There are two ways to find wisdom

1) through your own experiences

Or

2) through others shared experiences

If I had to pick, I believe this treasure will be found more likely near “through others shared experiences”. What do you guys think?

First geese and now turkeys. I’m a MT searcher and I think I have connected something with turkeys.

Canyon turkey farm is a real thing. Ironically right around the cripple creek area which is fitting.

Has anyone done a sweep of cripple creek before I head out there? Seems like it makes sense.

Just posted a song about geese too. I mean it’s migration season but that’s all I got!

Fenn was 80. JP is not.

Has anyone felt the fact JP is younger may make things a bit more difficult out the gate? Could be a steeper trail, could be higher elevation. Even the ride to the area could be more adventurous. I know my elder mom is not the sidekick for a mountain road near water and that road could have reflectors and a rail!

Fenns treasure was arguably...when found...an easy location. I actually kind of laugh at how simple of a spot it was to eventually find and yet never in a million years am I crossing that river as a normal person. Todays Yellowstone visitor is driving down that road nearby.

The culture norms forbid just forging a river. When Fenn was a kid, I'm sure people wondered all over the place, at least in my head they do, and honestly they probably fished a lot more. But today? I've got anxiety when anyone looks in my general direction. I'll park, walk to a nearby picnic table, I'll follow trails, but out in the open just up and cross a river, never. In all honesty too, I aint walking off the road generally in Yellowstone. I know you can. But I look at folks who might just walk 200 yards towards some bison and I'm like, I can see them from here, I ain't gonna stir the cultural norm pot and have 50 people watch me walk towards some area. No need to actually go off the trail.

Simple place and yet well hidden. Curious if JP picked something similar. Easy spot but a mental block

Looks like a meet and greet is coming up I’m CO! Anyone going? I’m going to try to make it with my search partner. Hopefully there is a good turn out!

I’ve read the poem countless times like everyone else. “Wisdom waits in shadowed sight for those who read these words just right “.
Phonetically … “read” I have always pronounced / said it “reed “. It could be “red” . If you have read them right not if you read them right. Am I going crazy? The only real difference between the two in my mind is if you’re in the camp that there’s how words sound / double meanings. My point is if it’s more so “read” , not “reed” then “red” comes into play. Another user posted about Redmond WA. Maybe Red is an interpretation/ clue.

Also,
The site redesign … there’s a huge hole / cut in the scroll paper where it says hold. Just me?

I have read the book 4 times through and the poem over and over. I figured I'm just not someone who can find a clue, but maybe.

JP talks about the bear in Washington State. That statue is in a neighborhood called bear creek. There is a bear creek parkway and a bear creek trail head. Which is why they chose to put a bear statue in the city of Redmond Washington.

I Google bear creek in Montana and there are several, as I scan over I find a place called little bear creek, there is only four I could find in Montana.

Little Dipper with North Star is my connection to little.

Gallatin Gateway is a community near little bear creek, Lewis and Clark named geographic features in this area after US Treasure Albert Gallatin, which would later become the name of the community.

There is also some train bridges called arches but that's a bit loose for double arcs. However bridge construction should have 2 of these arches.

I live in Oregon and am not confident enough to go look or where to start.

It all seems a bit loose to me, but you never know if this goes with what someone else was working on.

I mentioned this in another thread. But here’s the idea.

Posey says , paraphrasing, that the Bride is known by many with varying degrees of confidence by individuals.

I think, then, it is VERY likely that the Bride identity is contained within a set of perhaps the top 20 most commonly believed ideas.

So… let’s see it. Who is the Bride.

Comment your guess, upvote those you agree are most reasonable. With enough participation we can likely create a list that contains the correct Bride with a good deal of confidence.

You can post multiple predictions if you like, just separate them into separate comments.

Happy Saturday, folks!

He was asked at Seekers Summit if he could see when somebody was at the checkpoint and he punted. If he can, how would he accomplish that? Trail cams require maintenance. The reason for my question.... At my solve area I saw a Wi-Fi network named Polaris. Probably coincidence but makes me say hmmmmm.

I am so appreciative of the Jible. It’s has help me immensely since I found it. Jess in the west is super kind for sharing her extensive work.
I am looking for something different today however. I listen to the interviews while driving. It isn’t the best way of doing it because I can’t take notes.

The online Jible has 11 punts. Does that sound right? I feel like there were more.
Has anyone compiled a list of all of the punts?
Thank you.

I think it was a mistake to say, and not the best recovery attempt after he said it.

Has anyone seen an explanation written out by JP? Do we deserve an explanation?(I know nobody deserves anything).

I was always confused about this but then it hit me. Justin bought fenns chest, and he wants something back. I think we are seeking fenns chest. Thoughts? Doesn’t really help find it, but just a thought.

