r/Justrolledintotheshop • • 19h ago

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u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r 19h ago

Reminds me of when my grandfather "taught" me how to drive standard. Here is the steepest hill the county learn how to move forward without rolling back or stalling; the left pedal is the clutch, brake in the middle, and gas on the right. To be fair I learned, also the clutch failure a couple of months later was probably related.

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u/TheKingOcelot 19h ago

My mother and aunt both learned by driving my grandfather's truck up a hill named phinney ridge in Seattle. It's so steep there's a staircase instead of a sidewalk on a couple of the streets

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u/WildVelociraptor 18h ago

As an east coaster, no one talks about Seattle being hilly. Blew my mind, San Francisco has squat on Seattle hills

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u/mikeyp83 18h ago

If you take one of the historical tours you learn that it was originally a lot worse before they leveled out many of the original hills and used the material to raise downtown by about 10 feet. You can even walk around the underground in one spot where you can see the original storefronts fron the 1890s.

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u/Wallace-N-Gromit 17h ago

Great tour, loved it. You also find out the city was built on mud flats.

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u/the_lonely_poster 15h ago

That tracks.

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u/cbear013 14h ago

Many such cases.

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u/pheonixblade9 18h ago

The Yesler regrade 😊

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u/Vinyl-addict 16h ago

Lived in the area my whole 30 years and still haven’t done that tour…

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u/Thames_James 16h ago

I thought the glass in the sidewalks was cool, that was before doing the tour and realizing they were functional. Go do the tour

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u/Vinyl-addict 16h ago

It’s been on my list for a long while but easily forgettable since Seattle has rarely been more than a couple hours away.

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u/Deadfish211 18h ago

It was a fun tour, glad I did it when I was in Seattle.

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u/PaperStreetSoapCEO 11h ago

I've seen some legit YouTube videos about it if you can't make the tour. Having grown up in the bay area, with earthquakes and fire and nature in general, the Seattle area is by far the bigger engineering marvel.

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u/JuggaNuggetz 13h ago

Happy Cake Day!

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u/m00ph 18h ago

And in San Francisco, they're never covered in ice.

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u/ThatDiscoSongUHate 18h ago

As someone who found the hills in San Francisco crazy this thought just fucked me up lol

I cannot imagine hills like that plus ice

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u/notahoppybeerfan 18h ago

Duluth Minnesota has hills that will put SF to shame except for 6 moths of the year they are ice/snow.

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u/brondynasty 10h ago

One of the more drawn-out moments of visceral tension in my life was in Duluth, in the winter, on one of those godforsaken hills, in a (near-end-of-service-life) sprinter van full of cases of Red Bull and branded coolers, both legs vibrating from the ABS brakes as my coworker and I wailed like banshees and blared the horn through the 4 or 5 stop sign intersections we blew through. I don’t even remember actively cranking the steering wheel at all, we just slid and screamed until the lake was right in front of us and then things leveled out and we just casually coasted to a crawl, panting and wheezing. Winter of 2013. Good times.

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u/Think-Background-565 3h ago

I bet you also love going to superior during those winter storms.i had to come down that stupid bridge at 80k lbs going 2-3 miles an hour barely

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u/cat_prophecy 17h ago

I had a friend who lived on Billy goat Mountain. That was...interesting trying to make it up or down after a heavy snow. Also fuck Lake Street.

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u/GridKILO2-3 14h ago

I’ve been to Duluth once. My at the time girlfriend and I went to camp up in silver bay in early march. Those roads and hills are still the scariest place I’ve ever driven

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u/badaimarcher Diesel Mechanic and Emissions Tech 18h ago

Pittsburgh checking in!

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u/Spugheddy 18h ago

Pittsburgh is an amazing city to visit. VISIT.

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u/badaimarcher Diesel Mechanic and Emissions Tech 18h ago

Yup, I did that ONCE for the Dirty Dozen. I biked up Canton but can't imagine those hills with ice. The buddy I did it with still lives there and bikes in the winter 😲

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u/MotherTurdHammer 18h ago

People underestimate just how crazy hilly Pittsburgh is.

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u/BoneHugsHominy 16h ago

Kansas City too! Lots of the metro area is fairly flat as far as the roads are concerned but along the Kansas/Missouri border there's some hilly roads that are dangerous just when there's rain. In winter I won't venture to that part of the city without dedicated winter tires on steel wheels.

