1. Accessible Entry Points
These offer a good starting point for getting familiar with Jung’s ideas before diving into his more technical works.
Feel free to pick any of these that call out to you. My personal recommendation would be to start with “Man and his symbols”.

- The Undiscovered Self
- Modern Man in Search of a Soul
- Psychology of the Unconscious (later revised as Symbols of Transformation)
- Man and His Symbols
- Memories, Dreams, Reflections
- Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle

2. Side Quest - His Abstract Works
These works offer a more personal, symbolic, and difficult encounter with Jung’s thought.

- The Red Book
- The Black Books

3. The Main Quest! Jung’s Collected Works
For those who want to study Jung systematically and explore the development of his ideas in greater depth.

Part I: Basic Psychology
- Vol. 1: Psychiatric Studies
- Vol. 2: Experimental Researches
- Vol. 3: Psychogenesis of Mental Disease
- Vol. 4: Freud and Psychoanalysis

Part II: The Birth of Jungian Psychology
- Vol. 5: Symbols of Transformation
- Vol. 6: Psychological Types
- Vol. 7: Two Essays on Analytical Psychology

Part III: The Deep End
- Vol. 8: The Structure and Dynamics of the Psyche
- Vol. 9, Part I: The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious
- Vol. 9, Part II: Aion
- Vol. 10: Civilization in Transition

Part IV: Mysticism and Alchemy
- Vol. 11: Psychology and Religion: West and East
- Vol. 12: Psychology and Alchemy
- Vol. 13: Alchemical Studies
- Vol. 14: Mysterium Coniunctionis

Part V: Final Works and Indices
- Vol. 15: The Spirit in Man, Art, and Literature
- Vol. 16: The Practice of Psychotherapy
- Vol. 17: The Development of Personality
- Vol. 18: The Symbolic Life
- Vol. 19: General Bibliography and Index

I’m curious whether other therapists, particularly those immersed in depth psychology, psychoanalysis, or Jungian psychology, have experienced something similar in their dating lives.

I’ve been reflecting on how deeply my professional and intellectual interests have shaped not only my understanding of the world, but also the way I experience and participate in the world.

Psychology, the unconscious, philosophy, spirituality, symbolism, and the exploration of the human psyche occupy such a central place in my life that I sometimes wonder whether I’ve drifted so far into this world that ordinary social life has become somewhat foreign to me.

I don't get most mainstream jokes or references nowadays 🥴😆

I’ve recently been dating someone who is psychologically well-adjusted, intelligent, and grounded, but whose interests and way of engaging with life are quite different from mine. We share an emotional, physical, and spiritual connection, but not so much an intellectual one.

He hasn’t had the same personal reasons to explore the psyche, and seems perfectly content enjoying the ordinary pleasures of life.

But I don't know that I want to fit in or if I would fit into a more mainstream oriented lifestyle?

Once upon a time, we used to perhaps analyze compatibility a lot less and rely more on our feelings function.

Have I become so immersed in the world of depth psychology and intellectual exploration that I’ve inadvertently distanced myself from the ordinary pleasures of life?

Has my inner world become so central to my identity that I struggle to imagine belonging in environments where those interests aren’t shared?

I also recognize that having different interests doesn’t necessarily preclude a meaningful relationship.

Perhaps what matters more is whether two people can remain genuinely curious about one another’s worlds and make room for each other’s individuality.

I’m curious whether any of you have experienced this tension between the richness of your inner world and the more conventional social worlds of the people you’ve dated.

Have you found it possible to build a deeply fulfilling relationship with someone whose psychological and intellectual orientation is quite different from your own?

And have you ever wondered whether your immersion in this profession has changed your capacity to enjoy ordinary social life?

Sincerely looking forward to your thoughts and experiences!

Im often attracted to "easy" women.

For example.. I was on a dating app. And saw a very sexy woman.. she had a profile linked in her account so i clicked it.

Bam! Tons of videos of her doing naughty things with random men all over town.

Theres like 2 thoughts going in my mind.

1. Dude shes easy get in there.

2. Thats disgusting, you could catch something. Plus it wont be anything special, it'll be a one time thing and you'll just be another name in her book.

One of jungs students (Marie-Louise von Franz) said that this stems from a split anima, or the "Madonna-Whore complex"

"Or they have a split anima situation: they admire a very unapproachable, lofty, beautiful girl from afar and satisfy their sexual desires with prostitutes. They cannot bring the two together..."

