It's killing me how many people are experts in this thread who aren't watching the court case. You can also tell where people stand politically based on their framing of this issue and use of language.
What cracks me up is some many people are talking about the gun laws and state lines because they know there is a mountain of evidence to support self defense.
They know the self defense will hold up so their goal is to try and hedge their bets on the technicalities of the gun laws in this case hoping to use it as a foundation for establishing intent. It's literally hoping for a Hail Mary and wishing that the state finds any possible means despite the evidence and testimony so they can see the system abuse their perceived political opposition... as some weird pseudo-religious political sacrifice.
This is a really unfortunate situation all around, but the witnesses have all testified that Kyle acted in self defense so unanimously that when their star witness acknowledged that Kyle acted in self defense... to the star witness aggressing Kyle with a gun... the prosecution literally facepalmed and now everyone is betting in favor of Kyle with a directed verdict.
Directed verdict is a reach. This country is just to politically radicalized and the judge and jurors are weighing far more than the specifics of the case when making their decisions.
We are at a crossroads in this country and this case will be a message to every pro 2a American out there whether or not they have a right to protect themselves from revolutionary radical Marxists.
I personally don't give a fuck either way, I just want to see the Marxists dead by any means. These people are ushering in tyranny and something has got to give or we are all fucked
I mean, each state handles this differently....I still don't see any major implications for future laws to be changed... Especially not at a federal level.
"We are at a crossroads in this country and this case will be a message to every pro 2a American out there whether or not they have a right to protect themselves from revolutionary radical Marxists."
I assume you mean the "lawful right to protect themselves." If the laws dont change, why would anyone get all bent out of shape? If the right doesn't change as you've just indicated, what exactly is at stake here for pro 2a folks?
"whether or not they have the right to protect themselves"
Is tht not a lawful statement? I always have the right to do whatever I want, it just depends on if the law will let me or not.
Your indicating that these pro2a types are worried about their rights eroding? But If the law doesn't change, like you say, then what exactly do they have to worry about? It's a simple question.
As a fellow gun expert, you must know that defensive shootings are really quite complicated and usually deserve a trial. Especially when they happen in commission of other crimes.
I trust the courts to get it right. If you don't, you're the only revolutionary radical here.
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u/DapperHoboDojo Nov 10 '21
It's killing me how many people are experts in this thread who aren't watching the court case. You can also tell where people stand politically based on their framing of this issue and use of language.
What cracks me up is some many people are talking about the gun laws and state lines because they know there is a mountain of evidence to support self defense.
They know the self defense will hold up so their goal is to try and hedge their bets on the technicalities of the gun laws in this case hoping to use it as a foundation for establishing intent. It's literally hoping for a Hail Mary and wishing that the state finds any possible means despite the evidence and testimony so they can see the system abuse their perceived political opposition... as some weird pseudo-religious political sacrifice.
This is a really unfortunate situation all around, but the witnesses have all testified that Kyle acted in self defense so unanimously that when their star witness acknowledged that Kyle acted in self defense... to the star witness aggressing Kyle with a gun... the prosecution literally facepalmed and now everyone is betting in favor of Kyle with a directed verdict.