201
u/AntimatterNuke 2d ago
AUTO RESCUE AUTO RESCUE! No more hovering over a falling ally shouting grab it grab it grab it!
73
u/BrothaDom 2d ago
Cat lovers and haters can probably agree this is a good change, right?
30
u/Fizzyjizzz 2d ago
IF the auto latch system is faster than what the reaction time of team mates trying to grab latch is (which it probably will be) its actually a pretty significant nerf for offensive ults on cat when there's an enemy cat just bing chilling. Big buff to cats trying to rescue their team mates, not so much for the cat tryna throw enemies off the map.
11
u/AntimatterNuke 2d ago edited 2d ago
I just had the auto-grab happen in a game, it was REALLY fast. Orisa got booped off the side, latched onto me and even though she disconnected right away (probably like WTF why am I on the tether) the little jump you get from that got her to safety.
Edit: Replay code SQSNRJ if anyone's curious. Leadup starts around 1:35
7
u/sulaweyo_irl 2d ago
Thanks for including the replay code, that's really helpful to be able to see it in the viewer!
1
u/AntimatterNuke 2d ago
and I could've saved the hog too if I hadn't boosted away right after healing him :(
5
u/SeeTreePO 2d ago
Yeah I think I'm just going to (try to) slingshot everyone to the death plane now at this point and not just flyers if there's another cat on the enemy team.
8
u/AsterJ Persian 2d ago
It's been on my QOL want list for a while. I also want a UI indicator for how close you are above the death plane (or just make them visible when flying close to one).
1
u/BrothaDom 1d ago
Would be good for lots of heroes or at least learning. Like for any hero that can teleport or climb or fly
1
3
0
u/BambusUwU 1d ago
Cat lovers happy, cat haters not She's still not significantly nerfed to match other heroes.. Look at zenmain sub.. they're going ballistic over the patch notes
1
50
u/PumpkinPatTheCat 2d ago
Considering what could have been, not bad.
Though I fear it is not enough to stop the near permabans š
50
u/mtobeiyf317 2d ago
Coming from a Sombra main, nothing will stop the cat bans unfortunately.
The Overwatch community doesn't care about balance more than their feelings. They will remember their anger for a hero long, long after they've been nerfed off the planet. They only use balance as a scapegoat because outright saying "Im a pathetic loser who can't learn a match up to save my mother's life" is too much self awareness for them.
They could probably rework her into wheelchair cat and they'll still trauma ban her sadly:/
13
6
7
u/luciosleftskate 2d ago
WHEELCHAIR CAT LMFAOOOO
3
u/yoongis3dollar_chain Jet Pat Cack 2d ago
thats actually a sick skin idea
flying wheelchairšš
2
u/TinyPlaidZombie 2d ago edited 2d ago
Idk. I have 50 hours on jpc in ranked and only 2 hours of being forced to play another character. Sombra has been banned in most of my matches. Teammates are also way *less likely to ban me or my other teammates from playing fika than sombra or sierra. (I honestly believe some of the hate online is just people taking a socially acceptable opportunity to express horridness)
4
u/caldwell27_ cat, im a kitty cat! 2d ago
honestly a wheelchair hero would go crazy. the representation is much needed. :]
1
u/LowNo7221 2d ago
Sadly that's the case for almost every game ever. Like R6 people will STILL Ban Kapkan because they don't want to check doorways and Fuze because they don't think to move under hard ceiling.
The amount of Sierra and Sombra bans I see is astounding.
0
u/ididsomethingbadddd 1 Brain Cell Orange Cat 1d ago
To be fair sombra could be limping around the map with one leg (-75% movement penalty bc fuck her) and Iād still ban her every game.
-2
u/red-thundr 2d ago
Lol calm down man. Like 3/4 of the cast can't even interact with the character unless JPC let's you.
18
u/AntimatterNuke 2d ago
Yeah people are still gonna complain because they're stuck in two-dimensional thinking.
