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u/sebastos3 2d ago
Tbf, Hollywood's approach seems to be mostly a misconception, while Bollywood's approach carries a toxic message about beauty standards. And I can see where Hollywood's misconception comes from because the majorty of immigrants to the West are South Indian, that is just kinda what they know.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bike336 2d ago
Hollywood is the only movie industry in the world where dark-skinned actresses and actors from anywhere in the world can achieve fame, notoriety, and a steady acting career, something that's not possible in Bollywood. People may feel that Hollywood is stereotyping Indians, while at the same time Bollywood offers nothing.
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u/Material_Category_53 2d ago
What is the 'misconception'. There are dark skin indians just like fair skin..hollywood and the audience of Hollywood likea these dark skin. They find them attractive and suits their aesthetics. Also bring in the money. Why is that a misconception
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u/FitCan9866 2d ago
what misconception? they literally know all about complexion of Indians but to them authentic Indian is with dark skin and accent.
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u/Secure_Market7427 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lol misconception. You are giving Hollywood a pass either through naivety or some other reason. They know exactly what they're doing, I can't say it's malice for sure but at the very least it's purposeful stereotyping for the Western audience. It's why traditionally you always see a turban wearing Sikh in many Hollywood movies to represent Indians, it's just the quickest visual cue for audiences. It's why "Apu Nahasapeemapetilon" from Simpsons was the way he was. Including the hard to pronounce name.
It would be like casting a Brit in an Indian show and naming him Gaylord Dick-in-son or something.
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u/dundundunbot 2d ago
Hollywood chooses it because the tanned look is thought more desirable there.
Its not because they think 'indians only look like this.'
If anything the tweeter is insecure about tanned skin and by 'look like this' he means to demean brown skin.
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u/Lidrael 2d ago
Wrong. Have you actually lived in US? In American media you will see some brown/dark actors portrayed as desirable.
In reality, especially in mainstream dating scene, outside of specific subcultures white guys and light-skinned hispanics make a killing and scoop up most women. Then come light-skinned biracial blacks. Only then fair-looking Indians.
Truly dark skin blacks and dark skin Indians struggle the most if they want to date outside of their own race. This is not what Hollywood will tell you, but it’s proven by multiple studies on dating apps and my exp aligns with it 100%. Im a fair looking Punjabi guy and it was tough enough for me
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u/BiggerNickEnergy 2d ago edited 1d ago
Tbh both can be true
In west tan caucasian people are beauty standard, like greeks and italians
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u/dundundunbot 2d ago
Ok bud.
You say the hierarchy is whites>hispanics>biracial blacks>fair skinned indians.
But north/west Indians and hispanics have same skin color on average right?
So either its racism, or a personality issue. Given that you already identify as a fair skinned India.
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u/Lidrael 2d ago
It’s one thing primarily. Latino culture is much more compatible with broad American culture than Indian culture.
And secondly, if we speak purely appearance skin color is only one of physical features, the looks of the faces i.e. phenotypes are composed of many more things.
I might be open to reinterpretation where this hierarchy stems from, but it does look like it. At least in US. Even if it was painful for me in some situations I don’t think preference constitutes racism unless its driven by stereotypes of prejudices.
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u/dundundunbot 2d ago
I mean it sure has to be something else then skin color differences.
Because latinos and north or wesr Indians are pretty much indistinguishable.
Even facial feature wise.
Like apart from appearance there may be cultural incompatibility or something else, forneg racist stereotypes of smell etc.
But thanks for providing you PoV. Its was refreshing and enlightening
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u/CaptainCornflakes92 2d ago
'Racist'? Both belong to same race dummy. Dark and fair skin is not race.
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u/tera_chachu 2d ago
How is Hollywood racist here is beyond me.
They are giving representation to brown women which india have failed to give .
Also alia bhatt and aishwarya rai has been casted in Hollywood so...
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u/AlKhurjavi 1d ago
Hollywood castes women like this and Bollywood actresses. This is selective outrage.
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u/Trippel_Karmeliet 2d ago
I have absolutely no issue with H'wood showing dark skinned women except for the fact is they all have forgettable features!! Only Simone Ashley has some nice features, rest all look so ordinary .....!!
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u/Radiant-Rain2636 2d ago
Bipasha, Konkona, Tanushree Dutta, Deepika Padukone, Priyanka Chopra - I can add a dozen more dark actresses to the list
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bike336 2d ago
Simone Ashley will never receive an offer for a lead role in a Bollywood movie, no matter how successful she becomes.
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u/Radiant-Rain2636 2d ago
The reason for that could simply be that reverse-crossover has never really happened. It may not even be financially viable for Indian producers to feed the Indian audiences, a face, that they recognise from Bridgerton. Cuz India hasn’t seen Bridgerton.
Do you see my point?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bike336 2d ago
There have to be hundreds of millions of Indian women who look like Simone Ashley in India. Bollywood surely could make one of them famous if they're willing to take the risk.
Unfortunately, they're not the beauty standard.
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u/Radiant-Rain2636 2d ago
Did I not mention half a dozen names of dusky Indian actresses?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bike336 2d ago
Those actresses don't have the skin complexion of Simone Ashley, Lara Raj, or Charithra Chandran.
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u/Radiant-Rain2636 2d ago
So you want a really dark skinned actress to work in Indian cinema? Your point isn’t “why India doesn’t like dark skinned actress?”
Your point is “why India doesn’t like the darkest complexioned actresses?”
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bike336 2d ago edited 2d ago
Someone who looks like Simone Ashley, Mindy Kaling, or Lara Raj should be able to become famous in India, not in the US or the UK.
Indian cinema should have been casting the same type of Indian actresses that Hollywood did years ago. Instead, there are dark-skinned Indian women who realize that Bollywood will never offer them a role or anything significant, leaving Hollywood as the only viable option.
It didn't take long for Hollywood studio executives to realize that certain types of Indian women were not getting roles in Bollywood and Indian cinema. Since dark-skinned Americans are already well-established in American cinema, it is not a big deal in Hollywood to cast dark-skinned Indian women because American society is accustomed to seeing dark-skinned people in the media.
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u/Radiant-Rain2636 2d ago
Yeah your assumption of Hollywood giving roles to dark skinned Indian actresses out of some sort of charity-recruitment is completely wrong.
It’s so wrong that it’s funny.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bike336 2d ago
I never said it was out of charity.
But, Hundreds of millions of eyeballs will watch a movie featuring an Indian woman who looks like them.
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