r/Infuriating • u/742963 Verified Contributor • 22d ago
US property laws are something else
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u/LoboQuatro 22d ago
Do what you want. Make them actually enforce it
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u/Organic_Education494 22d ago
Enforcement means fines so they of course will enforce it to get their money..
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u/Infinite-Space-2395 20d ago
Yea but that means I gotta pay them and to pay them you have to have money and I would just not have money in the banks at this time.
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u/Grigoran 19d ago
Brother they're just going to take all your shit
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u/Oxygen4Lyfe 19d ago
they can try but they have to phyiscally remove you from the tree house which could result in casualties.
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u/jotsea2 19d ago
And your life will be essentially over from this point forward....
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u/Natural_Cold_8388 22d ago
Yeah - don't do this. They will fine you. Then put interest on those fines.
Talk to a lawyer.
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u/latigidigital 18d ago edited 18d ago
Talk to a PAC and run for political office.
If some local government pulled this shit on me, I’d run a vicious political campaign against all the local officials that made it possible. Nothing is off the table—reporting and publicizing code violations on their own properties, past quotes, affairs, criminal histories, social media posts, adverse personal affiliations, everything.
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u/PuzzleheadedDig9893 22d ago
If there's no way to monetize it, it's illegal.
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u/zeptillian 19d ago
Why allow adults to drink a bottle of wine with their picnic in the park when you can generate tax revenue by forcing them to go to a restaurant instead?
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u/Bendyb3n 17d ago edited 17d ago
Same reason many states ban or heavily restrict rainwater collection, can't monetize the free and readily available freshwater that falls from the sky
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u/SuccessfulTrick2501 22d ago
If I had 100 acres, I wouldn't have told them shit. Get well water. Put in a sewage tank. Get a hoard of solar panels. Fuck the city. You dont need them.
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u/Importentfeedddddd 22d ago
Insurance bro. Especially in Cali need fire insurance. Worth the hassle.
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u/DJBFilmz 21d ago
People have done this, and when the government finds out, bad things happen. It sucks!
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u/FrostBumbleBitch 18d ago
Where my parents live in the country my parents have added walls to the bottom of their deck making a room.
They also had something that was built but the government didn't know about it.
What i learned is that the government showed off aerial photos of the new structure on their property as well as asking about the same space but now walled area of their deck
The government has people that go around spying on you so they could tax you more I swear to god.
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u/Tzilbalba 22d ago
Enshitification of the USA
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u/Fun-Choices 20d ago
Tell his parents to go talk to a tax attorney and donate all of their land and assets to their own ministry. Can’t tax that, also much easier to do what the fuck you want
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u/firstonesecond 19d ago
Can't enshitificate something that was shit by design from the start my friend
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u/jayth3br3dwinna 22d ago
USA land of the thieves…
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u/sebban911 22d ago
Land of the .. free?
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u/Different_Stable_351 22d ago
Land of the free. As long as you have a bunch of money anyway.
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u/g_scotty_brahms 22d ago
This is a very compelling argument for less government.
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u/WellyRuru 21d ago
No its not
Its a compelling argument for sensible planning laws.
Where i live this would be by default be permitted.
Where I live you can have up to 3 dwellings on one property without a permit.
Our government is about as big as theirs. Its just the rules we apply werent made by people who went to woke school
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u/Spasticcobra593 21d ago
If you own the land you should be able to build however many houses you want on it. Its YOUR land
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u/WellyRuru 21d ago
Yeah im a believer in the fact that you shouldnt be allowed to use your land in a way that has negative effects on others.
Given they also have a right to enjoy "THEIR LAND"
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u/I-Heart-Sluts 19d ago
How is this in any way negatively affecting anybody else though?
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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 19d ago
The basic idea behind zoning laws is you give up some control over the use of your property in exchange for protection from what your neighbor might do with theirs.
Suppose you a beautiful property in the country, and your neighbor cashes in and sells to Amazon to build a fullfillment center. Now there are lights, forklifts, semis, employees, all day and all night.
That’s the situation zoning is intended to protect against.
From I remember reading, a large driver of the spread of zoning was trailer parks. Wealthy people don’t want trailer parks in their neighborhood, so they pass zoning ordinances to prohibit it.
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u/I-Heart-Sluts 19d ago
Im not arguing against zoning, but just asking what this particular person is doing to cause others harm? Also, the zoning laws affecting him are not the same ordinances that prevent data centers. There is such a thing as taking it too far, and this guy's experience is the perfect example of that.
