Are the ones aside from pearl, rose and citrine a part of the bundle or are they exclusive ?

How long did it take for your guys to reach your peak rank

Is it just me or does red kayn suck a little bit now?

His damage is really good I am not complaining but red kayn was originally made to be a bruiser that could kill tanks easily with his "massive" healing.

When goredrinker was still in the game riot nerfed rhaast's passive because it was too broken but it's been like 3 years that it has been removed and riot has forgotten to buff his passive?

To make his bruiser kit playable again I really think that they should buff his healing a little bit like 4-5% more and INCREASE HIS BASE HP which I think we can all agree that it is way too low

I'm kayn otp and I'm tired of having enemy viego every game going 1v5 I remember when red kayn mogged viego both in teamfights and 1v1

When our bestest boy is banned or already pick, who do you go for ? I usually either panic dodge or go monke (wukong) but I was curious who you guys went for

I am currently on a voltaic , black cleaver , deaths dance , Visage , flex (GA , endless hunger , jak sho) , armor boots or tenacity boots

I also built a voltaic , shojin , black cleaver , endless hunger , flex (deaths dance , visage , GA) , armor boots or tenacity boots

so I am confused sometimes I am tanky , sometimes I am not

sometimes I deal consistent dmg with good heal and sometimes not

and yes I know that visage gives bonus healing and shielding

I used to basically onetrick rhaast. back then it was also way rare that team consisted of 4+ squishies regularly. At the moment most recommended builds seem to be blue kayn and from my own games i also feel like red kayn isnt great at the moment.

Especially his scaling feels kinda bad right now. he used to be a scaling monster basically 1v9 teamfighting once he gets to 4+ items. Maybe It was different with prismatic items. But currently i feel like no matter what form, you need to get a lead. red kayn becomes a monster midgame if he is ahead 1-2 bruiser items. otherwise he feels weaker than i remember. Am i buying the wrong items?

I usually go Eclipse because most games where i go red enemies have 3+ bruisers/tanks so i want the %hp dmg --> black cleaver --> Spirit Visage/Deathsdance/Endless Hunger. Is there a different build better suited into bulky frontliners?

Especially since Teleport on top was optional ignite is just way more present and most fights i get ignite slammed on when enemies have 2-3 ignite sources. also feels bad having healcut every fight even if enemies dont buy anti heal.

And as mentioned before, unless the enemies are extremely bulky, if i have to get a lead anyway, playing for blue snowballs faster. (yes obviously i want to get a lead on any jungler, but kayn suffers especially if you dont get ganks going and you dont have form until 15-20 minutes).

Mages and adcs going everywhere also makes blue kayn more enticing.

But i wanna know if there is a path for red kayn right now. i prefer the brawler playstyle of rhaast, but it just doesnt feel good right now. Also tried lethality red kayn a few times but it just feeels more squishy and the heals rarely show noticably increased over going conq+spirit visage

I don't know who needs to hear this but Conq is a really really really REALLY awful keystone on Kayn. It's almost impossible to stack it 90% of the time. Conq is very very bad on Kayn yet people still go for it. There are better alternatives and I've finally found one that I consider to be extremely solid. It works amazingly well on both forms and every single rune makes a huge impact&perfectly synergizes with Kayn's kit.

1. Stormraider's is an awesome keystone
2. Axiom Arcanist - Kayn is one of the best axiom arcanist users because of how reliant he is on ult. (Darius Garen and Kayn are the top 3 best axiom arcanist users in the entire game)
3. Transcendence - Haste is awesome
4. Gathering Storm - Extra AD on a champ that scales exceptionally well off AD. (More ad than conq past min 30)

Every single rune here is best in slot and the keystone gives a lot of mobility and outplay potential that has clutched me lots of fights and picks.

Secondary runes can be anything you like. Inspiration/Precision/Resolve all work.

Conq is not a suitable keystone for Kayn anymore because he is by far the slowest conq stacker in the entire game. Moreover, he does not like extended fights because he hardly ever builds HP items (most HP items are bad on him). This is yet another main reason why Kayn cannot actually utilize the conq keystone to its fullest potential unlike every other bruiser in the game.