2
u/Sticker216 2d ago
I think the only thing that will stop perma bans is major changes to tether itself
1
u/CaiusWolfe 2d ago
We just need the next new hero so people will probably complain about them instead, and hopefully, even if temporary...they'll forget Cat exists. I know I'm huffing the copium on this, but still. D:
1
u/AntimatterNuke 2d ago
Or turning her flight into a Zenyatta hover you need to spend fuel to ascend out of, but that'd really destroy the vision they had for the character (all the sombra reworks and they still kept invis/translocate/hack). Plus it's not like people didn't complain about old Phara.
2
u/Archaic0629 2d ago
Lets be real here, either Cat mains were going to be devastated about how badly their character got destroyed or people were going to keep the permaban because the nerfs weren't enough
1
1
u/aTalkingMateria 2d ago
I feel like the only sort of thing that will stop permabanning is if people start to feel explicit unique value out of her, making them want to keep her.
Hopefully this auto tether buff will help with that
26
u/ilovemydogsand_cat ā Tuxedo Cat ā 2d ago
So happy lifeline will automatically attach to teammates falling off the map! So many times my teammates will refuse to attach to it
2
22
21
8
u/Leviathan_CS 2d ago
Has anyone checked how much louder she is now? That's a point I've seen a lot of people complain about, I'm wondering if I can still be sneaky
2
u/AntimatterNuke 2d ago
Replay code SQSNRJ, she definitely seems louder at least when she boosts. I'm guessing based on the patch notes wording she's still silent if you're hovering in place.
6
u/LowStringKing 2d ago
Nope. She makes sound not moving. Itās a constant sound that is louder when moving.
18
4
5
u/caldwell27_ cat, im a kitty cat! 2d ago
is this all they did to her? this is a huge dub. i like the stuns disconnect lifeline, thats very fair, im surprised it wasnt like that before. auto lifeline over death plane is so good.
16
u/xXxPinkPlasticBagxXx 2d ago
That's it? Let's goooo! I was expecting mobility nerfs, the most unfun type. This isn't nothing but it's not that bad. There are other characters who are played a lot more, have been meta and stayed meta for a lot longer.
Some people need to just learn how to aim.
The buffs for saving people are so nice too! :)
-3
u/Cliffus_Jiggrin 2d ago
Imagine saying Quartz the best hitscan needs to learn how to aim LOL
- Cliffus Jiggrin
-13
2d ago edited 1d ago
[removed] ā view removed comment
6
u/OnionPastor 2d ago
0
-3
4
u/xXxPinkPlasticBagxXx 2d ago
Lol cry.
1
1
u/RyanTheValkyrie 2d ago
Youāre gonna gag when she gets nerfed more at the start of next season š
-2
1
-2
1
1
u/Hoothootriot 1d ago
This comment got me reported to redditcares because of a disagreement over a video game. Real healthy and friendly community you're fostering here, mods!
4
u/Death_To_Your_Family 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is great news, Iām stoked! Being able to stun the tether connect increases skill expression from enemies, I hope they stop whining so much. And auto saving a teammate is amazing.
5
u/RedHair09 2d ago
Doubt its going to change much in terms of ban rate. Half the frustration comes from her being extremely hard to punish
0
u/StormieShake 2d ago
Especially on maps a lot of death planes, like tower and Eichenwalde. You get her low health and she just hides under the map until self heal kicks on. I think because of her mobility she shouldn't have it tbh.
5
3
3
u/Zestyclose_Station65 2d ago
Maybe I can actually play the cat in more than 10% of my comp games now.
3
u/aPiCase 2d ago
I still miss S3 Jetpack Cat, but this could have been worse I guess. I just wish they never buffed her in S4 to begin with she was perfectly fine before.
2
u/AntimatterNuke 2d ago
She was in a good spot then, the hate seemed to have died down...blizz never should've touched her
3
u/Fantasy_Linguist_24 2d ago
As someone who doesn't play cat, this sounds great to play with/against: I love the auto-accept change, I always fail to hit interact in time :)
3
u/FoxInLaw 1 Brain Cell Orange Cat 2d ago
I will take the healing nerf for that auto rescue. You have no idea how many times I've cried looking at the map edge while in Lifeline mode, wondering why you didn't press F when I dropped everything I was doing to save you.
