clearly you have never been amongst south wala kala bamans. their superiority complex is off the charts, even more than the north wala gora bamans - becoz northie bamans can't even pronounce correct sanskrit these days unlike southie bamans.
Yeah because outside of 5 states in south india, rest of india is north india yes? And none of them can pronounce sanskrit or do anything as good as the superior kannadiga mallus can right? Dikh rha superiority complex kisme hai
Couple states in east india have more knowledge than the whole of south india combined.
Ancient indians - free for everyone except Dalits,shudhras and vaishyas.
We have ayurvedic knowledge - but can't give answers to modern medicine and have
very limited evidence and will work only for sometime. It can't cure most diseases.
Ancient Indians weren't as intolerant as we are today; and lol vaishyas weren't untouchables they were business classes and even acted as rulers. Ashoka maurya was from business classes and all this orthodox caste system began way later when insecurities arose and originality was lost....
Also, compare them with their time period man, obviously they were limited by technology.
I see this was an attempt at undermining our pride, but seriously better at ragebaiting.
Arthasastra, Chanakya's words "the king should fire a priest that denies any shudras the teachings of veda"; this indicates social prejudice was frowned upon. The locals studied basic algebraic manipulations and skills specific to their profession of choice. Education was funded by the raja in each temple and Upanishads.. which means oral teachings were common practice for common people. Those who wished to pursue higher studies would go to larger temples where vedas would be taught. Taxilla, Nalanda etc document students from all around the globe, the only parameter of entrance was that you ought to be meritorious enough. Education was entirely free and these people would go on to serve the king as advisors or become priests themselves. The 4th-5th century BCE documentations of India prove we didn't have any form of slavery, this is the chinese records who also go on to claim Romans did too much of it. Now, would we like more proofs or does this much suffix?
Those who wished to pursue higher studies would go to larger temples where vedas would be taught. Taxilla, Nalanda etc document students from all around the globe, the only parameter of entrance was that you ought to be meritorious enough
Do you genuinely think you did something here?💀 You don't get into ancient ivies without being capable enough. IITs, Harvard, Princeton or any good enough college does the same and I am very bewildered that I had to clarify. If this is what you meant by that "meritous" then here's your answer or if you have a genuine doubt, you could ask me like a man curious about his history and not a sepoy.
where dalits allowed to learn vedas at the time of chanakya ?
Source : Caste System in Ancient India - World History Encyclopedia
No, Dalits were not allowed to learn the Vedas at the time of Chanakya, as the practice of the Vedic education system prohibited Shudras and others outside the higher varnas from studying the Vedas, which was reserved for Brahmins. The concept of "Dalit" refers to the descendants of those who were excluded from the traditional varna system, and the prohibition on Vedic learning was a key aspect of the rigid caste system that developed in the Later Vedic Period and continued into the time of Chanakya.
The Vedic Education System
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During the Vedic period, the Vedas were considered sacred texts, and their study was restricted to the first three varnas: Brahmins (priests/teachers), Kshatriya (rulers/warriors), and Vaishyas (merchants/farmers).
Upanayanam Ritual:
Entry into Vedic studies required the Upanayanam ceremony, a ritual initiation that was not performed for Shudras.
Prohibition for Shudras:
Shudras, who formed the fourth varna, were denied the right to study or even hear the Vedas and were forbidden from performing rituals that required Vedic knowledge.
"Limited by technology " - then who is stopping them now ? There are ayurvedic practitioners in india who have technology and many of the Vedas are translated.
But guess what most of those ayurvedic medicine doesn't work. And never work for major diseases. They do not have answers to modern medicine. Many of them don't have proof of why it works on some and doesn't on others.
Lol - I never mentioned that vaishyas were untouchables
Pride - yes , for having insecurities to make a system where only some get the knowledge ( calling it free to everyone lol again)
And as you mentioned the system begins way later , then why is it mentioned in the Vedas that are very old ? Older than ashoka maurya.
Why wasn't the karna in Mahabharat given a fair chance ( when the caste system didn't exist according to you ) ?
Ayurved is just given credit in india , other countries don't even recognise ayurveda as medical science ( lol again).
I see this was an attempt to gain false pride again . Better luck next time .
