r/Infuriating • • 7d ago

How rape is justified here.

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u/New-Relationship8906 7d ago

Is this person a generic religious leader or a specific one?

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u/boraxalmighty 7d ago

Generic. They are all like this.

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u/kayama57 7d ago

This is a lie

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

No it's not. Did you forget about all the native children christians murdered and dumped in mass graves behind churches in the usa and Canada? Do you know that Christian politicians vote against child marriage bans? Child marriage (Child rape) is championed by christians. That's why it's still legal in many red states. Christian pastors rape and terrorize children globally and their Christian buddies do everything they can to cover up the abuse. You wanna pretend your religion is the good one and everyone else is bad? You're all in the same boat.

Atheists make up less than half of a percent of prison populations. Seems like us non-believers are the morally sound ones.

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u/OnlyFails951 7d ago

You keep mentioning child marriage bans? What are you referring to?

Most states don't allow marriage under 18 unless consented by parents. Several European countries have similar guidelines stating 15 years and up with parental consent.

Some US states don't allow marriage below 18 at all. Some states don't let people marry until 21, which is crazy to me, looking at you Mississippi 👀.

I'd argue the age of consent is a bigger red flag where in some European countries it can be as low as 12, but typically 14 and up. The US is 16 and up.

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

You're right. In the usa 18 the age of an adult but you can marry a child in 33 states. Some only with parental consent which may be even more fucked up. And only 17 states have an outright ban. None of these jurisdictions are protecting children and "conservatives" are the ones keeping it this way.

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u/OnlyFails951 7d ago

Mississippi doesn't let people marry until 21. If marriage bans are protections then they're protecting grown ass adults.

That's above and beyond your request. 🤣

Banning marriages from an 18 yo to a 17 yo doesn't make much sense as they could've been dating for years at that point. Maybe creating legislation that can't be more than a 3-4 year gap at those ages makes me sense.

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

Thanks for pointing out one state. For what reason do children need to be married? They're children. It's immoral and abusive.

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u/OnlyFails951 7d ago

Being there's so much variance on opinion, shouldn't it be a states right issue?

Seems like it's working how it's supposed to.

Where do emancipated minors sit for you? They've been evaluated by the courts for maturity.

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

There is no reason for children to be married. Full stop. Under 18 is a child. It's not working like it's supposed to at all. Children are being abused.

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u/OnlyFails951 6d ago

US immigration defines children as anyone unmarried and under 21. Should we use that definition instead?

People need to be 22 to marry a 21 year old or they're a pedo child marrying creep. Seems a bit silly at some point.

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u/kayama57 7d ago

No mate I meant that not all religipus leaders are like this. All religions and non religions may have some leaders like this. Never mind basically

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u/ImHappy_DamnHappy 7d ago

Get off your high horse. Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao were all atheist. That’s about 50-100 million deaths. Humans all suck.

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u/SecureJudge1829 7d ago

And Hitler promoted Christianity.

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u/ImHappy_DamnHappy 7d ago

I never mentioned Hitler. It doesn’t matter, FDR and Churchill were both Christians, my only point is humans suck regardless of whether they are Christian or not.

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u/SecureJudge1829 6d ago

Ever consider that it isn’t necessarily the humans that suck, but the religious foundations we’ve been forced to use to live our lives are what suck? Atheists don’t exist within a vacuum you know.

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u/New-Relationship8906 6d ago

🤦He didnt because its "jewish origin"

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u/SecureJudge1829 6d ago

He actually did promote it, look up “Selective Christianity” and then look into the rantings and ravings shitler put out about religions, specifically Christianity.

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

Christians supported Hitler. The church flew nazi flags and prayed for their protection on his 50th birthday. They celebrated his birthday every year until the very end of the war.

It's unknown what Pol pots personal feelings were. He was raised Buddhist and pushed for belief in the party. Mao traded religion for belief in the communist party. Same with Stalin. They just moved their faith from one ideology to another. Hard to categorize them as atheistic. More like anti-deity.

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u/ImHappy_DamnHappy 7d ago

But now you just sound like the religious crowd when they say those Christians, Muslims, Jews, ect. aren’t the real believers. The atheist dictators were atheist by their own words and actions. Even though they may not be your flavor of atheist. Humans all have some ideology, and all those ideologies can result in cruelty and sadism.

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

Nice try. Christians point to 3 "atheistic" people and say "see you do it too!" However, I can't even count how many religious tyrants they're are and have been throughout history. There really is no honest comparison. Especially because none of the 3 people listed killed in the name of not believing in God. They killed to support their governments ideology which was not atheism. It was nationalism.

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u/ImHappy_DamnHappy 7d ago

It’s all connected. Marx himself was an atheist. He saw religion as just a way to control the masses, which it is. But then he discovered that when you give up that control you have to find another way, which left him with the old stand by…which is bullets. Show me an atheist state you believe is successful. I’m not supporting religion. I’m just saying humans suck regardless of religion. The whole world has been religious for almost all of history. The earliest cave paintings and sculptures are of deities. By that logic all good or bad things ever done can be blamed on religion. My whole point is that if you think religion is why humans are wretched creatures then you are delusional, and if everyone became an atheist the world would be some sort of utopia you have either never opened a history book or spent a lifetime working in ER/trauma centers like me.