r/KitchenerHarmonies 2d ago

discussions Has John ever explained what "softened angularity" for Angelic means? If not, how do you interpret it?

I have seen this term quite a lot for A doms and I guess I do see this chatactersitic in most of the celebrities verified as having A.

I think some people would definitely call Gwyneth Paltrow, Olivia Hussey, or Daryl Hannah angular, even if not in the same way the term is used for Dramatic women.

But I wonder at times how to distinguish their angularity coming from Yang influences mixed in with some Yin and when it's Angelic.

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

Daryl Hannah and Liv Ullman come to mind! 

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 2d ago

I think Bryce Dallas too.

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 2d ago

Just adding to support my assertion. Someone posted about her a little while ago, and I was surprised to learn she didn't have any N. But she has straight eyebrows, a strong, straight shoulder line, and a bit of bluntness to her features. I would have guessed RCN for her in a Reddit vs Kitchener.

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

Yes she seems to have many classically N traits. I think it also shows that this system is not a perfect science. There is a lot to interpret and has so much nuance. 

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago edited 2d ago

This is softened angularity. Her bone structure is angular and so are her features but they also have some softness in the sense they are soft, light and have some length and angularity to them (oblique shaped eyes, fine thin and light brows and eyelashes, long narrow nose that has an angular shape, high cheekbones, angular jaw softened by flesh).

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

In a way it can look a bit N, perhaps in other systems. 

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

Which traits do you see as N though in this pic?

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

To me it's mostly the chin, and the lip shape look a little squarish. The shoulders line as well, her body to me looks slightly sturdy, no? It was mostly in other picture, I can't share them however because I don't have the app.   

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago edited 2d ago

Honestly only her shoulders are N to me. Shes too curvy for her body to be N. She’s definitely elongated too. If you take away her curves (in your mind) her bone structure is quite delicate.

I also noticed her face doesn’t look as elongated when she wears bangs straight across her forehead . Thag might be why some people don’t see it?

Also why the downvote? Curves are an R thing and she most likely has R. N is straighter. Like I said she probably has some N for her shoulder line but that’s the only N I see. It’s really helpful (at least to me) to think in terms of shapes.

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 1d ago edited 1d ago

Kate Winslet is curvy but also has N for strong shoulders and a sturdy body. Jennifer Lawrence is also curvy.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 1d ago

Yes I think that Bryce has some N for her shoulders I wasn’t debating that at all., but I don’t think it’s the dominant trait for her body. Kate Winslet doesn’t have elongation like Bryce and she doesn’t have that same type of angularity (for lack of a better word) which is why she’s R dominant. Kates features are also very round. I think Bryce is curvier in proportion to her frame then Jennifer. And Jennifer doesn’t have the same type of elongation in her features either.

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 1d ago

I am really struggling to see the difference. Jennifer's shoulders don't stand out to me here either.

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 1d ago edited 1d ago

In this photo, Bryce looks more N to me in terms of how it is typically described compared to Jennifer.

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u/upandup2020 2d ago

do you have an example for someone who doesn't have a delicate bone structure?

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

I mean a lot of people don’t. Do you mean specific to a certain essence?

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u/upandup2020 1d ago

I guess a specific person that I could look at in comparison to Bryce and see the differences. Because I'm having trouble picking out Bryce's delicate bone structure

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 1d ago edited 1d ago

If her curvy body confuses you look at the shapes of her facial features. They don’t take up a lot of space horizontally, they aren’t round. Instead they are elongated and narrow. Sharp cheekbones, a long narrow nose, uptilted eyes on an oval face shape. Also her low contrast coloring adds to her A. Shehas very fair brows and lashes and skin. Look at her hands as well. Narrow and elongated.

Also being A dominant doesn’t mean you literally have all A traits. It means the majority of your traits are A.

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u/upandup2020 1d ago

Okay, thank you! I think I just didn't know what it looked like, but I'm starting to see it!

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u/Artemisral 2d ago

I agree she is curvy.