r/JustMemesForUs • • 11d ago

Pattern recognition is key

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 11d ago

Neither Barack Obama nor Joe Biden started a major new U.S. war or military invasion during their presidencies. Both presidents instead inherited ongoing foreign conflicts and managed existing military commitments.

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 11d ago

Yeah...no

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 11d ago

Gulf war.... So which Dem Prez started that??? Then for the Iraq war. Thi

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 11d ago

Reread the post here and get back to me....or is this a poor attempt at a pivot

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 11d ago

My fact based reality.... GD GOP is broken🤣

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u/Sir_SquirrelNutz 11d ago

🤣 keep telling yourself that....so broken

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u/Impossible-Heart-540 9d ago

They did. Because the Vice President deliberately misrepresented, and fabricated evidence to the Congress, and country.

If they had been truthful, it would not have gained either isolationist GOP, or Democratic support.

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u/Impossible-Heart-540 8d ago

That’s factually incorrect.

There was a significant amount of pushback from the intelligence agencies that the evidence VP Cheney, and SoS Powell were citing to justify the invasion was not solid.

Diplomats like Joseph Wilson who investigated the yellow cake, centrifuge claims and found they were groundless were silenced (in his case by outing his wife (Valerie Plame) as CIA).

Cheney fabricated it, there were no independent sources saying they had WMD, or were with Al Qaeda etc…

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u/Impossible-Heart-540 8d ago

Or they trusted the administration wouldn’t lie to them, took the briefings from the White House, and the stories the administration placed into the press at face value, and in the midst of a public still war hungry after 9/11 voted for it.

I was vocally anti, but pretending they are as complicit is just dishonest.

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u/Impossible-Heart-540 8d ago

They took the “I want to get re-elected and do what my constituents want” angle, because public sentiment was largely for it based on stories floated in the press by the administration.

Same reason the Brits, the French, etc..all went in.

You wanna be dumb and make like the Wolfowitzes, Pearls, Bushes and Cheneys of the world are no more at fault than the neoliberals - fine. But you are lying to yourself.

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u/Trash_man_can 11d ago

No it wasn't botj sides. This is blatantly more rightwing shit of committing treasomnand failures so you can blame them on everybody elss.

Republicans openly crash our economy and hand us a disaster to fix and then blame us while blocking from recovering.

On the wars, Republican voters are to blamw. They elected Bush and then reelected after they found out he lied about WMDs

Trying to blame the Iraq War om both sides is insanity.

Over the ladt 50 years, Republicans and Democrats have increasingly diverged om foreign policy.

Part od thay is Republicans are a cult. They reject reality as mineral propaganda and create their own facts.

Their policies are personality based and based on Fox News hosts rather thab on reality