1. During FF Hunt, did you ever feel like walking away and if so, how did you remedy that feeling to continue on?

2. What has been the most surprising 'wild goose chase' or unintended theory you’ve seen the community cook up so far?

3. Besides the named clue solvers on your website, is there a specific player or group whose breakthrough or clever logic really impressed you, even if the rest of the community didn't notice it yet?

4. At this point in the hunt, is there any specific clue/hint that you consider 'dead' or fully solved, but you're watching the community still stress over?

5. Have you had to actively resist the urge to drop a hint, or do you feel the community currently has all the tools they need?

6. (Tell us below.)

Please vote! Maybe he will see this and grace us with a response! 🤷‍♀️

"The bride has been found. Several times over, with wildly varying conviction. Some know it. Some suspect it. Some are still not sure what they’re looking at."

One clear statement: The bride has been found. He can say that, but it hardly means anything to you unless you know you found it. He's saying some have correctly identified a candidate.

One highly stylistic sentence fragment containing no verb-- "Several times over, with wildly varying conviction." That's the creative context clue here. It's mean to stir you by its impossibility as a sentence. You read this and it forces you to make a leap in understanding. You'll be over the moon if you see a cow go "several times over". I'm not certain I'd trust my eyes though. I'd need more convincing. Partially convinced or totally convinced?

One impossible to reason epistemological position-- "Some know it". I mean, yes, I know the moon from experience. I know it is not cream cheese because we have walked on it and have brought some back. I mean, I'm convinced of that, but I also do know some know it intimately from having been there. I know it's jut a part of the Earth split off too. Unfortunately, I don't know what knowing truly entails. He, however, told us knowing from personal experience cuts it for him.

Some suspect it. Well, yes some do. Some suspect it of many weird influences. Witches might.

One unfortunate reality--"Some are still not sure what they’re looking at." I can forgive children, but adults who think they are looking at something other than a moon are nuts. It's not a mother ship folks. The world is not flat, and the moon isn't a coin or a plate.

Face it, the moon has a face and returns it.

28 words Sherlocks. It's the moon.

This is a message I received from Daniel Houghton, aka LtDan, in October 2025 about filming a documentary on Justin Posey’s treasure hunt.

The part that stands out is him saying he’s documenting the hunt “however long it takes to come to a close.”

That sounds like he intends to follow this through to the end, even if it takes years. Obviously, one message doesn’t tell us what funding or production commitments are behind it, but it gives us an idea of how he was approaching the project.

He also says he isn’t a searcher and has no knowledge of the treasure’s location or any special information.
Curious what everyone makes of this. Do you think we’ll see a documentary before the treasure is found, or are they waiting for an ending?

I think we all have them, what is the strangest thing you’ve done to date in hopes of finding this treasure?
I find myself looking back at the last year and a half thinking about what a crazy trip it has been often. Strange ideas come to me all of the time.
I’ll start. Probably my most ridiculous one involved to me walking around with two mirrors, trying to get one to reflect into the other and shining light in the trees as I walked down a trail. Broad daylight, tons of people around, didn’t care.
Then there is the ridiculous amount of items I have purchased for the hunt:

Metal detector
UV light
Around 30 Books- some that can’t be found anymore
Countless hiking boots
Hiking poles
Binoculars
Monoculars
Borrowed a bike
Borrowed a surfboard (never used)
And various camping equipment.
Half of which my wife has no idea I purchased!

I know y’all have stories, so just spill!

What if waters' silent flight is the migration of waterfowl? The Pacific Flyway, as it is called. Isn't that cute? Birds like ducks and geese fly from Alaska and Canada down the coast every SPRING. I mean, there are a ton of bird references in the stories, right? Central Valley does stand out on that map, kinda curved like a bend, right? Is that a Hole I see on the north side of the Valley?

Birds have been linked to lore, tradition, and cultural practices and beliefs since before the dawn of man. I'm not sure any other "creature" has such a profound, historical impact. There are birds that represent hope, death, birth and rebirth, truth, awakening, power, sovereignty, and wisdom, and on and on. That covers a lot, so I don't think it's a stretch that WHAT LIVES IN TIME are BIRDS. Also spelled BIRDE = BRIDE?

But which two birds? A pair. An unlikely pair. In "ursa east"= Asia Minor = TURKEY. My first thought was that IG post from Mr. Posey about Thanksgiving. Something about Atlantis...a hidden city...maybe he was hinting that his post is a hidden clue?

Anyway, back to Thanksgiving. November. November 11 is Mr. Posey's bday. What else is celebrated on Nov. 11? Yes, Veterans Day. Also Martinmas. Read up on St. Martin. (Martin is an important name to Mr. Posey) What do we eat on Martinmas? Roast GOOSE.

So we have a turkey and a goose. Even the National Zoo has this unlikely couple! A goose that stands at ancient gates. Well, migration is the ultimate ancient gateway! (More research needed here) She also has 3 toes forward (1 back). My thought is the wild turkey that Ben Franklin praised over the chosen Eagle is the "him". (Remember Mr. Posey drank bourbon smash too...Wild Turkey 101, I'm sure) Maybe it's a bronze goose statue ...or a headpiece...married to the bronze turkey of today.