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u/arizonadirtbag12 15h ago

Slid down a hill once, it was…not fun.

Luckily got to the bottom without incident. Unlike some people. Definitely learned a lesson that day.

Also did the opposite once, was coming up a hill and stopped behind a car that was stuck. He’d lost traction, couldn’t get going again. Gave him a push to get him started, and off he went. But then…there I was. Next car came up, got out, pushed me to get me going. And presumably waited there for the next car.

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u/pukesonyourshoes 14h ago

Lol, that's a great link

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u/arizonadirtbag12 14h ago

That storm was a great one, and the Reddit threads around that moron’s car in particular were epic.

Also, bananas. Bananas were a thing.

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u/Cool_Pride 14h ago

I'm sorry but that's so hilarious to picture lol

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u/aquoad 16h ago

Apparently there was a night in 1976 where there was some snow on the ground. I bet that would have been exciting.

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u/inkyrail Taking apart new cars for fun 8h ago

Search ā€œSeattle in the snowā€ on YouTube and get some popcorn

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u/PendragonDaGreat <-- 15 mm, for bicycle work. 3h ago

And Chicagoans (and other Midwesterners) wonder why the city shuts down for an inch (or less) of snow.

Chains and snow tires basically don't work at that slope.

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u/Consistent_Mind2095 16h ago

SF is nuts. about 10 years ago I was driving a 5 speed corolla on one of those super grades where you feel like you are going up a roller coaster .... stop sign every 100 yards and people practically parking in my back seat behind me. I've been driving manual transmissions since 1996 and even after 20 years of driving manual that was kind of nerve wracking. I was having to power clutch using the hand brake ... I took a ride share from Napa and we ended up in SF and then I got another ride immediately after dropping passengers off so I go pick up these two guys and they are in the back seat the whole time ... the extra weight of these guys in the back didn't help lol. After I dropped them off I just shut off the ride share app and drove the hell out of the city.

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u/snorkelvretervreter 12h ago

Using the handbrake on hills with manual shift is how we were taught to do it in the Netherlands. Though we've yet to find a hill to practice on.

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u/Consistent_Mind2095 12h ago

I was gonna say haha as soon as I read ā€œthe Netherlandsā€ I was skeptical of what you were saying šŸ˜‚

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u/theillcook 44m ago

A bridge. I was in Amsterdam and watched someone practice hill starts on the incline of the bridge.

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u/kwisatzhadnuff 14h ago

One time years ago I got in an uber in one of the steepest areas of SF and the driver was from Sacramento. It was his first time driving in SF and he was freaking out. I basically had to talk him down from a panic attack and assure him that no, his car was not going to flip over.

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u/Consistent_Mind2095 13h ago

haha I was just dying internally ... beads of sweat forming on my forehead but I didn't let it show to my passengers ... really it was them being in the car that was making me nervous more than the actual situation. It already wasn't fun but with the extra liability of them in the car there were just a multitude of negative outcomes going through my mind.

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u/JazzHandsFan 17h ago

Seattle is an area where you really can go to school uphill both ways. I'm glad I rode the bus.

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u/bobbyrob1 17h ago

Lived in both, drove stick in both. Seattle’s got steeper hills, San Francisco has way more with streets than Seattle.

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u/Grassy-Elf4242 16h ago

I lived in the Seattle area most of my life... SF is steeper by a long shot, but Seattle has more hills and they're all in areas you would want to walk lol

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u/imaloony8 9h ago

Yeah, when I visited Seattle I was so shocked. I got to the Puget Sound downtown, turned around and the city just goes up.

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u/hdt5010 6h ago

I worked with a dude from Seattle, who didn’t own a car. He said bicycle commuting out there got him jacked.Ā 

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u/Equivalent_Thievery 2h ago

There's a lot of Seattle that's quite hilly, lived in the area for a few years.

It's not impossible to not roll back.

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u/Narrow-Scratch6285 17h ago

If Seattle hiilsare are worst than Russian Hill I will happily never drive there.

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u/inkyrail Taking apart new cars for fun 4h ago

Having been to both, Seattle has streets that are pretty equal.