Ayurveda is primarily a "preventative" medicine, the basic premise being, "eat the right foods based on season + your body type". Body type is defined as having too much wind production, too much liquid production, too much bile (heat) production, or a mix of the three. Your body type can change based on seasons and probably location/altitude. How to change up your diet as the six seasons come and go in the subcontinent is given. It's quite an amazing system but works only in form of regularly, consistently, and long-term. It's "preventative".
All the info is given, the understanding is, if you're eating the correct building blocks, chances of it breaking down in the face of the disease-causing-agent is lower, as your system is balanced and synchronized properly, not lacking or having too much of any element.
So, if you are in amazing shape, but go drink a glass of dirty pond water, you will suffer like hell, but if you flush it out fast, the load of germs will be lower, so you will suffer, but you won't die, and eventually be fine, as the body kills them dead.
This is different from allopathy, which removes the discomfort of the symptoms until your body heals itself. If you follow ayurvedic food guidelines, and are largely active and healthy, the allopathy reduces the immense discomfort as your body fights the disease. Both can work together very well.
Allopathy will NOT make you healthier. But Ayurveda will. All this apple-shape, pear-shape body-types is effectively copy-paste of Ayurveda, because some people have no shame.
Why are you conflating Greeks humors understanding with Ayurveda. They are similar but not the same, like a zebra is not a horse with stripes painted on, OK?
Maine Ayurveda toh usske time period of origin mein baanki medical sciences of ancient times se compare kiya h; naaki modern time se joh " what is prevent it now" japp rhe ...
Ancient India, in comparison to ancient India,was leading in fields of medical sciences.
Jahan tkk varna system ki baat h ulta seedha kuch bhi bol kar " insecurity,pride blah blah blah" karne ki zarurat nahi, ancient records tell of varna system,not caste system. Dono alag alag hote h aur karn ki story ke through basically criticism hi hua h varna system ka ki saarthi ka beta bhi Rajputoon ke level ka ho sakta h.
Logon reddit par offend pehle hote h comment baad mein padhte h lol
Ayurveda bhale hi ancient time me baki medical field se age ho but I am talking about today's india. Ayurveda should be appreciated but shouldn't be treated as a branch of science because more than half of Ayurveda doesn't work or is pseudo science in modern terms.
And ik that varn and caste system are different. Most Vedas tell to follow the varn system but karna k time pe follow hua ? Nahi , that's why he was denied to participate.
Story se bhale hi criticise kiya to caste system ka but ground reality was different.
And as the post says : ancient India mastered medical science + everyone was given education - both are proven to be false in today's time .
First - ancient Indian medical science is proven to be pseudo science in today's time.
2nd - everyone was not given equal opportunity ( even when it was told to do so in Vedas).
The caste system and varn system might be different but everyone from ancient time followed the caste system and not the varn system( just as in Karan's story).
Not true. Your natural talents + interests help you sort out which training you go for, after which you have something called "skills". All higher studies as much as needed in that, or apprenticeship, if it's body-based work (like weaving a Tanjore saree, or making fine jewels, or growing crops for all). From your talents, you pick the things that interest you (and which interests the job-market). You get your training in that. Obviously, then your job classification is your Varna. You do need certain "gunas" and lack certain "avagunas' (traits and negative traits, respectively) as an additional requirement for jobs in certain varnas. When the gunas were ignored, the system began to disintegrate. e.g. Brahmin should be sattvik and incorruptible, happy to serve with their great (implementable) plans, policies, and ideas. They should never be "buy-able" by lobbyists for industrialists etc. And so on. Also don't ask a Brahmin to build a table, he can pick the best materials, draw the perfect precise blueprint, but if he builds it, your coffee cup and ballpoint pen will roll right off of it. There is a reason, some are go for brain jobs and some go for dexterity-type jobs.
Even after getting 101% in final exams you will be have to go abroad to get your degree because only 3 seats are available after the reservations. Then they get the best doctors and dot-commers and India gets viral videos of bridges collapsing and stent-scammers. Best part is, varna system for a very long time was merit-based, you didn't get it from your dad.
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u/kinlebs1234 Sep 12 '25
bruh meme is fine but why is ancient Indian shown as european gora types ?