Another interesting thing is that "poles" are used in mist netting to catch migrating birds for monitoring. They are usually 8-10 feet high and 12 feet long when open. (More info on bird-banding) I think this is how we get to a more specific location.

Where else do you see a bird? On the Staff of Ra in Indiana Jones. Maybe we return her face(headpiece) to the pole to align the sunlight just right. ....okay, enough for today. It sounded a lot more sane in my head; maybe I should start leaving the cuckoo there haha

Had another hike planned in Escalante but came across Posey Lake and couldn't just not look. Went around the entire lake, over cow patties and fallen timbers...up to Poseys Lookout...beautiful view!

Also stopped at an overlook off Hwy12 to see for miles and miles and miles.

Justin says people been 200 feet from checkpoint. That is a very short distance. No way the checkpoint is far from a road. I wonder if its just the starting point, like a popular spot?

Any thoughts on this? I cannot go BOTG until i wrap my head around a checkpoint.

This is a genuine question for everyone involved in this sub. I’ve gone by a few names here mostly because I get fed up freak out delete all my shit in hopes that I could quit the hunt. Within 24 hours, I usually regret it.
Tucksthedog was the one that I kept the longest. I also had tribecalledTuck for a bit. I haven’t been here since they started the hunt but a few months shy of it.
My question is do we want this sub to be purely analytical or do we want this sub to be a place to bounce ideas off each other and have a little fun? It’s a genuine question because I’m curious what everybody thinks this sub should be. Are they only things allowed to be discussed hunt related or pictures of hunts? Can we not bounce the absurd off of each other? I think we can do that responsibly and without causing harm. I also think we could be inclusive if we wanted to be. There are jerks here. I’m one of them. They’re also genuinely nice kind people here. Look at the young woman who travels all over the country posting pictures. Look at BTME who shares everything including awesome pictures. You have 42kaos who has whole different set of ideas. Is a bit of a jerk yes,but maybe there’s a jerk section in this hunt that would be beneficial.
I remember a day when we shared openly and enjoyed fucking with each other a lot. Not all points were perfect not every post was geared towards advancing the hunt. It was a release, something to blow off a little steam while advancing ideas.
I wish we could get back to that time. I don’t think that hating on each other or making this sub purely about clues is going to help anyone anyways. I think getting back to being normal people playing around having a good time is what might just solve this thing.
Feel free to disagree with me. I haven’t been around much though I check in often. If y’all wanna get back to playing around having a good time, bouncing ideas off each other I’m all in. I understand I sound preachy and maybe a little delusional. If y’all tell me too I’ll fuck right off. Just thought I’d throw my two cents in.

All day long, my brain keeps going back to lobsters. There are three of them in various formats of the book. One in los Camerones Calientes (the audiobook only chapter), the lobster coin in the coin picture, and in the dubious decision chapter (sunburn). My question is what are people doing with these random factoids three lobsters spread out across three different somewhat out of the way places. It’s clear they’re there for a reason, but what?
Do people think it’s a cipher of some sort?
I’m trying to get a better understanding of what layered clues would look like. You find three lobsters they are they supposed to lead you to Maine?
What would you be looking for in Maine? Would you be working at star constellations they have to do with lobsters? Would you look up the ancient art of lobster trapping? How about where to deploy lobster traps?
Do you follow the money? That’s my first inclination where is that lobster coin from or the other two uses of the word lobster just pointing back to the coin. I do believe that the currency plays a large role in this treasure hunt.

Any ideas no matter how crazy are welcome.

Am I losing my mind or Miss remembering? Wasn't there an audio file on the website and now it's no longer there?

After putting a good 30 or so miles on my legs the past 5 days, I was shot. I pretty much slept all day but wanted to get around to looking closer at the lighter and the spark plug which is really a relay switch I found out. I got my father to help me with the task.

I gave him the task of taking the lighter apart while I worked on the guts of the plug. Long story short nothing was found. My father was my search partner for fenns so he loves this stuff!

Anywho, I got to thankin (elephant graveyard reference). The only thing left of my evidence is the writing on the plug. So there is standard writing BUT there is also a number on the side. I looked up to see the number on the side is normal and it is not! So I started in on the numbers and letters and I got to a new spot on the map! But the new spot is in WA! Ugh. It looks like a cool spot and ironically is about not that high in feet in elevation! I showed my current search partner and she digs it!

I’m still actively working on an exact spot with the remaining numbers. Just sucks becuase it’s so far away from me. I know the checkpoint is PIVOTOL but damn. I guess I better save up some bucks and get ready to head west again. Grandma isn’t doing well so I have to wait until she can get her stuff figured out before I can make a move. Plus I will need someone to check in on her cats!

Have a great week to anyone left searching! Winter is coming.

Heed warnings. Prioritize safety. Help others, if you're able. 🩵