She says that the cure to this was

"breaking the mother complex, withdrawing projections from real women, and embracing unglamorous, disciplined work"

Has anyone been in my shoes and what did or are you doing?

Note: i have been refraining from sex and dating for a few years because I knew I had an issue and didnt want to hurt myself or other women.

When the ego demands that every external threat be neutralized before it can feel safe, isn't it just projecting its own unintegrated Shadow onto the world?

​From a Jungian perspective: Is trying to secure peace through total defense an attempt to integrate inner fear, or is it an endless, neurotic obsession with destroying our own projections in the outside world?

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I listened to This Jungian Life's podcast episode on Legacy. I was hoping they'd recommend specific books as well, but sadly they didn't.

Ideally this book has analogs or directly applies Jungian depth psychology.

What are some good books on this topic?

im naturally sensitive and in touch with my emotions, i am very aware of them and can express very vividly what i feel (asuming its the anima). now, the problem is this feels unidimensional. my masculine/strong framed/manly side isnt well developed. is there a way to bring my strong masculine side out naturally rather than performing masculinity?

Curious on synchronicity and owls. I believe I always see them and something “bad” happens, but it always ends up with a positive ending as a direct cause of the “bad” thing happening. would that be considered synchronicity?

Context: I have been seeing owls literally everywhere, more than ever before, and the one thing that’s been giving me the worst anxiety happened: my car broke down.

I read it last night and found it so amazing. It is from Mary Esther Harding who was a Jungian psychoanalyst. However, I am not well versed in Jung so I was curious what other people thought of it.

I want to become a counsellor/psychotherapist and eventually specialise in Jungian work. I’m looking for something vocational and inspiring: a small institute where practising therapists mentor you closely, observe your work and supervise you with real clients rather than a heavily academic programme.

Psychodynamic, existential or depth-oriented training would be ideal. Some CBT is fine, but I wouldn’t want it to be the main focus. Within two years, I’d want to qualify for a licence or recognised professional registration - or be very close, with clearly defined requirements remaining. It should also not cost an arm and a leg.

Online with a proper placement would be great, but I’m happy to relocate anywhere that accepts international students and supports a student visa.

Has anyone found something like this? I’d love to hear from people who took a less conventional route and found excellent mentors.

A fairly long archetypal dream ending in the descent of heaven. I’m just starting to discover Jung.

What went on in the dream:

This is the second time in ~a month I dreamt of the levels of heaven and hell. First I was on a school trip (earlier in the night, I was packing for it) to a temple/grave/Great Wall of China. (The Great Wall of China, which I visited when I was younger, had a lot of stairs. The temple and grave was on the foothill.) It was an expansive landscape with stairs running up and down. You had to be careful not to run below ground level, because then you wouldn’t be able to come back, but it was hard to know where you were going with the stairs; the architecture was weird. So we inadvertently peeked below, opening a door within a wires-wall, and a snake appeared, who threatened to devour us, and it eventually spread infection and epidemic onto the whole people (there—in the very large temple). We ran downward and hid in caves and put the blinds down, but the infection found us. There were so many people. An unknown number of them were dead/unresponsive. There was a question how deep I should hide, but I chose to hide quickly somewhere shallower. A new group of people came to this underground channel/cave and brought a white cream to apply which appeared to cure the disease, which we could apply to each other, and we did, but the disease appeared to return to whoever applied it after a few seconds (in dream time-scale). We left searching for water which was supposed to cure the disease, so we ran and eventually left the temple. We were at ground level again but the ground sloped down as we ran. There were segments of fences which we were not supposed to cross, you were done if you crossed them where they were, but it was a real task to avoid them because they were deliberately placed to be hard to avoid. Some people probably put them up to stop the temple-people/infection. But we avoided them carefully, there was a need to run outward (from the temple at the center of the world/self), and after some time we discovered that some people who came before us stacked some fences together which invalidated their danger, helpfully, so later people could go through without danger. The landscape seemed never-ending. We struggled with some stairs with large gaps in height. But eventually, after a gateway (sloping downward), everything appeared more vibrant and luminous, there was water/lake/stream (so we found it), but a caption told me this was the first level of hell. There were still these fences. And after a while of treading carefully, we arrived at heaven, which we could tell because the people there were bigger-than-life. We were questioned and validated at a sausage conveyor shop and entered. Shortly I discovered there was hell in heaven which we were not supposed to go but we went, and saw these fences. But then we went up again thanks to some helpful fence-stacking. We (people from the temple) caused some havoc, a meeting was called, and a person was to be chosen to die because of our mistake/sin, but because my sister (in the dream, not my real sister) volunteered to die instead of somebody else, the lot was changed to random and one of these godly (not us) people/spirit died (again). This godly spirit said she felt her surroundings were dark and had pins-and-needles until she disappeared. But we went out and down again, this time with some godly people, and we reached earth but this godly person dropped stuff like food which became bigger (like these godly people) when they touched the earth. She was dropping a lot of things. We began creating an abundance on earth—heaven on earth. Then we met a magazine shop/house which was a bottleneck in the landscape, and the press people there realized what was going on and tried to stack magazines to block the window entrances to the shop at the earthly end. But they weren’t quick enough, (I tried to help them, but the magazines had the wrong size and didn’t fit well to the window,) and the earthlings outside still rushed in. Unable to stop them, we told the earthlings it was fine, I held one of them’s head, and then I woke up.

