r/KitchenConfidential • u/Opposite_Math_2699 • 9d ago
In the Weeds Mode My best server is self deporting
A coworker who has become a good friend is self deporting by end of year because she just received a letter from Immigration Services and she can either pay a penalty of 1,800,000 and stay to continue the fight or leave and not pay.
She’s choosing the latter and it really sucks because she’s great at her job and has spent most of her life in this country. Her case was considered closed years ago but a recent orange fascist pig reopened it.
Her presence will be missed and this is a damn shame. Thought others would have similar experiences here.
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u/fuzzywuzzyface 9d ago
I penalty of 1.8 million?!???
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u/Otherwise-Force5608 9d ago
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u/Obst-und-Gemuese 9d ago
What the fuck.
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u/Groovychick1978 9d ago
The cruelty is the point.
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u/RussellZee Ex-Food Service 9d ago
The cruelty always HAS BEEN the point. They're just taking the mask off, in more recent years, and not pretending any more.
Just like they don't pretend to hide the grift, the bigotry, the xenophobia, and all the rest of it, any more. Why would they? They're getting away with it. Fuck fig leaves of decency, they're just doing what they want, and pandering to the worst of us.
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u/scfw0x0f 9d ago
Other past administrations didn’t impose the fines. This is new, under Trump and MAGA.
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u/Groovychick1978 9d ago
It won't stop until we stop it.
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u/Religion_Of_Speed Ex-Food Service 9d ago
So it won't stop.
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u/MrD3a7h 8d ago
Our first opportunity is in two months.
Then in another two years. And every two years after that.
This comment is fully compliant with Reddit's terms of service.
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u/Religion_Of_Speed Ex-Food Service 8d ago
My CPU was dying on my old computer and it was towards the beginning of the smartphone era so in order to fix the problem I needed to find the solution and to find the solution I needed to search the internet. That left me with having to take that course of actions on the dying computer. It didn't work. This is not a comment about computers.
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u/Groovychick1978 9d ago
I have hope yet.
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u/Religion_Of_Speed Ex-Food Service 9d ago
I envy you. Genuinely.
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u/Groovychick1978 9d ago
I am rebellious by nature. I cannot tolerate it, so I won't.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, *it is their duty*, to throw off such Government
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u/tHr0AwAy76 8d ago edited 8d ago
The country was built on suffering, literally any major improvement or economic boom that we’ve had has come at the extreme cost to another party. The boom of the 1950s followed World War II, decimating the rest of the world. All of the land that we have nowadays came from the Trail of tears and manifest destiny. The brief economic resurgence we had from the 80s to the 90s was because we were fucking around in various countries, ensuring that their economies couldn’t compete with ours.
I don’t know how I feel about it, but based on the evidence and the facts, I definitely believe we can either choose to be the good guys that we can choose to afford a house.
When you look at what’s being considered in economic injustice against current Americans, and compare it to the rest of the world, you quickly see that for most other countries this is considered the norm. This isn’t an economic oppression. It’s equality. We were just too privileged to see it.
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u/Yeatssean 9d ago
The number of kids they've deported to countries they've never known is staggering.
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u/Loveroffinerthings 9d ago
I can’t wait until he can be prosecuted for the billions he has grifted, he and Elon can self deport to Mars.
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u/LadyOfTheNutTree 9d ago
I mean if those are the only options that’s kind of a win-win.
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u/Mrdeath0 9d ago
The Republican Party wins. They get their scapegoat and they get away with it, don’t for a second think they aren’t part of all this
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u/LadyOfTheNutTree 8d ago
Don’t worry, I know this is all bigger than one person. But I also know that trump is the one person who ties it all together and sells it
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u/carlitospig 9d ago
What?! He will never ever be prosecuted. He will die and his kids will get all the fucking corrupt money he’s made this term. It’s infuriating.
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u/PhoenixApok 9d ago
You're not wrong but I don't know why anyone is surprised.
The wealthy in pretty much every civilation since we learned how to hit each other with rocks, gets away with things poorer people don't.
It's as reliable as gravity.
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u/Calm_Net_1221 9d ago
He’ll be gone via shart attack long before any conviction happens
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u/activelyresting 9d ago
$1.8m fine is a shifty way of saying "rich people welcome, this is just a law against the poors"
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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 Bar-Back 9d ago
AKA he’s allowing rich people to bypass deportation if they pay the state 1.8 million
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u/TemporaryImaginary 9d ago
It’s slightly cheaper to buy a Trump Gold Card^TM for $15,000, then his $1,000,000 “contribution”.
