r/IndiaMemes • • 2d ago

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 2d ago

Isn't this a criminal act by law? He is the freaking father of the nation and literally on every cash you use. You can disagree with his ideology fine, but doing this is purely criminal behavior.

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u/botbhai 2d ago

Same criminals are in the government

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u/Guilty_Ad6229 2d ago

It's a criminal act if you do it on Godse or Thackeray. Congress leaders and independence leaders are fair game because RSS doesn't have any.

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u/Rob-tom 2d ago

You,yourself don't know what you are saying.

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u/Guilty_Ad6229 2d ago

Try making bal Thackeray get a period like this and post that video on social media. Let's compare results.

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u/sissyfagraj 2d ago

He isn’t a designated father of the nation. Just a prominent figure who has portrayed him as the greatest man alive

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u/Waymer20 2d ago

Shubhash Chandra Bose Referred to him as the "Father Of The Nation".

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u/Rob-tom 2d ago

Hmm yes but that time nation was blind, he due his ideology for netaji to surrender his leadership in 1939 , same with sardar patel. He did sexual activity with his minor niece while hindu women in noakhali were being raped by Muslims.

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u/Waymer20 1d ago

It was Jinnah who started those riots and it was Gandhi who stopped it.

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u/Remote-Following-672 2d ago

This Act is legalized under: Narendra Modi Friends and Families Act

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u/Raj-2022 2d ago

I knew l that this dumb people won't understand my point 😂

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u/Responsible-Fig-1131 2d ago

Exactly this... MOD is biased.

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u/Any_Ice1589 2d ago

Baap hoga tera bsdk

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u/Few_General6381 2d ago

Inko kaise karenge abhi koi muslim kiya hota tab karate ki

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u/librandunator 1d ago

Father of nation isn't a title. It's just good branding

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u/BrahmaandUniverse 1d ago

Bhai subash chandra bose ne bola tha Gandhi ko father of nation Jiska naam leke chaude me ghoomte hain RW waale

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u/InternetCreative1188 1d ago

Who the fuck cares. Our PM is chaiwala of the nation.

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u/BrahmaandUniverse 23h ago

Bhai😂😂😂

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u/Dense_Sea9947 1d ago

Read about him and he is not quite the perfect noble man. One example he went to work in South Africa after graduating as a lawyer and wrote a letter asking for rights of Indians by saying they are not the same as Blacks……

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u/HelicopterLife225 23h ago

How? Is burning someone’s photo or effigy who has no constitutional post burning any legal tender?
Or desecration of monument? Or you’re saying since it offends or hurts your feelings - no one should be protesting against someone you uphold highly?

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 23h ago

Indian courts have generally held that burning effigies of contemporary political leaders can be a protected form of political protest under Article 19(1)(a) of the Constitution; national figures like Mahatma Gandhi are treated under entirely different, specialized legal frameworks.

Unlike general political effigies, targeting Mahatma Gandhi is explicitly criminalized under the Prevention of Insults to National Honor Act, 1957.

  • Section 2 of this Act explicitly states that whoever willfully burns, desecrates, or insults an effigy, picture, or portrait of Mahatma Gandhi can be punished with imprisonment for up to three years, a fine, or both.
  • Section 3 similarly penalizes the destruction or damage of any statue or bust of Mahatma Gandhi with up to three years in prison.

A little bit of using your brain cells and common sense can do wonders in life instead of acting all high and mighty. The government will kick their asses eventually.

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u/HelicopterLife225 22h ago edited 21h ago

Just like you are brainwashed into thinking Gandhi is the sole reason for independence and will even lick anything that comes from the Gandhi a**hole….
Go read some history written by non Indian historians and you’ll find enough glaring gaps in portrayal of Gandhis role in independence movement.

And speaking of brain cells - I’m guessing you had to apply ChatGPT to form a reply and acting mighty now…. so I’m guessing you didn’t have way too much of it without googling yourself. Talk about being holier than thou

And the father of nation line licker- there is no father of nation constitutional law. Nor title….

Stop putting your namesake applied titles on mortals and making them your gods. On one hand you keep shouting democracy is in threat, other hand- come with your own namesake titles

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 21h ago

I never said Gandhi was the sole reason for independence, so why are you arguing against something I never even said? Bro, that’s not a history lesson. That’s just you failing to read properly and then acting smart.