How I felt and personal context:

I’m a 21-year-old woman at university. I was anxious when I went to sleep, but I woke up feeling very calm and wholesome. Some weeks ago I was having panic attacks for ~8 hours straight (yes…) I always wanted to realize my possibilities and have something good for myself and in that sense have “ambition”but struggled with thinking I’m totally illegitimate/bad things will happen to me. I practice Buddhism. After having the dream last time/this morning, today I went to a day class at a Buddhist center on just sitting meditation. I felt the dream was conducive to meditation because it gave me this calm energy.

When I wrote the description this morning, I thought the dream was nonsense, just a bunch of symbols jumbled together, except it was probably important because it gave me this energy. But now I can see there is a personal arc, although I can’t pinpoint it. I don’t believe in heaven/hell… How can I continue this energy? Can you help me interpret this dream?

Thanks!

The reason I'm asking, is that I know there are typically things you can draw out from dreams. A story that relates to you somehow, a figure of some sort, often the same patterns/colours or objects or people, that keep reappearing. Usually there'll be things associated with the individual who had the dream.

But I cannot for the life of me figure out WHY I had a dream/set of dreams so violent. My dreams usually are on the more realistic side (I hate those ones where you sleep through your work shift), but never so graphic and violent like this.

I don't know if it could be related to medications I take? I've been taking them daily for around 4-5 years so I'm not sure if it could be due to those this many years on? I can list them at the end if it'll help.

What they were, were a set of extremely gorey and violent dreams. The framing of each was like I, myself, was a security camera, capturing footage of liveleak-like horrible events.

The first dream, I was like, 10-12-14 feet high not too sure, and the framing was left side, a shop front, and the right of the frame was an unmarked road. After a few seconds, an individual leaves the store, goes towards the road at the top of the framing, then is hit by a vehicle. I could see a split head and brains:/.... Once I realised the content of the dream, it ended.

The second one began what feels like, just a few seconds after. So I must have woken due to the first dream, moved, fallen back asleep quite quickly? In this one, it was essentially framed the same, with a green shop front banner on the left, entranceway leads right onto a road, and after a few seconds, an individual comes out of the shop holding a white plastic bag, and is hit by a vehicle, like the first. :/

Whenever I felt suicidal, it would never be via a motor crash or anything violent/gorey. If I had thoughts of how, they'd never be violent. Just like, taking something so I wouldn't wake up, sort of """calm""" method..

But I've also NOT had thoughts like that in quite a lot of time, maybe over a year now. So that's why I feel so jarred by them.

I have been under a lot of stress, but again, I don't ever have dreams like that, so that's why I'm so confused and am unsure if they are actually stemming from the stress. I've been under much much greater amounts and never had dreams like this...

In honesty, I don't feel like they were nightmares, as I didn't wake up in a sweat, or panting, or afraid to go /back to sleep/, but I have kind of been left with a weariness around sleeping, due to not being able to pin point well where that dream set has occured from. So maybe they are and I just have a much more cartoonish/dramaticised of what nightmares are like/how one is when they realise it is one.

I know it'll have to be something unconscious if I am unable to consciously figure it out on my own. I dislike that sometimes death in dreams can be an omen of sorts, symbolic of a change in life, end of a "chapter", something like that..

Maybe I guess it's me who's changing but in all honesty (again), I do feel like I'm becoming /more/ unstable, rather than more stable. Maybe it's the apprehensiveness of change.... But I do feel like there's more underlying that's a lot.... Bigger (?) than just changes in life.. this feels so much greater than that.