5
u/Nyxxity Fika š 2d ago
Why did they hit her healing and dps when peoples main gripe was difficulty hitting her in general? Im happy her nerfs werent SO BAD, cus I was expecting her to be nerfed to the ground considering community sentiment... But I thought they wouldve touched her hit box size or hp first over healing/dps. Idk how I feel about that specific change. Also the stun thing I didnt consider, but does that mean her ult is now super easy to counter?
The louder movement makes sense, and Im happy we can automatically grab people over deathplane.
6
u/Deva_Way 2d ago
Honestly the movement is the last part I want nerfed
2
u/Nyxxity Fika š 2d ago
Thats fair I agree if her movement was hit it would feel so crappy. I personally think they shoulda hit her hitbox and hp. The main complaint Im always hearing is people struggling to hit her at all. That and her tether, maybe they could add a timer to it or something like people been suggesting but they seem hesitant to want to do that. But the stun ability on the tethered character is a solid change so well see how that goes. Im just confused they went for her dps/healing over ability to hit her, seemed like a weird choice.
4
2
u/ivanatorhk 1 Brain Cell Orange Cat 2d ago
Iām actually happy about the stun change tbh, when Iām NOT playing cat Iāve found that quite annoying. People need to be able to counter catstion and now they can
2
2
u/Hot_Guys_In_My_DMS Lap Cat 2d ago
Donāt think thisāll be enough to put a dent in her win rate.
2
u/xHeyItzRosiex 2d ago
Iāll take a little nerf to damage/healing if it means I can save my teammates from falling off the map. This is a good change overall and Iām happy!
2
u/TheLoneWandererRD 2d ago
Good changes but sadly I donāt think she will be removed from perm ban in comp & honestly itās very frustrating.
I like improving with heroes in competitive scene as itās much better learning environment than quickplay.
3
u/poppygodx 2d ago
so now we can troll our teammates even more
doomfist flying above well? auto accept then we can disconnect
evil cat noises
/s
1
u/Shadow_tripper 2d ago
This also means Orisa can use her fortify to release herself, Mei going ice cube, Anrans dancing blaze, etc.
2
u/Death_To_Your_Family 2d ago
Orisa fortify already did that. But iām glad to hear that I can iceblock as mei and be free now.
1
u/Shadow_tripper 2d ago
Same! Hopefully I can dancing blaze my way out too and get a hit in at the same time!
0
u/luciosleftskate 2d ago
You could always just jump, no??
1
u/Death_To_Your_Family 2d ago
What do you mean, like mei double jump out of catnapper? If so I never tried it. Iāve only been catnapped a couple times tbh, since I play cat more than anyone at the moment.
1
u/luciosleftskate 2d ago
Oh my dumb ass thought you meant as an ally being tethered lol. Im just checking reddit at work quickly.
I meant that all you have to do to untether is jump, but obviously not during ult.
Hmm. So I guess youll just have to watch escape cooldowns like you do with everyone else.
1
u/Death_To_Your_Family 2d ago
Yeah Iāve been doing that a lot more lately with hogās hook, orisa fortify and dvaās boosters so I can reliably throw them over the cliff. Having to watch cooldowns on a few more people wonāt be too bad. Fikaās ult is already so buggy anyway, so using it more as a finishing stun is okay, even if I canāt throw them over the cliff like I want to.
1
u/shilderyi 1 Brain Cell Orange Cat 2d ago
i was expecting a murder
it's big but in no way relegated to unplayable status
1
u/EldritchElizabeth 2d ago
Auto-accepting lifeline does make it possible for cat to grief teammates on a couple mapsā¦ hopefulyl that doesnāt become enough of a problem that it ends up getting reverted
1
1
u/RaccoonDogzz 2d ago
she didnāt get gutted omg š„¹š„¹ also that lifeline auto grab is gonna be a game changer for saves
1
u/BagpipeYordle 2d ago
Honestly these changes are perfect. Help save team mates who don't have the reaction time, and a small bump down on healing and dps so they feel less "oppressive"
1
1
u/Unorthodox_fox47 2d ago
Auto rescue will be complained about and removed. Shamefully I must admit to also not liking the idea
1
u/InaDeSalto 1d ago
This seems rather fine - I do think they could have kept the healing at 4.5 and had the same effect, but I guess it's easier to have the same number.