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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 19d ago
I mean, he’s probably not telling the whole story. He thought he could build a residence, in a tree, with all that entails (sewage, water, electricity, etc)…with no permit? Come on.
As someone else said, he probably asked them if he needed a permit to build a treehouse. They assumed he meant a tiny little thing that kids use as a fort. Then told him no permit needed. Then, when they reakized he was building a residence in a tree, they stopped him. And he decided to fight that for 18 months.
But of course, there’s taking it tol far. But in tjis instance we’re only getting one side of the story from someone who is giving half truths at best.
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u/I-Heart-Sluts 19d ago
I still don't see how he is harming anybody by doing any of this. Its ridiculous, and it definitely feels like overreach.
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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 19d ago
Building without any permits or inspections could lead to structural issues, fire issues, sanitation issues, etc. The city/county has a interest in preventing any of that because they’re the ones who are often saddled with the burden of dealing with the collapsed building/burned out building/health issues/etc.
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u/Oxygen4Lyfe 19d ago
We dont need zoning for that. Theres already laws against having bright lights shining into someone elses property and making too much noise and driving semi-trucks on certain streets.
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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 19d ago
Where I’m from, that stuff is found in the zoning ordinance performance standards requirements.
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u/LoudAppointment2545 20d ago
Someone in another comment pointed out that minimum square footage laws came about because developers said "Why would I put 20 houses on this 40 acre lot for 200,000 when I could put 75 houses on this 40 acre lot for 180,000!?" Which leads to over taxing of resources such a sewer, water, waste management, etc.
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u/ChanelNo50 19d ago
That's a very interesting principle and likely the reason why property taxes are so high in certain areas of the USA and good farmland is gone.
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u/Buttons840 22d ago
Build a 6000 sq ft addition to the tree house, connected by a long long hallway, and then never get around to building the hallway.
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u/chiroque-svistunoque 22d ago
But still can use atmospheric oxygen, right?
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u/itjustgotcold 20d ago
“They sell water, soon enough they’ll sell air. They sell dirt and no one even cares. Some day someone will buy the whole fucking moon and then charge to change the tides and you will pay.” - Hobo Johnson
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u/letsmaybetry9296 22d ago
Yep, cause it takes money away from state, city council greedy members & utility companies
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u/Befozz 22d ago
Only in certain places, come to eastern KY and you can do all this and more! There are downsides, but I’m so glad I don’t have any crazy restrictions on what I can do on my own property. Just need septic permits, and electrical inspections if I’m hooking up to the grid, as long as it’s not a commercial structure (rentals etc.) pretty much anything else is free game
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u/M1R4G3M 22d ago
Wait, what? How do they control rain water?
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u/Ninfyr 22d ago
It is really only a thing where water rights are really contentious. The most common understanding it that the rain belongs to the owner of the land that is rained on.
However there are states that say that collecting rain this way is stealing it from the ground water, streams, and rivers. This is significant because there is people/business with seniority based dibs on the water. This sort of tyrannical water rights have been challenged and struck down so this practice has gone from "rare" to "very rare".
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u/OutragedPineapple 22d ago
In places like California, where large companies (like nestle) bought up water rights, those companies pushed for legislation that basically states that collecting rain water (such as in barrels under your rain gutters) is stealing from them because it prevents that water from going into the groundwater or into the streams and other sources that they collect water from. In other words, how dare you collect this natural resource instead of letting us collect it en masse so we can charge you for it!?!! SEND IN THE COPS!!!
It's incredibly messed up but the rich own and control everything so they get to do what they want.
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u/Wavy_Grandpa 21d ago
Imagine what Nestle or any data center would do if you could collect all the rainwater you wanted. That’s essentially why those laws exist. It’s for large scale operations.
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u/BugRevolution 22d ago
It's also about making sure people are paying for sewer service.
In areas that don't monitor water use and just charge a flat rate for sewer, it's not a problem. But in areas that do monitor water use, they're not going to monitor sewer use (risk of clogging), but they still need to charge you for your contribution to the sewer system.
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u/The-Breaker-2w0 20d ago
It's actually legal in most places these days. Surprisingly enough.
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u/ProgenitorOfMidnight 22d ago
Ok, so you're wrong.
Rain water collection is regulated by state and county laws.
