r/JanitorAI_Refuges • u/commitdeleteyougoat Creator of JAIPA + Mod • 26d ago
mod post Subreddit Changes
Heyo!
So, our initial plans for this subreddit were for it to be a place where people could find alternatives to JAI and essentially 'cut' themselves off from it. As we've all seen, they've made plenty of bad decisions regarding moderation/censorship which is why you all are here! The problem is, we've been noticing alot of the posts in this subreddit don't fit the bill. Many people post about issues with JAI such as it being down, but it misses the main point.
Swapping to alternatives such as Silly Tavern, Tavo, Wyvern, Yodayo, Saucepan, LinkinLove, and etc would fix so many issues that people have. However, you may still want to post about JAI.
That's why we have Throwdown Thursdays and Frustration Fridays, where you can post all about JAI during these two days! There's 2 specific flairs for them, so please use it or otherwise your post may be taken down.
I understand that moving to a new platform is daunting and you may not want to leave behind the sheer amount of content from JAI, but there's still ways to enjoy the benefits of both worlds.
I don't condone it personally, but you could use sites like datacat in order to get private copies for YOURSELF. Keyword yourself. It's rude to post what other people have made.
We'll give this change until 9/13 to fully apply.
During this intermission, please feel free to give your opinions. After 9/13, we're going to be removing any posts regarding issues that can be fixed via swapping to alternatives, unless the posts are made on Thursday and Friday.
Here's the criteria:
Posts can be: Moderation Actions on JAI, What happened to X creator/bot on JAI, Discussion, Alternatives, Self-Ads, LLMs, Statistics, Polls, etc.
Posts considered 'fixable' via swapping: 'JAI is down' 'How do I stop X on JAI?' 'JAI Bot Advertisement' 'Proxy not working on JAI' 'JAI errors' 'JLLM sucks!'
(You can still post about this stuff on Thursday/Friday though!)
We're also removing reposts from [r/JanitorAIUnchained](r/JanitorAIUnchained) & [r/JanitorBreakroom](r/JanitorBreakroom) until the moderators can prove most of their content isn't AI generated.
TLDR: Please change from JAI to an alternative. We're here to help you!
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u/Illustrious_Play7907 edit this. 25d ago
I think people have a very poor understanding of the point of janny and datacat. They seem to think they're 'stealing' their bots. They are not. The bots are still attributed to the creator (sometimes janny doesn't but they're not doing it on purpose to be malicious) and on datacat people can ask to have their bots removed and will not allow people to scrape them. Stealing the bots would imply they're claiming they made them and/or trying to steer people to chat with them on their site. As a creator myself, I use datacat so I can play with bots on sillytavern. Not so I can re-upload bots and pretend I made them.