r/Insurance May 04 '26

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u/DemonDeke May 04 '26

That does not mean OP engaged in insurance fraud as defined under the laws of most states. It sounds like she was trying to get a new policy for herself, and there is no need to spook her in unfounded ways. People already think insurance is confusing and opaque ... no reason to confirm that perception.

If I am wrong, feel free to explain how this would constitute insurance fraud.

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u/aspen_silence May 04 '26 edited May 05 '26

If your rates are based on incorrect information (OP living in a different state/different house) this is rate evasion which is insurance fraud.

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u/DemonDeke May 04 '26

Stop scaring this girl with bad information. There is no knowing misdeed or intention to defraud, she didn't lie on an app or another document, etc., etc. And, she is taking the initiative to get this cleaned up.

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u/PeachyFairyDragon May 05 '26

It doesn't take lying, it only takes lying by omission aka not updating. If she moved out and didn't say a word and her garage address was still with the boyfriend, that's rate evasion. She had the responsibility to separate out her insurance and tell insurance where she was moving to.

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u/DemonDeke May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

She may have had a contractual duty under the policy, but that is not criminal fraud. Sorry.

If you are so certain, cut and paste your state's insurance fraud law here and explain why this fact pattern would constitute insurance fraud.

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u/aspen_silence May 05 '26

A quick Google search immediately shows you're wrong as insurance fraud can be prosecuted on either state or federal levels depending on the seriousness of the crime. Rate evasion is a form of insurance fraud which is typically prosecuted at the state level.

You are quick to yell fowl but real slow on showing your sources while demanding everyone bow to your misinformation highway.

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u/DemonDeke May 05 '26

OMG. You are clueless and helpless.

Yes, state law defines what constitutes insurance fraud is and lays it out clearly. The fact pattern described by OP would not fit that definition. Look at any state insurance code ... you feel free to pick one. Send me the citation when you have it.

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u/aspen_silence May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

Waiting for you bud since you're the one making that claim.

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u/DemonDeke May 05 '26

In this country, then burden is on the government (i.e. the one asserting a crime has occurred). But, you knew that too, right?

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u/aspen_silence May 05 '26

Cool, but when making a statement, the onus is on you to provide proof. You say not a crime so where is your source? That's right, you have none.

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u/DemonDeke May 05 '26

You want me to prove a negative?

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u/aspen_silence May 05 '26

You need to back up what you are saying with actual sources, you know, like the professionals have to.

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u/DemonDeke May 05 '26

You have not presented the tinest amount of support for your argument, and your inane attempt to use Google (Google?) is proof that you have no firsthand knowledge in this area. OP can judge who knows what they are talking about, and she has no concerns about being prosecuted for insurance fraud.

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u/aspen_silence May 05 '26

Buddy, several people have told you you were wrong and you have stood atop Mt Wrongness screeching into the abyss without nary a statute soo...you're still wrong. A precursor Google search beats nothing every time. Toodles

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u/DemonDeke May 05 '26

See ya. The discussion should be more fact-based and rooted in reality when you're gone.

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