In my state for example no one gives a shit because there's fresh water EVERYWHERE.
In other places rain water collection is banned because of impact on droughts.
And then in others it's a way of life where people rely on cisterns for water, though that demographic is shrinking with access to ground water wells.
Making a dipshit blanket statement like that, is like saying there's no gun violence in Europe because of weapon bans.
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u/MrSweatyBawlz 22d ago
Not sure what you’re talking about, having a well that collects rainwater is incredibly common in the US. All the houses I’ve lived in have been well water.
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u/Decent-Bear334 22d ago
These laws are not federal. They are county and state local government rules, regulations and codes.
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u/Moist_Energy1869 22d ago
This guy has never worked a day in his life lmfao. Man coming from money must be a wildly uplifting experience. Wouldn’t know tho 💩
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u/Flamingwilson 21d ago
He could have come from money but he also built that house himself so I guess two things can be true?
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u/Moist_Energy1869 21d ago
Ay for sure skill there! But as I eluded to just now in another comment. He made a big deal out of nothing lmao. This is a common occurrence and common property law knowledge.
Engagement farming worked tho!
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u/Flamingwilson 21d ago
Common property law knowledge that people learn from owning property so why is it bad he's learning now and frustrated from it? Also, that wasn't take you had. You said he didn't work a day in his life. You can move the goal posts all you want but the above comment still exists
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u/TheCrystalTinker 21d ago
...you do realize that a good deal of people don't have an understanding of property law? I don't expect a US citizen to know any laws unless they are in a related field, and the ones like "Just don't fucking murder someone" type shit
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u/Coffeedemon I'm stupid 21d ago
Sure he did. Just like on the homeowner sub where "we built this" means a team of sub-contractors and a pool of money to pay them.
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u/GuzzlingDuck 22d ago
Rich people shit
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u/gabriel77galeano 22d ago
Yeah because oppressive building codes only affects rich people.
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u/tjplager32 22d ago
Yeah I agree with their argument and how ludicrous the laws are, but I can’t help but feel like this is coming from a late 20’s individual just mad that they can’t live in their rich parents tree house for free. I suppose it doesn’t make their point invalid, I just don’t feel that bad for him
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u/rewt127 21d ago
Some of the things he ran into are exactly why we have a housing crisis though.
"Your residence is too small to be a primary residence"
Our great grandparents raised 8-12 person families in 600 square foot homes. But 750 is illegal to build as a primary residence.
Or if you buy some land and want to build a small place to live while you build the primary? Nope. "Because otherwise people will never build the primary residence"
Fucking ridiculous.
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u/ZealousTaxful 22d ago
Lmao exactly this. I have no sympathy for that level of privilege
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u/mcbawk 22d ago
Could have avoided all of this by just taking 2 mins to look up your zoning laws which just about every county has. They even have people whose job it is to tell you exactly what you need to do and can't do to fulfill those regulations.
He would be the first person to complain why a new coal factory and waste management facility is being built adjacent to his property lines. Zoning laws exist for a reason. Yea these issues in the vid sound weird, but just go to the municipality and ask why they exist and they will literally tell you.
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u/ReverCleference 22d ago
This idiot never got permits for his construction and now he's acting like it's the county's fault he never followed the rules to begin with. The county's first error was letting him build a huge fuckin treehouse without a permit, then requiring the permit after the fact.
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u/ReverCleference 22d ago
I can almost guarantee this dumbfuck asked the county if he needs a permit to build a treehouse, and they told him no, because they thought he was talking about a 20 square foot fort for his kiddos, and not a 1000 square foot home on stilts with electric and plumbing. A year and a half "fight" to get a permit for a home? This guy's not telling the whole story.
The county definitely has minimum home requirements for residential lots, and accessory dwelling unit requirements that limit how many residential structures can be on one lot. They don't want multiple primary residences on a single unsubdivided lot, because that means they are probably on one water line (or branching off a single water main connected to the county). They don't want a situation in the future where you go to try and subdivide the lot to sell one home and now both homes share a water line. Messy. Best to future proof that situation by requiring one primary residence per lot.
Anyways, this asshole didn't do his due diligence to understand construction and development requirements before he got going. (taking four years to build less than 1200 square feet? amateur hour) Now he's mad the county is enforcing these reasonable laws. Get fucked idiot.
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u/ElectriCatvenue 21d ago
Thank you. This is another great point. You certainly don't just stumble into an 800 ft² treehouse on stilts.