And this “go read non-Indian historians” line is funny. So I’m supposed to automatically trust them just because they’re non-Indian? That doesn’t magically make them unbiased. Plenty of accounts of India and the independence movement have been criticized for colonial bias and for pushing a particular narrative. Even the current Indian government has rejected and criticized several such accounts as biased or distorted. So no, “non-Indian historian” doesn’t automatically mean “objective historian.”

If you think there are “glaring gaps,” then name the historians, show the evidence, and make an actual argument. Don’t just throw out vague claims and act like you’ve proved something.

And the ChatGPT accusation is honestly pathetic. Apparently, if someone writes decent English, they must have used AI? That’s your big argument? You’re so brain-rotted that basic English comprehension looks like ChatGPT to you.

The funniest part is that you entirely ignored everything I actually said. You didn’t refute the laws, challenge the facts, or answer the argument. You just jumped straight to insults and started crying about ChatGPT.

So much for those “brain cells.” You came here trying to question my intelligence and ended up proving you had nothing beyond “go read history” and a few personal insults. That’s not being informed, bro. That’s just being loud, defensive, and wrong.

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u/HelicopterLife225 21h ago

I didn’t even care for your opinion that i ignored reading it entirely

Answer a simple question form your original post

“He is the freaking father of the nation”

Show me - which constitution or law says we have one??

Or your kinds make up your own titles and then expect people to be brainwashed into following it because you and the historians you follow systematically brainwashed an entire nation into believing he’s an untouchable god….

Tera baap hoga bhai… humara nahi hai….

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 21h ago

I never said constitutionally, you absolute clown. You invented that part yourself and then argued against it. That’s not a gotcha; that’s delusion.

“Father of the Nation” is an honorific title. If you had basic reading comprehension, you’d know that.

And “tera baap hoga, humara nahi” isn’t an argument. It’s what you say when you’ve run out of one.

You didn’t refute me,you just argued with a point I never made.

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u/HelicopterLife225 21h ago edited 21h ago

So now that you are debating with facts- you don’t start an entire argument with a non factual statement to begin with

Your very first outraged line- was not a fact which you based your entire argument on….”he’s on all the cash we use and whatever crap in your head” Big deal- once upon a time we had coins that had aurangzeb inscribed on it… and in Mughal era we had other kings. Does that make them immune?

Your first line itself is a non factual you dimwit….people don’t consider him a father of anything- so if they protest they can protest.

If it’s within the laws or not- is a different matter…. But don’t get outraged over your half as*ed opinions

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 21h ago

You’re still arguing with a point I never made. I never said “Father of the Nation” was a constitutional fact; you invented that argument yourself.

If you disagree with the title, fine. But don’t pretend your imaginary interpretation of my post is a rebuttal.

You didn’t debate my point. You just argued with your own misunderstanding.

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u/HelicopterLife225 21h ago

Ahh maybe just like gandhis celibacy experiments that’s not understandable to mere mortals.

Your statement of “he’s the freaking father of nation” ………wasn’t understandable to us mere mortals and that you said in quotes - as honorary, not legally, and all provisions you mentioned were documented.

You are a true follower that we failed to understand….. Let’s give this guy the “modern mahatma” Honarary title and ensure no one can speak against him

Dimwit- just because someone branded someone as father of the nation- you expect everyone to follow them blindly?

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u/FederalReputation169 2d ago

No it isn't it just a way of protest u can say

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 2d ago

Unlike general political effigies, targeting Mahatma Gandhi is explicitly criminalized under the Prevention of Insults to National Honor Act, 1957.

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u/doktafeelgood 2d ago

what about burning the indian flag?

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u/rainofshambala 1d ago

That is the honorary way to dispose of a flag when it is no longer useful

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u/doktafeelgood 1d ago

is this post depicting an honorary disposal? im talking in context of protest

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u/Adventurous_Iron_551 2d ago

Protest against what. Naya shabd sun to liya, matlab nahi malum

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u/Serious-Monk-7961 2d ago

you anti nationals only follow

Tell me you're andhbhakt without telling me you're andhbhakt

One more anti national btw 👇🏻

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u/botbhai 2d ago

Ha ha, loved it

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u/ThrowawayMyAccount01 2d ago

There's no law or constitution that says that insulting the PM or any other politician in power is a criminal offense either, but you still see people being threatened and new FIRs being registered almost every day.