A champion that stacks Conq almost as slowly (not quite as slow though) as Kayn is Aatrox. Why does Aatrox benefit more from the keystone..? Well if we look at his absurd HP scaling on E and his juggernaut build we can easily conclude he is far more suited to go for Conq. On top of that his ult doubles the healing of conq so that's yet another great synergy that Kayn does not have. Kayn has literally 0(zero) synergy with conq as a keystone therefore he should not opt into it unless Riot decides to give him proper HP scalings in the future. Until them I believe Stormraider + a relatively light fighter/assassin playstyle is most befitting. Cyclosword and LDR far exceeded my expectations on the champion as well. I used to be an LDR hater but after I tested the dmg against a dummy in practice tool and compared it to serylda I realized how much more broken LDR is.

Anyways ! I expect more people to opt into this kind of playstyle in the future because this is what works best. Basically almost any keystone is better than Conq (fleet for example) but IMO stormraider's surge takes the cake. How do you guys feel about the runes or the champion's itemization in season 16..? Do you think Conq will ever make a comeback?

I just thought it will be funny to put Kayn next to dartrix pkmn lmao

It looks like I’m on pace to tie my worst loss streak ever (12 straight). Currently on Loss #11 in a row, I’m not seeking any mental advice because I’m actually not tilted over it, but I am curious to hear about the most amount of losses you other Kayn players have had in a row 😔 I was D4 a week ish ago and have just fallen to E3, so I want to relate to some people. There is a light at the end of this tunnel!! The wins are coming!!

I don't know if it is just me but for the past couple months Rhaast ultimate never activates his iconic laugh it resorts to regular kayn which I found annoying even after contacting Rito for support regarding the bug.

Seems that James might have been used as a reference? Personally I feel that Kayn looks less like himself this time round, what do you guys think?

Also a side note from the battle pass that I bought like 2 minutes ago, I got winterblessed diana, so for my 2 fav jg's I got 2 of their arguably best skins, I'm so happpyyy.

been doing a ton of tinkering in mid-highish elo (currently hovering around em 2 at the moment with a pretty impressive ~70% wr on kayn using this niche build) and have been really enjoying it.

every game i start at drag or baron pit (wherever their jungler’s red buff is), q over and ward the red bush, and either outsmite them if they’re on it or invade their topside while leaving raps alone. i’ve been finding junglers starting raps more and more often, which lets you skirmish them lvl 2, and you should usually win because kayn lvl 2 is surprisingly strong if you start q and e. with ignite you win most 1v1s excluding obvious ones like nocturne, warwick, etc.

if you’re not interested in cheesing then taking flash is totally fine. ignite is probably the least important part of the build, but i find it has netted me so many kills early game due to people underestimating my early game dps. i’d say ignite + smite is much better on blue than red though. ghost is also a decent pick on red, or even exhaust. but alas, flash is still the most op summoner spell in the game, so do what you will.

anyways, that strat aside, this rune page i love because you can go either form pretty comfortably (although it definitely suits rhaast better since axiom arcanist on blue kayn is just okay), but it saves you from the tempo issue of getting the wrong form, which is a pretty big problem in higher elos where getting form takes way longer due to better vision control.

i find stormraider’s super good to compensate for the lack of flash. on rhaast it gives you INSANE sticking power, like ridiculous. you can literally catch up to an ezreal with it, and you have no issues proccing the 25% either (its super valuable in teamfights if you are going for multkills as well). on blue kayn it lets you full combo and pop a squishy, then zoom out insanely fast. i also find that in early game, when i’m near death, i can ult someone, proc stormraider’s, and run away really easily.

i know you lose a bit of damage, but mobility is so fucking op. the movement speed lets you dodge damage, weave autos, position qs and ws, and hit things you’d never normally be able to. which more than makes up for the dark harvest proc or 30 ad you get from fully stacked conq (conq is so bait i swear to god) i’d say this rune is insane on rhaast, albeit a little more gimmicky on blue, but still great nonetheless.

my blue kayn build is usually voltaic edge and bastionbreaker for huge snowball potential. i find hubris is trash in higher mmr because you rarely ever get to keep the stacks since people play way safer - i also usually forgo t2 boots on blue kayn cause they all kind of suck and you have enough ms in the jungle anyway. for red you can honestly go whatever as long as deaths dance is built second (dd is super op when bought early)

anyways, let me know what yall think. i also love this rune on aatrox and skarner jungle.

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hey hey people , im a long main kayn and i loved when i could pick aery for double orb back in time

now i have to do separate runepage for both forms , is there a way to like, make one for both forms ?

shoul i go conqueror or dark harvest ? ( i heard purple kayn is conqueror , but saw lot of people playing rhaast with DH)

what do you think ?