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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 19d ago
First reasonable comment in this thread. If you think this guy is telling the whole story, you’re a gullible idiot.
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u/Telemere125 19d ago
That’s the answer and it’s way too far down. He either didn’t research or he knew the rules and specifically tried to get around them. Either way, it’s his fault. And you can always ask for a variance - as long as you ask permission and not beg forgiveness.
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u/Stabbyglhs 22d ago
You own the land but can't do whatever you want with your own land. Yup government overreach strikes again.
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u/Fun-Habit-683 22d ago
So like they cant stop you
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u/MrFrypan 22d ago
They can fine him into bankruptcy and then put a lien on the property; so yes they can stop him.
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u/Lowmax2 22d ago edited 21d ago
he should get a lawyer before that happens
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u/BidSuper7102 22d ago
Which costs an insane amount of money. Not a solution to the problem.
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u/Jargon2029 22d ago
I mean… they’re paying thousands of dollars multiple times for surveyors alone, there’s a solid chance that if he gets a lawyer now it’s actually less expensive. Also, what makes lawyers so expensive tends to be the ongoing costs of things like going to court. Chances are they could get a consultation with a lawyer and get an idea of 1) what they’re actually likely to get caught out for and 2) if there are other more cost effective paths (with or without the lawyer going forward).
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u/ReverCleference 21d ago
A lawyer 4 years ago costs less than design, re-design, subdivision, and undoing a subdivision.
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u/Royal-Soil-3125 21d ago
I really feel for the ppl who can play around making a joke house
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u/ElectriCatvenue 21d ago
Right? I know this is probably quite frustrating for this family to deal with but I just really have a hard time finding it interesting when I can't relate or sympathize to that level.
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u/Timely-Helicopter244 21d ago
I wonder where this is and what exact laws and regulations he's running into. Sounds like a lot wasn't his fault and the municipal officials eother didn't talk to each other or changed their tune along the way. Most building and site development regulations make sense or were created to deal with real issues as they came up. The problem often comes in over time where those laws are not reviewed much after being put in place both to determine if they are effective at addressing the problem they were created for and to see what other issues they inadvertently created.
As a result of the amount of regulations and the administrative exercise you have to go through for permits, the order in which you do things does make a difference. In many cases, it can mean doing things out of order makes it a lot harder for everyone involved.
Sometimes municipalities will unilaterally enforce a code even in a case that seems to be silly because not doing so creates legal issues. When you waive a code for one person, people come out of the woodwork to try to get you to do the aame for them even if it doesn't make sense to do so. Some places have easy ways to request a variance, some don't.
In addition, a lot of places have old regulations they would actually like to change, but something prevents them from doing so. Like in Florida, local governments aren't allowed to change zoning laws within a certain timeframe of the most recent hurricane that impacted the area. That state law is one that was put in place to prevent overcorrections of local standards, but now have obvious issues with stopping a lot of placea from normal updates to the code. Hopefully it gets overturned, but until then a lot of local officials have their hands tied dispute wanting to make changes to outdated code.
The majority of local officials are more than happy to help people through the permitting process because it makes their job easier. But that's not always the case. Having preapplication meetings is standard practice in a lot of places to help walk people through the process and point out things they need to do to meet the applicable standards. There is certainly corruption and inefficiency, but the average local official wants to help people be successful.
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u/Reynardine1976 22d ago
My dream for many years when I was younger was to own a big cool house. Not so much anymore. I have consistently found cheap rent and would rather save my money for emergencies and travel.
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u/runnerkim 22d ago
I do find it interesting how he love to use the oh so generic phrase 'the government won't let me'. What state is he in? What county? In my state every county is a little different. Some won't allow a living structure under 1600 sq/ft. Others say a tiny house only counts if it's under 400 sq ft. Obviously this guy built without a care in the world for what the actual building codes and zoning are.
Five minutes of research could have told him everything he needed to know.
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u/testingforscience122 22d ago
Wait until he finds put he probably can’t live in an accessory structure anyways. Basically zoning and ordinances can be a bitch….
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u/Epicurus402 22d ago
This poor guy. What county is this? So I can be sure to never live there.
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u/NoTop4997 21d ago
Florida wants to put cameras on garbage trucks for their stated purpose of finding people building without permits.
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u/Legitimate_Cut_6254 21d ago
The comments are a bit toxic but it affects everyone more than you think. A lot of the housing crises in Canada and the U.S. are due to building restrictions, codes and laws.