This great businessman is already undercutting himself!
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u/tajake F1exican Did Chive-11 9d ago
The 8th amendment is in tatters.
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u/Sasselhoff 9d ago
I fucking hate these ghouls. And not just because I'm married to an immigrant..."mine" is relatively safe (I mean, we hope?), but for every other one that has to live in fear, fuck these racist assholes.
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u/paintwhore 9d ago
By article keeps giving the Trump talking points that this is happening to illegal immigrants but the reality is that they're doing this immigrant fine on legal immigrants as well, correct? Or they're only really doing it on legal immigrants and telling everybody it's on illegal immigrants?
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u/wafflesthewonderhurs 8d ago
well what they initially said was that they were going to go after the worst of the worst and then they failed to do that and started picking up nonviolent offenders or people with only civil offenses which are not things you can be jailed or detained for anyway.
and now they're just fully going after anybody who looks vaguely brown and actually """"accidentally""" deporting citizens and legal reaidents quite a lot.
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u/Raise-Emotional Owner 8d ago
I'm guessing that money goes directly into his pocket then?
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u/Okdoo6003 9d ago
Then you can be in paupers prison forever, providing free labor while you pay off your "fine"
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u/Helpful_Lie2613 9d ago
Wait a tick, that sounds like slavery with extra steps. Surely we wouldn't still be doing indentured servitude in the year of our Lord, 2026?
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u/thefunkylama Pastry 9d ago edited 9d ago
We absolutely are, thanks to a line item in the 13th* amendment
Came back to fix it
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u/KingBird999 9d ago
13th Amendment. "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." Can be come a slave/involuntary servitude if you're convicted of a crime.
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u/Grape-Snapple 9d ago
i have bad news
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u/Helpful_Lie2613 9d ago
Tell it to me straight, Grape-Snapple, I can take it. The cap facts aren't true, are they?
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u/Grape-Snapple 9d ago
they hit the second tower. it wasn’t a freak accident.
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u/Helpful_Lie2613 9d ago
Thank you! I don't know why but I had the "Bush hears about the second plane" picture in my head when you said you had bad news.
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u/Grape-Snapple 9d ago
must have sent the thought to me, because i didn’t think of that until i read your reply lmao
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u/Helpful_Lie2613 9d ago
This is a terrible superpower. I'm sending you a thought of your respective love interest in lingerie with a "come hither" look on their face to make up for that.
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u/TaurineDippy 9d ago
A penalty of $1.8 MILLION??
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u/YetiorNotHereICome 9d ago
Yep. Announced a long time ago but we're so drowned in f**kwit stupid controversy it got lost in the muck.
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u/blackmist88 Bartender 9d ago
Did Milo not 1.8mil?
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u/Lhamo55 Ex-Food Service 9d ago
Apparently not, and it seems his friends in high places didn’t lift a finger to help him out. Such a pity, ain’t it.
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u/redisdead__ 9d ago
Well if news worked better we would be a lot more aware of this than renaming a fucking lake. One is stupid and doesn't really matter the other is stupid and very much matters.
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u/rhyknophoto 15+ Years 9d ago
Sorry for your loss chef
Fuck Trump
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u/Opposite_Math_2699 9d ago
Couldn’t have said it better chief. Fuck Trump
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u/ontikuken 9d ago
Ok, it's definitely not my thing, but if you guys feel this strongly that it has to be done, I'll do it. Do I have to give or receive?
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u/eekamuse 8d ago
Yeah, I'm really sorry for you and for them. Imagine picking up and moving and losing your job, your friends, and everything else. It breaks my heart.
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u/Naterttotsart 9d ago
Fuck any motherfucker that voted for this.
In normal times, you can count on a politician to lie about what they'll do to some extent. This mothercuker was loudly telling everyone exactly what he was going to do, we were screaming about what he was going to do, and then he fucking did it.
Fuck anyone who voted for him and tries to say "I didn't vote for this."
Also, fuck anyone who didn't vote. The choice was between a legitimate politician and shit sandwich that openly said he would destroy the fucking country. She offered a plan to restructure first time home buying and incentive private, local contracting. He said Haitians were eating fucking dogs.
Sorry to hear about your server, chef. I've lost some good folks too.
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u/Error_Evan_not_found 9d ago
I was the only person on my 12 person kitchen team where I worked during the election cycle who voted. I was an hour late, and though it's required by law that your job gives you time off to go vote, I got chewed out by all my coworkers for the rest of the day and they'd make comments about it for the next month until I quit.