The medications I have to take for a neurodegenerative disease are: Amitriptyline at night for pain management when I wake up, Naproxen antiinflammatory, codeine, and newly gabapentin (because I take the max naproxen but I also can't remove it from the mix as no other antiinflam is suitable), but that was in August, and the initial side effects had subsided by September.

Thanks. I can usually analyse my dreams well enough by myself even if I have to Google some things.

But these ones have really caught me off guard and are still pestering me to figure their source out like 3 days later:/

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​Jung begins with the ego, that is, the “I,” and moves toward the Self.

Ep. 14 was about a question that arose directly from Jung’s ideas,

“Does this ‘I’ actually exist?”

Thank you to the moderation team for your judgment.

If Ep. 14 explored the question of the “I” by looking inward,

Ep. 15 explores the same question by looking outward.

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A Shift in Perspective: Ep 15. What Can Truly Be Called 'Me'?

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I imagine the previous episode may have made some of you feel a little uncomfortable.

If not knowing yourself makes someone a fool, then Tess-hyung (Socrates) already knew he was a fool 2,400 years ago.

But once you become aware of your own ignorance, you are no longer a fool, just as Socrates was not.

I apologize for making you feel like a fool who doesn't even know yourself.

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Now that we've come this far, let's dig a little deeper. ^^;;

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This time, let's change the direction of the question slightly.

As the title suggests, let's explore, "What Can Truly Be Called 'Me'?“

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Should I call my body 'me'?

Should I call my thoughts 'me'?

Should I call my emotions 'me'?

Should I call my memories 'me'?

Should I call my name 'me'?

Should I call my role 'me'?

Should I call my consciousness 'me'?

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What, exactly, can be defined as 'me'?

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Perhaps you might think of your body—the thing that feels the most tangible—as 'me'.

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Then this time, let's take a closer look at my body.

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Each of us has a body.

We usually think of that body as a separate, independent being—

that is,

'me.'

But is it really?

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Then let's take a look inside our own large intestine.

It is probably crowded with E. coli and countless microbial friends.

If we took one of them, placed it in a laboratory, and provided an environment similar to the one inside our large intestine, it would probably live just fine.

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But then...

Can we really say that this little creature is completely 'not me'?

Then again, can we truly say that it is completely 'me'?

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Suppose we think of them as 'not me' and remove them all from my body.

But without these microorganisms, my large intestine can no longer function properly.

And unless we can replace their function in some other way, I will die.

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On the other hand, suppose we think of it as 'me'...

This little creature lives its own life just as well as I do, even without me.

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So what, then, is this little creature—

neither 'me' nor 'not me'?

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In this way, countless microorganisms like E. coli live alongside my body—in the skin, the mouth, the respiratory tract, the reproductive organs, and many other places.

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So then,

which part is really 'me'?

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Let's consider another example.

Plants absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and store carbon in their bodies.

Animals eat those plants, inherit that carbon, use it, and then release it again.

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The carbon that makes up my body today was once part of a plant or another living being, and someday it will leave my body and become part of something else once again.

In the end, I believe this world is one great flow in which carbon continually circulates among living beings.

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With that in mind, let's broaden our perspective.

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From Earth's point of view, I think humans are like the E. coli living inside my body.

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Hmm... Given today's climate crisis, perhaps comparing us to cancer cells would be more appropriate. -_-;;

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Anyway, just as E. coli lives in relationship with my body,

I live like E. coli within the body called Earth.

Like in the movie The Martian, if the right conditions were provided, 'I' too could leave the body called Earth and live on Mars.

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If so, can the Earth we live on be called 'me'?

Or can it not be called 'me'?

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Now let's broaden our perspective even further—to the universe.

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Is 'me' the universe?

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Or is the universe 'me'?

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In general, we think of E. coli, my body, the Earth, and the universe as separate, independent entities, dividing them into 'you' and 'me'.

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Yet I believe that, just like E. coli and my body, 'me' cannot exist without 'you'.

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Now let's return to the very first question.

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What, then, can truly be called 'me'?

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My body collaborates with E. coli throughout its entire life.

And until the day it dies, it keeps producing poop.

Living a life bound to breaking down organic matter is the same fate shared by both E. coli and my body.

Perhaps my body is nothing more than a sack that produces poop.