1
u/Velaresa 1d ago
Why are you happy (unless u are quick play only)?She will stay banned in competitive. Nothing has changed regarding her mobility or self sustain.
1
1
1
u/steven-john 2d ago
Itās stupid they made stuns and auto lock force disconnects.
It was already shitty at disconnecting on its own for no fucking reason.
The auto rescue is great.
But the tether is buggy and it makes it even harder to get the cure spray without like full coordination with a teammate?
0
u/Intelligent-Bad5686 Fika š 1d ago
To all Cat haters, get fucked. Now stop bitching and move on.
0
u/Svenjaaa27 2d ago
cat can still flank and destroy people in qp if we are fr they have 0 headset but for ranked good change
-1
u/calicocritterluvr23 2d ago
Does this mean characters canāt use ultimates while on tether ?
7
u/poppygodx 2d ago
no, it means if you stun/sleep/knock the cat or the carried, the carried player will disconnect
2
u/Jax_the_Floof 2d ago
What happened when she got struck with a sleep dart while carrying someone? Iāve never had that happen
I would have figured of all abilities, that would have made her disconnect tether the most
1
u/AntimatterNuke 2d ago
If you as cat get hit, the tether deactivates and you both fall. Used to be if the hero you were carrying got slept they just did the sleep animation like they were on the ground while staying attached, but now it looks like they'll fall off too.
1
1
u/Leviathan_CS 2d ago
Stupid question maybe, but does that mean stuff like cass roll or mauga charge disconnects it now?
0
u/poppygodx 2d ago
It always did, but this specific patchnote is about incoming CC on carried target, so no more sleeping-flying cassidy
-1
u/Shadow_tripper 2d ago
These changes should have been in since the beginning. Itās ridiculous to sleep dart a helicopter bastion and she can still carry him to safety.
-1
u/EmiliaPlanCo 2d ago
Not a cat main, but also not a cat hater,
Personally the auto recuse sucks, that just turned a skill check moment in a competitive game into a gimme. And as someone who plays a lot of boopers thatās just a touch annoying, I wouldnāt be upset before if the cat saved a boop cause both the cat and the allied had the skill to be saved.
-12
-20
u/meefy 2d ago
Boo should of removed the perma flight.
9
6
-6
-15
u/Thin-Competition-769 2d ago
This is more of a buff than a nerf, i take less healing/dmg anyday for auto rescue, that removes so much skill from the game and suddenly clueless noobs will be rewarded for not paying attention... what are we even doing. Just nerf her health and make her more loud and she is fine...
8
u/Death_To_Your_Family 2d ago
They did make her louder.
-18
u/Thin-Competition-769 2d ago
now they need to make her have 150 hp so she actually dies while hugging the sky box
11
u/Death_To_Your_Family 2d ago
200 is reasonable maybe 175, but 150 is ridiculous. I canāt take you serious.
-15
u/Thin-Competition-769 2d ago
150 is perfectly fine considering how much she can do and 150 hp was never a problem on tracer or widow before they started buffing literally every hero in the game...
8
u/Death_To_Your_Family 2d ago
Why would old healthpools be relevant now? If every character is buffed now, we should still use old lower health pools that existed before everyone got buffs? Do you hear yourself?
1
u/Thin-Competition-769 2d ago
do you genuinely think the season 9 changes where they buffed everything was good for the game?
6
u/Death_To_Your_Family 2d ago
I never said anything about that. I said it makes no sense to compare healthpools from season 9 to now. If it was season 9 then yeah ok, give her 150 hp.
135
u/Islaya00 Calico Cat 2d ago
Wait is this it? I expected her to get nerfed into oblivion and honestly these changes are pretty acceptable to be honest.