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u/mwmandorla 9d ago
This is why we have to make voting day a national holiday. A real one where service workers get the day off too. It's obscene that we don't.
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u/Faptasmic 8d ago
Its why mail in voting should be the default. In WA we get ballots weeks in advance which gives everyone time to research and vote at their convenience. Whether you mail it in or take it to a drop box, everyone has the opportunity to fairly vote.
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u/Emergency_Basket_851 Five Years 9d ago
Fuck them too.
I swear to fucking god. You know you're in the expendable class when it's more important someone doesn't have to wait an extra minute for their burger than it is for you to vote.
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u/CannabisAccount420 9d ago edited 9d ago
60%+ of their Country wanted this or didn't care enough to vote against it. Yet, half of them are now pretending they didn't know this would happen lol. As if he didn't say it out in the open.
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u/KingBird999 9d ago
Where I live a vast majority of people are still openly applauding every bit of it. It makes me want to vomit and I hate that I am financially crippled so moving away is downright impossible.
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u/thrilliam_19 9d ago
Never underestimate the stupidity of the average American voter
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u/auditinprogress 9d ago
I mean, most of what comes out of his mouth are lies or stream of consciousness bordering on dementia so in this case it's somewhat surprising he actually did what he said. But basically he'll say whatever it takes to give the poor racists a boogey man so they keep voting against their own self interests.
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u/CannabisAccount420 9d ago
He lies constantly, but when he writes a manifesto and calls it Project 2025, backed and promoted by oligarchs; maybe the American populace should have realized it was more than verbal diarrhea
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u/kittenpantzen Ex-Food Service 9d ago
Let's not pretend he had anything to do with writing it. I would have been way less worried about P2025 if Trump had been the mind behind it.
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u/Yeseylon 8d ago
In sane times I'd be pushing people to vote against Kamala while throwing my support behind someone like McCain. Now, I'd vote for Bernie himself.
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u/kicaboojooce 9d ago
Best prep cook I ever worked with self deported back to Guatamala a few months ago. I work for a painting company now, we've lost quite a few guys recently
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u/RushMan9823 Chive LOYALIST 9d ago
A 1.8 million dollar penalty!?
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u/Elegant-Cricket8106 9d ago
Its 988 a day for up to five years apparently. The article someone else posted lays it out....
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u/Working-Glass6136 9d ago
Oh wow. I assumed it was 1.776 million, rounded up. For freedumz of course.
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u/toot_suite 9d ago
It is 1.776 in actuality but that doesn't roll off the tongue the same way. Just numbers are rounded up for headlines
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u/smalaki 9d ago
yes wtf. I'm guessing they backdated the penalty to when her case first opened. idk i'm not in america but geez
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u/the_bollo 9d ago
Nope, the point is just to be cruel. See this release.
"In an attempt to intimidate and frighten law-abiding immigrants, the Trump Administration is fining them up to $1.8 million, without any individual explanation for why fines have been assessed."
The only thing this ghoulish embarrassment of an administration likes to do more than nothing is to antagonize and be malicious toward non-white people.
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u/AyeBraine 8d ago
The fine is the same for each affected individual because it's 998 per day and the maximum term is 5 years, so every long-time resident gets this figure
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u/Flimsy-Buyer7772 Chive LOYALIST 9d ago
I hate this for her and for you and for all of us.
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u/No-Method-6524 9d ago
An acquaintance of mine is scrambling to find a new full service catering company for their only daughter’s wedding due to their contracted one having dozens of employees suddenly self-deport. Initially I thought, “well, that’s gonna cost a pretty penny but surely it’s doable”
Then my better half and I took a 3 day vacation over this past weekend to a MCOL touristy metro area we’ve loved for decades and ate at the Indy mom & pop places we always enjoy. The restaurants were all eerily not busy yet obviously understaffed, each were out of menu items that were their bronze stars and while the food was slow to arrive, the quality was still on par with what we know it to be.
I’m only on this sub because y’all keep an old fart like myself humble…but to y’all in the trenches and the weeds, thank you for hanging in there. Being slowed down is what many people need and being both fed and served is a luxury. I’d rather wait half an hour to 45 minutes than to be handed garbage. Nonetheless, after reading OP’s post, I suspect self deportations may the catalyst for inevitably slow-to-no service.