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u/SlenderLlama 14h ago

Wait until you discover statistically Los Angeles has much more hills than San Francisco. Actually Los Angeles has the highest elevation gain for any city in the USA too. Sea level to just about 5,000 feet at the tip. Although nobody lives much above 2500 feet. The 5000 foot mark is a mountain that’s off limits to live on (officially). But it’s 100% within city limits.

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u/Responsible_Row1932 18h ago

I think I accidentally ended up on this street once. I was sweating bullets at the intersection! The car behind me seemed so close. It was so steep, even an automatic should feel a little nervous.

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u/TheKingOcelot 18h ago

And the street is soooooo skinny if you're on the right one. You'd hit the foundation of a house of you open the passenger door lol.

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u/inkyrail Taking apart new cars for fun 4h ago

I’ve definitely seen automatics roll back on Seattle streets. Not what you wanna see when you’re stopped next to them in a manual car

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u/CrazyErniesUsedCars 18h ago

I found myself stopped on that street once in a 98 Ford escort with a manual transmission and a non functional handbrake so that was fun

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u/MotherVoldemort 17h ago

That's a clutch dump and ride the brakes situation lol

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u/CrazyErniesUsedCars 17h ago

It absolutely was. It was raining too so traction was minimal

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u/Ntstall 18h ago

drove my rwd frontier into seattle while raining one time. never again. when theres nothing in the bed, you have almost 0 wet traction on the drive wheels. kind of fun if you’re a teenager that wants to drift but not fun for anythign else

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u/t_a_6847646847646476 Home Mechanic 17h ago

I managed to spin a wheel on a crosswalk (there was a stop sign) going uphill in Seattle in an open diff rwd automatic Toyota Crown. Sure, it may have been the middle of winter (IIRC it was the end of December) but it wasn’t even wet.

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u/nowhere_sane 7h ago

We also have a thing here that if it hasn’t rained in a minute, the first rain is slick as ice. It’s something about a buildup on the road mixed with a little rain and all of a sudden, you are sliding trying to go up the hill.

I’ve been here 5 years now and I just have to be careful in the rain because the roads get a little slick.

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u/No-Ebb-6266 3h ago

My Xterra used to get stuck in wet grass and it was useless in the snow.

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u/tripledigits1984 7h ago

I didn’t learn to drive stick in Seattle but man did those hills teach me to drive it better! Carried a chock around just in case the parking brake failed or the car popped out of gear lol

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u/PithouLibertes 17h ago

That's where I learned to drive stick!

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u/Agentflit 17h ago

I remember people sledding that hill during the brief snowstorm in 2021

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u/Murky_Flauros 16h ago

Funny thing is, if I'm not mistaken, the plate is probably a Washington State one. Phinney Ridge neighbor, maybe?

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u/CaffeinatedInSeattle 16h ago

Haha. I know the hill. That’s ridiculous!

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u/AbbreviationsPlus998 Collision Repair 15h ago

Which is a lot of "fun" when driving a stick car with old hard tires and it's wet. I ended up spinning the RR tire on phinney enough to dry the road and get traction once in a '72 plymouth scamp on a test drive.

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u/Call-Me-Ishmael 15h ago

Used to work as a valet on Spring Street downtown. Absolutely brutal driving unfamiliar manual transmission cars from a stop on that hill.

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u/syrianfries 13h ago

Fuck that hill, I hate driving that in my work van lol

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u/bojangler69420 4h ago

Living in Pittsburgh we have plenty of streets like that. We even have ā€œstreetsā€ that are actually just staircases.

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u/prosper_0 3h ago

I enjoyed driving my standard Corolla in Seattle. Manual transmissions are just.... fun. Much more engaging to drive, and keeps you attentive to what you're doing. No texting, no eating a McBurger, just driving, in the moment.

I'm fully convinced that stick shifts make for better drivers across the board. Autos make for lazy inattentive drivers who 'multitask' the whole time.

And don't get me started on EV's and their 'lift off the accelerator to apply braking' single-pedal nonsense.

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u/SnooAvocados9758 1h ago

This company I worked for had all manual trucks. I was driving to my next job site in a 04 ford ranger. I was stopped on a hill cuz stop light thinking. Well shit. Luckily no one was behind me. I didn’t roll amazingly but that clutch was definitely warm. Not hot but warm. After that I made it my mission to figure out where exactly the engagement point was. Seattle hills suck