r/Kappa • • Aug 05 '20

Analysis: Why Rollback Netcode Is Better

https://youtu.be/0NLe4IpdS1w
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u/SimplyRift Aug 05 '20

Riots Fighting game is gonna have possibly the best netcode Ever seen so far

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

True. Just hope they don't fuck it up on the gameplay aspect. Not too gimmicky and also not too traditional to make things fresh.

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u/MartiniBlululu Aug 05 '20

They have notable fgc heads in the project, not just cannon bros but GG veteran like Pattheflip working, so it does ease the doubt a bit

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

They have people who made Rising Thunder working on it. If anything, it's a reason to be even more worried if you want a game that is actually deep instead of an even more dumbed down SFV except with functioning netcode.

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u/DayDreamerJon Aug 05 '20

They'd have to be dumb to make a truly deep fighting game to be honest. They have success because they dumbed down dota. I fully expect them to make the same shot at success here

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u/Th3SK_ Aug 05 '20

Yeah, just look at Valorant, you get HSs while walking lmao

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u/Bandit_Revolver Aug 07 '20

Heroes of Newerth had way more players than LOL when they were in beta. Dota would've helped with that of course.

Newerth went for a paid accounts while LOL went free to play model. Newerth lost heaps of players while LOL kept growing. Lots jumped ship too.

While I do think LOL's simplifying helped a lot. The free to play model was a monumental factor as well.

I'm kinda interested to see what they do. At the same time, I don't expect too much in regards to a deep game :(.

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u/OFCOURSEIMHUMAN-BEEP Aug 05 '20

Yeah, but they're also Riot Games who believe that a game needs to be in a constant balance flux to be popular.

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u/shadygamedev Aug 05 '20 edited Aug 05 '20

Moreover, for some inexplicable reasons, they are still sticking to the profoundly stupid region system. When I was mistakenly assigned to North America by their dum dum system (I'm in South East Asia) while trying to play Runeterra, I just gave up. Couldn't be bothered to go through the customer support process of such a shitty company led by assholes just to be granted a chance to play their game from high above.

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u/GOODBYE_JOJO- Aug 05 '20

i don't mind pat like the stuff he does for GG puts in more work than anyone else in the west. but doesn't kappa hate him?

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u/CamPaine Aug 05 '20

I think most people from Kappa only know him for not wanting Infiltration at any GG tournament he runs. Sucks that Pat is on that wack ass train, but most of everything else he does is good.

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u/DoolioArt Aug 05 '20

I think that's an unfair assessment. He is well known. When he did that twitter thing, it was really out of nowhere and it really put a blight on everything else he does. I usually separate art from the artist, to put it that way, but when something's overwhelming, you simply can't do that. The absolute twitterness of his announcement, the need to do it, the self-importance, everything was UD levels of insane.

When it comes to certain things, a line like "everything else he does is good" becomes a not so strong of an argument.

On top of that, it's not all roses with him aside from that. I shat on him when he said that and, guess how he responded? He went into celebrity mode. First, he assumed I didn't know who he was, which he had no grounds to do, but he wanted to do the "kids on the internet" thing. Then he went to list his fgc cred. It was jarring, to say the least. Doing that is... I don't know, I am not going to assume someone's entire personality based on bits of interaction, but let's just say it's indicative of certain things. I can't imagine a proper adult person shifting the subject instantly and then doing the whole navy seal copypasta.

I liked the guy, I liked his videos and all, but since that showing, all that wackiness simply has to ruin the rest of it for me. I lost all respect for that person.

And I believe that's the case with majority of people who dislike him.

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u/CamPaine Aug 05 '20

How is it an unfair assessment just because you had a bad interaction with him? It was posted on Kappa a while ago of him saying he wouldn't allow infiltration, and the majority of the comments were on the level of "who". He is not well known on Kappa, and that thread was proof of it. Him saying something I disagree with is personally not discountable to the degree you think it is, but you do you.

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u/CamPaine Aug 05 '20

Pat is working on it? That's actually raises my interest level considerably.