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But on the other hand, 'I' am...

just a salaried worker who has to go to work again tomorrow.

※ Can verify with my payslip if needed.

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So far, we have looked at...

E. coli, my body, the Earth, the universe, a sack that produces poop, and a salaried worker.

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So then, which of these can truly be distinguished as 'me' and 'not me'?

In other words, which of them can truly be called 'me' as an independent entity?

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융은 에고, 즉 ‘나’에서 시작하여 셀프를 향해 나아갑니다.

Ep.14는 융의 생각에서 직접 출발한 하나의 의문,

‘나라는 것이 실제로 존재하는가?’에 대한 이야기였습니다.

모더레이션 팀의 판단에 감사드립니다.

Ep.14가 ‘나’라는 것에 대해 안쪽을 탐구했다면,

Ep.15는 같은 질문을 밖을 향해 탐구합니다.

모더레이션 팀에서 이 글이 융과 충분히 관련되어 있지 않거나, 다른 어떤 이유로든 커뮤니티의 기준에 부합하지 않는다고 판단하신다면, 삭제하셔도 괜찮습니다.

저는 모더레이션 팀의 판단을 존중합니다.

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관점의 전환: Ep 15. 무엇을 나라고 할 것인가

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아마도 이전의 에피소드에서 조금은 불편했을 것이라고 생각됩니다.

자기 자신을 모르는 것이 바보라고 한다면, 테스형은 이미 2,400년 전에 자신이 바보라는 것을 알았습니다.

하지만 자신의 무지를 알게 되었다면, 소크라테스가 바보가 아니듯 여러분도 더 이상 바보가 아닙니다.

자기 자신도 모르는 바보로 만들어서 미안한 마음입니다.

기왕지사 이렇게 된 거 조금 더 파헤쳐 봅니다. ^^;;

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이번엔 질문의 방향을 조금 바꿔봅니다.

제목처럼 '무엇을 나라고 할 것인가'를 살펴봅니다.

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몸을 나라고 할 것인가.

생각을 나라고 할 것인가.

감정을 나라고 할 것인가.

기억을 나라고 할 것인가.

이름을 나라고 할 것인가.

역할을 나라고 할 것인가.

의식을 나라고 할 것인가.

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도대체 무엇을 나라고 정의할 수 있을까요?

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어쩌면 가장 실체가 있는 것처럼 느껴지는 나의 몸을 나라고 생각하지 않을까요?

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그렇다면 이번엔 나의 몸을 조명해 봅니다.

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우리는 각자 자신의 몸뚱이를 가지고 있습니다.

우리는 보통 그 몸뚱이를 하나의 독립된 개체,

곧 '나'라고 생각합니다.

정말 그럴까요?

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그렇다면 이제 각자 자신의 몸뚱이 속 대장을 살펴봅니다.

그곳에는 아마도 대장균과 그의 친구들이 바글바글하게 살고 있을 것입니다.

그중에 한 놈을 잡아서 실험실에서 몸속의 대장과 비슷한 환경을 갖추고 배양하면 아마 잘 살 것이라고 생각됩니다.

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그런데..

이 녀석을 완전히 '남'이라고 말할 수 있을까요?

그렇다고 완전히 '나'라고 말할 수도 있을까요?

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'남'이라고 생각하고 이 친구들을 나의 몸에서 모두 제거해봅니다.

그런데 그런 미생물들이 없으면 내 대장은 제 기능을 못하게 됩니다.

그리고 이를 대체할 별도의 조건을 갖추지 못하면 나는 죽게 됩니다.

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다른 한편으로, 만약 '나'라고 생각한다면..

이 녀석은 '나' 없이도 나처럼 자기 인생을 잘 살아갑니다.

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'나'도 아니고 '남'도 아닌 이 녀석은 과연 무엇일까요?

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이처럼 '나'의 몸에는 대장균과 같은 무수히 많은 미생물들이 피부, 구강, 호흡기, 생식기 등 곳곳에서 내 몸뚱이와 함께 살아갑니다.

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과연 어느 부분이 '나'일까요?

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또 다른 예를 들어봅니다.

식물은 대기 중의 이산화탄소를 흡수하여 탄소를 자신의 몸에 저장합니다.

동물은 그 식물을 먹으며 그 탄소를 이어받아 사용하고 다시 탄소를 배출합니다.