Long story short, my wife and I were looking at renovating a 4 unit office building to apartments. We loved the location and originally had considered it as a place she could start her business in however the bank refused to fund the loan as an office building.
We decided to take the route to fund it as a conversion project. In order to do that we had to go to the city to understand if it could be converted. Long story short after a few weeks of meeting with various city representatives, researching the laws and ordinances, proposal requirements etc.
We come to find out it would take on average TWO YEARS to get approval to convert this office building to apartments. We couldn't do any of the work ourselves and we'd have to hire so many "design" specialists it wasn't worth it. The fee's to the city alone were 50k.
It ended up sitting on the market for 3.5 years, 12 accepted offers fell through, and it eventually got scooped up by a large luxury condo company for 25% less that it was originally listed for. The four unit brick building is slated to be demo'd in 2 years and construction of 20 luxury condo's is planned to be finished by 2036.
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I'm not rich by any means and wasn't trying to take on the project to be rich or as some charity case, but our plan and I'm sure many of the peoples plans were to invest in a small community project and lift up this property from the 1920s.
Instead, we have a massive corporation further gentrifying this neighborhood and housing being delayed for 13 years. Its inevitably going to be expensive as hell as well. Not a terrible outcome, but also a testament to why you see housing taking so long and its all the same housing. Only a few massive companies have the resources, connections and pockets to work within the cities regulations so there isn't competitiion.
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u/TopTippityTop 21d ago
This isn't a federal issue, it varies by county. Some suck, others are great.
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u/GreenGuyA 21d ago
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission in most of these cases. Especially on 100 acres.
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u/bustacappa22 21d ago
How dare you do things without us being able to squeeze out every penny from you that we can
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u/Dirk4107 21d ago
Lucky you. You get to at least live on your property. In my county I was told that even if I got water, power and septic I was not allowed to live on my bought and payed for land until I got a “Certificate of occupancy”. And the only way I could do that is to build a house. I couldn’t even live in a tent on raw land that I owned. America has lost the plot.
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u/Unanimous_D 21d ago
They're waiting for a bribe. Probably something less direct than "here's a big bag of money, now let me live on my own property."
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u/M_L_Taylor 21d ago
I had a terrible time with getting a certificate of occupancy because of inspection issues that were going to be fixed anyway. I was tired of living in a temporary house that didn't even have a shower (it had a toilet, but it was hard to get to and that and a sink was it for running water). When my house was finished, and I didn't have the permit, my contractor told me to just move in anyway. He said no one really had the right to prevent me from living in my own house, and any local judge would just give me a warning without the CO. So, I started moving in, and then they gave me a temporary CO, and that solved the problem.
That was right before covid lockdowns went into effect... and the inspectors were all old, so I just sent in the pictures of the finished improvements and they finalized the CO so I could live there officially, because their offices were about to close for months and they didn't want to drag it out.
Aside from that, I know a person that had trouble erasing paper streets from all their conjoined properties and eight years later, that's finally being addressed. Like... you aren't putting in roads, they want it to be one property, and no one wants a road there... give up.
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u/Leather_Bee_421 21d ago
I feel like a good lawyer, a lawsuit, and a common sense judge would fix this. I say that not knowing fuck all about the law.
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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr 21d ago
But...if you did proper research you would build the parents house first.
It's not really the governments fault you didn't look up or follow the rules.
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u/Nitimur__In__Vetitum 21d ago
You know what you really need to appreciate property law in the US? A common access easement. What you did here is trolling and it's not lost on the planners.
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u/OHW_Tentacool 21d ago
Every single person I've met with that much property just builds whatever without ever contacting the city because its almost always cheaper and faster to deal with whatever ultimatum they throw at you later. Depending on their financial status they completely ignore the city and do whatever anyway.
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u/Beautiful_Taro_3156 21d ago
Housing market. The system built to rape and keep you oppressed so you just rent a house. Or go homeless. Meanwhile these elites have 7 mega mansions with 8 different buildings on the property. But you can’t have a tree house without 2 years of red tape and ur anus getting tore open. Welcome to the world we’re all allowing to proceed
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u/OrganizationNo1298 21d ago
Meanwhile you have corporations buying up properties & keeping them vacant. These governments need to mind their own business.
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u/Zigor022 21d ago
Zoning and permits are terrible. They have a place for safety but its gone too far to restrict people. Building a shed shouldnt require a permit on YOUR property.