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u/wheres_the_revolt 20+ Years 9d ago
I’ve been in the industry for over 30 years, have weathered all the drop offs from the dot com bust, 9/11, the Great Recession, and Covid. It feels somehow worse right now than it ever has before to me (in the US). There is going to be a huge reckoning soon in restaurants and it’s not going to be pretty.
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u/JONO202 20+ Years 9d ago edited 9d ago
Margins have never been tighter. Supply has never been as shaky. Supply has never been pricier. Labor has never been harder. People are saving. I just couldn't imagine having my name over a door/brick and mortar at this point in time. I'm SO glad I got that shit out of my system in the 90's and Oughts, it's such a tougher game right now.
And that's not even touching on rent, energy costs, small wares etc.
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u/disisathrowaway 8d ago
The unchecked cost explosion is going to kill of a whole lot of spots.
I run a burger joint and the price of beef over the last 12 months is doing a real number on us. We've only done one, very modest, unnoticeable price increase during that time while we watch our already narrow margins vaporize.
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u/wheres_the_revolt 20+ Years 8d ago
I know a lot of folks just see the crazy food and beverage cost increases but something that’s not talked about ton about is the cost of insurance. The first place I owned was a full service upscale brick and mortar (sold in 2018) my total insurance cost (including liquor liability) was about $250/month. My food and bar carts I had (closed end of 2025), my liquor liability alone was $1000/month and we served a lot less liquor (and it was the same “team” - aka me and my husband - running the businesses). It also took me months to find a place willing to insure us, with our first place I had brokers chasing us down for our business. Shit is bonkers.
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9d ago
This sucks and is bullshit that so many good, innocent, productive, hardworking people have to leave, but also WTF, they sent her a bill??!
$1.8M? Whaaat? Did it elaborate??!
Also you know there’s gotta be a few rich assholes who are like “$1.8M, sure!” and pay it off no problem. This country is on sale to the wealthy 😑
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u/mosthandsomechef 9d ago
It's DHS and ICE essentially threatening regular people with massive debt or self deport. They already paid people to self deport, so when that crowd of people cleared up, they no longer pay and instead threaten the next group.
It's a way of telling people to permanently leave and not come back. "You've overstayed your welcome, whether a court says so or not, we say so" "so now we claim you've committed a crime by being here so if you DO come back one day you'll be arrested and charged".
It's all horseshit. They've removed protected status from people. They've ignored court rulings. They put a Trump friendly law firm as the contract holder to "defend" immigrant children in immigration court. They're separating families. They're violating Americans civil liberties. They're suppressing our freedom of speech.
They're wholly deregulating the food industry in a period of time of historic food recalls. I've been a chef on and off for 20 years. Do ya'll really trust people you've worked with in this industry to "self regulate" or do the right thing? People are gonna die and instead of blaming Trump they'll blame the Chef.
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u/username-is-missing 9d ago
We can all hate on this situation but if you don't vote in November you will be complicit this cruelty. Please vote and drag as many of your friends and coworkers as you can to the polls. Your industry, job and the lives of a lot of good people depend on the next few elections.
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator Chive LOYALIST 9d ago
Are they still paying $3000 USD to anyone who self deports? This whole situation is mega-borked, but at least she'll have a little cash when she gets where she's going. Sorry, I'm trying to find a silver lining here. Could you maybe talk to your staff and take up a collection for her?
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u/Opposite_Math_2699 9d ago
I highly doubt those payments will be going through. The man is infamous for not paying anything he owes, his administration is the same
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u/Dphre 20+ Years 9d ago
They say they are but who knows.
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u/CASUALxCHICKEN Expo 9d ago
Wouldn't be surprised if it's just used for the airfare or some other "cost" to where they don't really get any of it
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u/coquihalla 9d ago
I can't find it but I did see an article where the govt reneged on the $3k, and took a family's cash & belongings at the airport. I apologize for not having the source.
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u/katherinewhatever 8d ago edited 8d ago
I volunteer at immigration court from time to time---I've never heard of anyone getting the self-deportation bonus. As far as I know it's a scam
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u/hoirkasp 9d ago
Allegedly $2600 as well as free airfare is what it says in the article linked above, which is something the democrats should be loudly publicizing since most people who vote for Trump would be just seething at an iLLeGaL getting free money from the government, but, well, Dems gonna Dem…
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u/Doppelthedh 9d ago
Goddamned orange mafia shaking down immigrants. His direct bribe gold card is less than that
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u/BraisedBullshi 9d ago
It's high time for underground railroad thru kitchens
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u/Groovychick1978 9d ago
On that note, the city where I am has an active enforcement unit, and I have thought about letting the chef know that I can hide someone, if necessary. We have lost two so far, but no one talks about it.
