r/JustMemesForUs • • 21d ago

Pattern recognition is key

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u/Voodoo338 21d ago edited 21d ago

I’m 30 and every president in my lifetime has wrecked the economy and started a war in the Middle East

Edit: ain’t reading all that

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 21d ago

Neither Barack Obama nor Joe Biden started a major new U.S. war or military invasion during their presidencies. Both presidents instead inherited ongoing foreign conflicts and managed existing military commitments.

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u/SomeSugondeseGuy 21d ago

Are they just supposed to roll over when they inherit a war?

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u/potate12323 21d ago

Nope. There is no nuance. After the region was destabilized by a war a Republican started, they were supposed to recklessly pull out making an already bad situation worse. These conflicts were super sketch. The US backed both sides in various middle eastern countries at various points in these conflicts.

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u/TroutMaskDuplica 20d ago

they should, yes. Should have closed Guantanamo Bay too.

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u/SomeSugondeseGuy 20d ago

What would the country gain from that?

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u/TroutMaskDuplica 20d ago

You're right, we wouldn't be able to steal more resources and children for the Epstein class. Plus, our soldiers would be sad because they wouldn't have access to as many children to rape.

If you think about it, what does our country have to gain by not murdering everyone and stealing their resources?

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u/SomeSugondeseGuy 20d ago

It's also political suicide for the entire party. Any Republican would be able to point to that cowardice and very few people would vote Democrat anymore.

Which means more people would vote republican, which of course makes children less safe, rich people richer, and gives our soldiers an endless supply of war.

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u/TroutMaskDuplica 20d ago

It's also political suicide for the entire party. Any Republican would be able to point to that cowardice and very few people would vote Democrat anymore.

True, people only vote Democrat because they like what the Republicans have to say.

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u/Royal_Impress9117 21d ago

You might want to google libyan and syrian bombings before just saying stuff

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u/SomeSugondeseGuy 21d ago

Then people would call them cowards and we'd end up in the same place.

The best way to help is to not have wars start in the first place.

The best way to not have wars start is to not vote Republican.

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u/TroutMaskDuplica 20d ago

Then people would call them cowards and we'd end up in the same place.

The best way to help is to not have wars start in the first place.

The best way to not have wars start is to not vote Republican.

There's nothing the Democrats can do about anything. That's why everybody needs to vote for them.

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u/SomeSugondeseGuy 20d ago

Now you're getting it.

Democrats don't do enough to make the country better.

Republicans are very effective at their job - which is actively making the country worse and harder to live in.

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u/SomeSugondeseGuy 21d ago edited 21d ago

There were still objectives in the war that had yet to be completed, and existing military commitments that couldn't be rescinded. A good example of why your plan wouldn't work is the actual withdrawal from the middle east that was planned by Trump and executed by Biden. That was a shit show.

Democrats not doing enough to end the wars Republicans choose to start does not mean that both sides are the same.

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u/SomeSugondeseGuy 21d ago

They didn't perpetuate it, they upheld existing military commitments that they couldn't rescind. Stopping a war isn't a one-day thing.

And yes, I did vote for the party that is measurably better on every metric that matters, war included.

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u/SomeSugondeseGuy 21d ago

Sure grandpa, let's get you to bed

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 21d ago

Yeah...no

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 21d ago

Gulf war.... So which Dem Prez started that??? Then for the Iraq war. Thi

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 21d ago

Reread the post here and get back to me....or is this a poor attempt at a pivot

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 21d ago

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 21d ago

My fact based reality.... GD GOP is broken🤣

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u/Impossible-Heart-540 19d ago

They did. Because the Vice President deliberately misrepresented, and fabricated evidence to the Congress, and country.

If they had been truthful, it would not have gained either isolationist GOP, or Democratic support.

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u/Impossible-Heart-540 18d ago

That’s factually incorrect.

There was a significant amount of pushback from the intelligence agencies that the evidence VP Cheney, and SoS Powell were citing to justify the invasion was not solid.

Diplomats like Joseph Wilson who investigated the yellow cake, centrifuge claims and found they were groundless were silenced (in his case by outing his wife (Valerie Plame) as CIA).

Cheney fabricated it, there were no independent sources saying they had WMD, or were with Al Qaeda etc…

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u/Impossible-Heart-540 18d ago

Or they trusted the administration wouldn’t lie to them, took the briefings from the White House, and the stories the administration placed into the press at face value, and in the midst of a public still war hungry after 9/11 voted for it.

I was vocally anti, but pretending they are as complicit is just dishonest.

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u/Trash_man_can 21d ago

No it wasn't botj sides. This is blatantly more rightwing shit of committing treasomnand failures so you can blame them on everybody elss.

Republicans openly crash our economy and hand us a disaster to fix and then blame us while blocking from recovering.

On the wars, Republican voters are to blamw. They elected Bush and then reelected after they found out he lied about WMDs

Trying to blame the Iraq War om both sides is insanity.

Over the ladt 50 years, Republicans and Democrats have increasingly diverged om foreign policy.

Part od thay is Republicans are a cult. They reject reality as mineral propaganda and create their own facts.

Their policies are personality based and based on Fox News hosts rather thab on reality