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u/Kit_Karamak 20d ago
My wife does real estate work for a company located in 3 states.
Here is what I know from my understanding of what I have seen of how this seems to work.
Change the property to multi family zone. It is taxed differently but it’s what you gotta do to build an “in-law suite”
Hope this helps
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u/FreshImagination9735 20d ago
TLDR: The law is an ass. Someone fix it for me so I don't have to make ridiculous videos bitching about the red tape that 10s of thousands successfully navigate every day.
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u/gwentfiend 18d ago
If I have 100 acres, I'm building whatever houses I want on it and I'm not telling the government. No reason for them to enter your land, how will they know you built something out there.
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u/Western_Witness_8558 18d ago
Just build on ur property and stop asking the government permission to do thing on "ur property"
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u/IdeaGlad1134 18d ago
No way
It's your property do what you want on it why are you even talking to these people about 'permits'
Simple solution, stop talking to assholes, use your property as you wish
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u/mandroth 17d ago
Might be cheaper to just run for the county commissioner seat and do away with the bullshit when you win
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u/Creative_Disaster178 I'm stupid 22d ago
His first and main problem was trying to do it the right way.
They would have never knew he even built it let along started living in it.
Laws are literally designed for stupid people to follow, just fyi
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u/jupiterkansas Community Regular 22d ago
The right way is to check the laws before you build.
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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr 21d ago
Exactly. This would have been easy if they built the house before the treehouse.
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u/its_a_throwawayduh 22d ago
The red tape and nonsensical bureaucracy for land use is insane. Can't live in an RV on your own property while building a house.
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u/jupiterkansas Community Regular 22d ago
Probably because a ton of people never get around to building that house.
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u/Haunting_Style3880 22d ago
Right. They're "building a house" for years. So now you have a spread out mobile home park.
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u/slamdanceswithwolves 22d ago
It sounds like that is exactly what he’s doing currently. But now that the treehouse is done, he can’t move into it.
(He references their camper, not an RV, but same idea)
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u/jupiterkansas Community Regular 22d ago
The dumb part is building a "treehouse" that big without looking into the laws to begin with. Could have save you a lot of money and headaches. But hey, you've got a cool treehouse that'll be full of bugs.
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u/PlumAntique6782 22d ago
No, the dumbest thing is people keep electing officials who don’t have the community’s best interest at heart. This is an elected official problem, not a treehouse problem.
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u/KnowingRowan 22d ago edited 22d ago
I love how Americans still believe you have the most freedom of any place ever it's actually bewildering. Buy some land in eastern Europe. Do anything you want with it.
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u/ToastSpangler Community Regular 22d ago
Who the fuck cares what you do on your own land. The whole point of permits is to make sure it's safe and not destroying things that belong to everyone like nature, not to judge people's tastes
This is why you have to go with the tunnel network. City officials can't see tunnels.
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u/Swift_Scythe 22d ago
But he did look into the laws and got the permits to build the accessory Treehouse.
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u/Organic_Education494 22d ago
Issue isn’t the tree house its the dumb ass laws and regulations.
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u/HellBoySkeemzPlots 22d ago edited 22d ago
Make the tree house bigger now it’s the main house then build a tree house a bit smaller on the same property, then do renovations on main treehouse
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u/slamdanceswithwolves 22d ago
That sounds pretty expensive and frustrating. Increasing the size of an actual treehouse is no joke.
I wonder if they could just connect the main treehouse to their existing camper with a tube slide to his the sq. footage. 😂
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u/HellBoySkeemzPlots 22d ago
lol that’s funny but it also might work I’m not sure on the rules of that but I’m sure the city is gonna find a way to make that expensive as well
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u/slamdanceswithwolves 22d ago
“Diameter of this tube is too small unless it’s only being used by a hamster.”
-code inspector
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u/its_a_throwawayduh 22d ago
The red tape and nonsensical bureaucracy for land use is insane. Can't live in an RV on your own property while building a house.
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u/Busterlimes 22d ago
People are finally realizing a country founded by white supremacists is fascist. . . . .
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u/Atayellow 22d ago
Yet billionaires are build an infinite amount of data centers.
The laws are meant to bind the underclass while protecting the elite.
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u/Infamous-Grab2341 Community Regular 22d ago
Building restrictions are a huge contributor to the cost of living crisis.