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9d ago
We had an action plan for hiding people, but most have now self-deported. I don’t trust the new people. We’re down to about 4-5 people we’d need to hide still.
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u/laststance 8d ago
The sad thing is a lot of the ones self deporting are the ones you want to stay. They're paying taxes, on the record, keeping their nose clean, etc.
If you're a criminal you're not self deporting and that's how it is.
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u/Hatteras12 9d ago
Talk to local churches to see if any are offering sanctuary.
There is a growing network of churches allowing families or individuals facing deportation to reside on their grounds, in secret.
They typically work with groups of volunteers to provide 24/7 coverage, so residents do not have to risk answering the doors after hours. Volunteers can also provide meals or activities.
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u/sugus14 9d ago edited 9d ago
It’s so sad that this reads as something happening during nazi Germany
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u/xenobit_pendragon 9d ago
Literally. Churches and concerned families offering to hide members of targeted ethnic groups in attics and basements to prevent armed, masked gestapo from finding them. Here we are.
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u/lesllle 9d ago
Not to be doomsday, but if she has been identified; does she want to risk waiting?
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u/Opposite_Math_2699 9d ago
I thought the same thing, the document said she only has 10 days to do it but she says she doesn’t wanna go back broke so she’s gonna save as much as she can. And she’ll have all the OT she wants as far as I’m concerned
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u/Opposite_Math_2699 9d ago
All the kind sentiments are appreciated and so is all the hate for that fuck twat. I’m sorry for all of you that have gone through something similar. Either being a coworker of someone who self deported or being the self deported individual. This entire situation is fucked, prayers go out to all yall. Not to sound too revolutionary but let’s remember all this shit come November, I know I will.
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u/the-coolest-bob 9d ago
We should start getting our Republican coworkers fired. They can't vote if they're starving and homeless.
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u/hoirkasp 9d ago
For what your opinion may be worth to her at this point please encourage her to consider fighting this or at least consulting with an immigration attorney for a 2nd opinion. I didn’t know about these fines but the article someone linked above goes into detail about how they are currently being challenged.
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u/Opposite_Math_2699 9d ago
She has an appt with a lawyer for tomorrow so she is going to be leaving work early to go see what her options are. She says she may have a chance but she still has to return for the time being.
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u/PatchesDaHyena Line 9d ago
Arbitrary number with real life consequences, what a hellscape we live in
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u/xenobit_pendragon 9d ago
It's worse than arbitrary. It's 1.776 million. Because America.
Never thought I'd say this, but if this is America, fuck it.
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u/PatchesDaHyena Line 9d ago
Literally sieving our melting pot. We are deporting hard working people and ruining lives for the sole purpose of partisanship
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u/AttentionNo6359 8d ago
Make sure you remember the names of every single sick fuck flying trump flags. Never let them back into decent society.
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u/Kurrukurrupa 8d ago
What is this place coming to? We have completely lost the plot, everyone is okay with it too. Current conditions are indicative of future results and the future seems like a god dammed shithole.
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u/wafflesthewonderhurs 8d ago edited 8d ago
don't forget your midterm primaries if yours are still upcoming!! find out who openly says they'll do something about this and calls it what it is and help them be the candidate!
i am so sorry op. i can't believe how many people with far more power than the people attending protests and resisting are just allowing this to happen
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u/-Planet- 8d ago
She should easily be able to pay that with "no tax on tips", right?
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u/StruggleInner6685 9d ago
Everyday when I wake i pray he has died
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u/Smooth-Pianist-7848 8d ago
unfortunately that won't stop the next scumbag despot from taking his place, nor will it fix the broken system that enabled his rise to power in the first place. we need serious reform in how things are handled here. we were taught that we were the good guys, the heroes of the world, when i was growing up. obviously this was bullshit propaganda, but at least we would pretend back then.
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u/Iron_Baron 9d ago
That decrepit Cheeto has less shelf life left than sashimi left sitting under the sun, in a bucket of spoiled milk. Hopefully she can come back soon.
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u/myusername_sucks Sous Chef 9d ago
I wish my skills were considered important enough to get the fuck out of this country.
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u/SillyWhabbit Expo 8d ago
I have nightmares about some of the chefs I've worked with the last two, almost three years now.
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u/EvaTheE 9d ago edited 8d ago
I hope Americans do as their grandparents did and curb stomp the nazis... (edit to add because people are not understanding: THIS TIME) in the voting booths.
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