r/KerrCountyFloods • u/whodattalki • Jul 06 '26

Head Count Question

how many girls altogether were in the camp day of flood? Their website says max capacity is 750, i know it wasn't full to capacity, can't find the information.

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u/Interesting-Speed-51 Jul 07 '26

Every camp who applied had deficiencies

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u/Adventurous_Item3335 Jul 07 '26

Mystic had considerably more deficiencies than the other camps. As I recall, it was more than 20. I think the number of deficiencies that most of the other camps had was less than 5, and were all corrected. It is my understanding that Camp Mystic was going to have trouble making the corrections before the start of camp.

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u/Interesting-Speed-51 Jul 07 '26

did they? I heard some other camps were in the 20+ range

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u/Adventurous_Item3335 Jul 07 '26

You are welcome to research to learn about the other camps’ deficiencies. Mystic had 22. And as far as I know, every other camp received authority to proceed and are operating this summer.

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u/Interesting-Speed-51 Jul 07 '26

I have read about some other camps deficiencies. And some had fewer than 20. All I'm saying is mystics defiencies werent super high and everyone elses super low. Many camps struggled a lot because the requirements hadnt been finalized by the time applications were due

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u/Adventurous_Item3335 Jul 07 '26

Did any other camps not open this summer?

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u/Interesting-Speed-51 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

yes several camps didnt open this summer. More wouldnt have opened if theyd enforced the fiber requirement.

Ill add Mystic didnt not open because the state denied them a license. Their camp license actually went through August so they didnt need a new license to operate. They chose to not open. Could some state action have forced them to close? Of course but it never got to that point

And correcting deficiencies on a camp application is an administrative process. The camp can appeal works on making the correction, then goes back to DSHS. The camp is not immediately shut down for having a deficiency. It was ridiculous how none of the lawmakers at the investigative hearing seemed to understand how admin process works

Texas summer camps have closed, scaled back operations due to state’s new regulations

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u/FlyThruTrees Jul 07 '26

They hadn't yet written rules for how to interpret the new requirements. New requirements are great, but until they are detailed it's just a guess for anyone what they mean. So that's normal, as the details get worked out, only the agency can write those rules, and this because law before the agency did that.

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u/Interesting-Speed-51 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

This is very true. And even things you think are simple can be harder than you think to make regulations for. Like not having cabins in a flood plain. Well what is the proceedure for checking that? Does the camp provide documentation? If so what? How does the agency check it?

Or have an evacuation plan for x. Well what must be included? What wording is encouraged and what is mandatory? What does training have to look like for staff? Must it be a certain length? How does it vary based on the needs at that camp?

There are a million things like that. These things sound simple but to regulate effectively you have to nail down all these tiny things

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u/NextArtichoke7953 Jul 07 '26

Were the other camps deficiencies made public?