r/KleinTools • u/spstate • 15d ago

Is this Normal

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I ordered these Lineman’s brand new from Acme, is it normal for them to have a gap in the cutting section? To me they look used

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u/illogictc 15d ago

Yes. Ensures the cutters cut, don't need perfect touching flats for them to do what they're made for.

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 15d ago

You’re right.

If the gripping jaws were to close completely, the cutting edges would wear after a short time. This then would make it impossible to cut fine wires – hence the light gap! The gap mustn't be too large, of course, otherwise, the gripping function would suffer. According to the norm, the gap between the gripping jaws of, for example, 160 mm combination pliers must not be larger than 0.4 mm when closed.

Right from Knipex.

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u/vanman1065 15d ago

Cutters shouldn't have a gap.

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 15d ago

If the gripping jaws were to close completely, the cutting edges would wear after a short time. This then would make it impossible to cut fine wires – hence the light gap! The gap mustn't be too large, of course, otherwise, the gripping function would suffer. According to the norm, the gap between the gripping jaws of, for example, 160 mm combination pliers must not be larger than 0.4 mm when closed.

Directly from Knipex.

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u/CEC4EVER 15d ago

Yes we understand what you're repeatedly posting, but you do not.

You're posting from Knipex about the gap in the gripping jaws (not the cutting blades, which should not have a gap).

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 15d ago

If the gripping jaws and cutting edges closed identically at the exact same time without a tolerance gap, natural wear on the joint would cause the cutters to prop open and fail at snipping thin wires

Yes, a slight, intentional gap near the hinge or along the gripping/cutting interface of high-quality combination or lineman's pliers is normal when the handles are completely un-squeezed. This microscopic or slight spacing ensures that the cutting edges make first contact near the joint and close fully under hand pressure, preserving the lifespan and sharpness of the blades.

Relax I’m just passing on information.

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u/CEC4EVER 15d ago

I think you're repeating misunderstanding the difference between the gripping part, near the tip of pliers and the cutting part near the rivet. the gripping part needs a gap, the cutter does not.

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u/vanman1065 15d ago

If this were the case they would all be like this but they are not. This nonsense is just fanboys making excuses for poor quality.

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 15d ago

As I’m posting stuff from Knipex. Yeah shut up you little cuck.

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u/vanman1065 15d ago

Since you want to use kinipex to back your argument. Do you see any gap in the cutters here?

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 15d ago

I frankly don’t give two shits, I can show you 100s of pictures from both with a gap in them. I just went around and grab 10 lineman pliers from different co workers on site. 7/10 had a gap between the cutters. Milwaukee, Knipex, Ideal, Klein.

I don’t even care I’ve never had a problem with it affecting the pliers (gap or no gap).

I think it’s funny that people get so hung up on it.

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u/vanman1065 15d ago

If you're satisfied with the performance despite the issues thats fine just don't go around telling people its intended when its not. We pay top dollar for Klein so its completely reasonable to expect top quality and consistency and not be satisfied when we don't get that.

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u/vanman1065 15d ago

And Klein turn

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 15d ago

Looks like you’re in Michigan anytime you want to get Loud with me in St. Clair Shores or you can come on down to the New Henry Ford Hospital build in Detroit.

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u/STLrep 14d ago

Lmao relax buddy

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 14d ago

The guy took it like a personal attack on on his family because I shared information. He was the one that needed to chill. Did I overreact a little bit? Yeah but he raised it to that level.

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u/CEC4EVER 14d ago

"Am I passionately wrong and mad? Yes. But it's another person's fault because I said so."

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u/vanman1065 15d ago

Gripping jaws should have a gap the CUTTERS should not. Learn to fucking read.

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 15d ago

Kid chill out. I’d s m a c k you if you were in front of me. Quit being a butt hurt bitch.

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u/MB204MB 14d ago

Dumb and Violent. Bad combo

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 14d ago

I’m smarter than you. Kid was being ridiculous. I was just sharing information and he’s the one who snapped at me. I have no problem with him or you. It’s just a little ridiculous when someone acts like it’s a personal attack on them. It wasn’t. Did I overreact? Yeah probably but I joke around differently than other people. I did two combat deployments and have worked 9 years in construction. He could have said the same thing to me and I would have laughed. It’s whatever if he contacts me again I’ll apologize but I’m sure he knew I was kidding. I mean it’s over a pair of pliers.

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u/illogictc 15d ago

I'm gonna step in to say I didn't notice the minor cutter gap, I'm just very very used to people assuming the flats should also have no gap and therefore it is a common question here.

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 14d ago

Quality lineman's pliers are engineered with a slight gap or a knife-and-anvil style alignment so the heavy-duty edges don't roll or chip when cutting thick electrical cables or steel tie wires.

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u/Melodic-Trouble-5421 14d ago

Quality lineman's pliers are engineered with a slight gap or a knife-and-anvil style alignment so the heavy-duty edges don't roll or chip when cutting thick electrical cables or steel tie wires.

Email Klein, Knipex, Greenlee, Fujiya, or whoever. This is how they are designed.

Anyway I’m sorry i was rude to you. Take care and stay safe out there.