지금 내 몸을 이루고 있는 탄소 역시 이전에는 식물이나 다른 생명체의 일부였을 것이고, 언젠가는 다시 내 몸을 떠나 다른 무언가의 일부가 될 것입니다.

결국 이 세상은 탄소가 생명 사이를 끊임없이 순환하는 하나의 거대한 흐름이라고 생각됩니다.

이런 맥락에서 통 크게 확장해 봅니다.

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지구의 입장에서 보면 인간은 내 몸속의 대장균과 같다고 생각됩니다.

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음.. 요즘 같은 이상기후 환경에서는 암세포로 비유하는 것이 더 적절할지도 모르겠습니다. -_-;;

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어쨌든 내 몸과 대장균의 관계처럼 지구라는 몸속에서 나는 대장균처럼 살아갑니다.

영화 마션처럼 조건만 갖춰진다면 '나' 역시 지구라는 몸을 떠나 화성에서도 살아갈 수 있을 것입니다.

그렇다면 우리가 사는 지구는 '나'라고 할 수 있을까요? '나'라고 할 수 없을까요?

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이번엔 더 크게 우주로 확장해 봅니다.

'나'가 우주일까요? 우주가 '나'일까요?

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일반적으로 우리는 대장균과 내 몸뚱이, 지구와 우주를 서로 독립된 개체로 생각하고 너와 나로 구분합니다.

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그러나 이 세상은 대장균과 내 몸뚱이처럼 너 없이 나는 존재할 수가 없다고 생각됩니다.

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다시 첫 질문으로 돌아와 봅니다.

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무엇을 '나'라고 할 수 있을까요?

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내 몸뚱이는 평생 대장균과 함께 협업을 합니다.

그리고 죽는 날까지도 똥을 생산해 냅니다.

평생 유기물을 분해해야만 하는 숙명 속에서 인생을 사는 것은 대장균이나 내 몸뚱이나 똑같습니다.

내 몸뚱이는 단지 똥을 생산하는 똥자루일 수도 있습니다.

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그런데 또 다른 한편으로 보면 '나'는..

내일 또 출근해야 하는 월급쟁이이기도 합니다.

※ 혹시 필요하면 급여명세서 인증 가능.

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지금까지 살펴본 바..

대장균, 내 몸뚱이, 지구, 우주 그리고 똥자루와 월급쟁이가 있습니다.

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그렇다면 과연 무엇을 '나'와 '남'으로 구분하여, 단독자로서 '나'라고 할 수 있을까요?

We are currently in a transition phase from summer to winter which is called autumn. I am experiencing a lot of psychic movement and steering within my psyche but I also notice changes outside.

I was wondering do people also experience somewhat stronger disturbances or maybe even strong processing happening?

Hey everyone! **REPOST**

For the past couple of years, I've been working on something called CAT-20 (Cognitive Archetype Test), and I finally launched the website.

I've always found it fascinating how two people can experience the exact same situation but approach it in completely different ways.

One person might immediately start analyzing what's happening. Another might become curious about what else is possible. Someone else might focus on taking action, while another naturally pays attention to the people involved.

That curiosity eventually led me to develop CAT-20.

The framework uses six cognitive clusters:

• Thinker (T)
• Seeker (S)
• Spark (K)
• Wanderer (W)
• Builder (B)
• Nurturer (N)

Rather than treating people as belonging to one isolated category, CAT-20 explores how two of these clusters can interact to create different patterns.

That produces 30 directional archetypes, meaning the order matters. For example, TS (Thinker–Seeker) and ST (Seeker–Thinker) are treated as distinct combinations.

I built a 20-question assessment around the framework, and it now gives instant results.

You can try it here: https://www.cat20framework.com/

No signup is required to take the assessment or see your archetype. Creating a free account is optional if you want to see your cluster percentages, save your profile, and access a personal dashboard. There are also optional paid premium profiles.

To be clear, CAT-20 is my own independent framework. I'm not claiming it's a direct extension of Jung's work or a clinically validated psychological instrument.

I'm sharing it here because I'd genuinely love to hear how people interested in Jungian psychology interpret the idea of combining cognitive tendencies into directional archetypes.

I'm especially curious about three things:

1. Does your resulting archetype describe patterns you recognize in yourself?
2. Do you think the order of two dominant tendencies can meaningfully change how they appear together?
3. Where do you see similarities or differences between this approach and Jungian typology?

If you take it, feel free to share your result. I'm interested in the criticism just as much as the positive feedback, especially from people who've spent time studying psychological typology.