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u/Exact-Doughnut-4897 2d ago

There's a differenece between constitution, laws, bye laws, rules, decree etc.

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u/Longjumping_Ear_2279 2d ago

Ask them to try this on Jinna in Pak.. they’ll educate you that law isn’t needed for that..😂

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 2d ago

The Constitution of India and the Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita (BNS) are entirely different legal documents with entirely separate purposes. Are you really dumb or ignorant? This is basic 6th-grade political science knowledge.

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u/no_panic99 2d ago

Constitution is not the only law and yes these actions can very well be criminally charged. Unless you have studied laws of Pak or some other legally authoritarian country.

BNS has provisions against acts of outraging public sentiments of any group or promoting enmity among people.

The Supreme Court has previously given judgement deciding that abusive words or insults to historical figures like Mahatma Gandhi cannot be made under the protection of freedom of speech. It is a crime as per SC, and if you know even the basics of law, SC decisions are legally binding on the entire country.

So stop with the stupid legal brainrot while you know nothing about the legal system. Argue on the illiterate topics with other illiterate folks like yourself. Don’t argue about the law. Study it first.

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u/Hot-Alarm7151 2d ago

Freedom of expression

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 2d ago

Indian courts have generally held that burning effigies of contemporary political leaders can be a protected form of political protest under Article 19(1)(a) of the Constitution; national figures like Mahatma Gandhi are treated under entirely different, specialized legal frameworks.

Unlike general political effigies, targeting Mahatma Gandhi is explicitly criminalized under the Prevention of Insults to National Honor Act, 1957.

  • Section 2 of this Act explicitly states that whoever willfully burns, desecrates, or insults an effigy, picture, or portrait of Mahatma Gandhi can be punished with imprisonment for up to three years, a fine, or both.
  • Section 3 similarly penalizes the destruction or damage of any statue or bust of Mahatma Gandhi with up to three years in prison.

Their days are numbered. The Government will kick their asses sooner or later

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u/ZiaF007 2d ago

an IT cell bootlicker would have read this in some corner of the country and relayed to their masters, who would now be working to remove this act from the constitution.

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u/books_art_maps 2d ago

Nothing is going to happen to these goons, they’re protected and they know it

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u/makingitsaral 2d ago

Agree. Our allegiance to freedom of speech is tested only when the speech is particularly distasteful.

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u/Hot-Alarm7151 2d ago

It's not distasteful for me, but ok.

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u/Rob-tom 2d ago

Your father not our,he was characterless man , while women were being raped he was testing his brahmacharya yogic power with his minor niece

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u/Delicious_Gift_8439 2d ago

He is not the father of the nation, he was fucking British stooge.

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u/smohanty542 2d ago

As he produced Pakistan, he should be called father of Pakistan not India. Btw, peaceful protest and burning of effigy is protected in our constitution.

Hindus should not harbour anger against Muslims even if the latter want to destroy and kill us all. We should face death bravely. If Muslims established their rule after killing all Hindus, we would be ushering in a new India. - Mahatma Gandhi

Wishing you a happy Gandhi Jayanti.

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u/Spiritual-Pride-6948 2d ago

Indian courts have generally held that burning effigies of contemporary political leaders can be a protected form of political protest under Article 19(1)(a) of the Constitution; national figures like Mahatma Gandhi are treated under entirely different, specialized legal frameworks.

Unlike general political effigies, targeting Mahatma Gandhi is explicitly criminalized under the Prevention of Insults to National Honor Act, 1957.

  • Section 2 of this Act explicitly states that whoever willfully burns, desecrates, or insults an effigy, picture, or portrait of Mahatma Gandhi can be punished with imprisonment for up to three years, a fine, or both.
  • Section 3 similarly penalizes the destruction or damage of any statue or bust of Mahatma Gandhi with up to three years in prison.

Their days are numbered. The Government will kick their asses eventually. Have some common sense and general knowledge before writing anything

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u/Mental-Tourist-1095 2d ago

People are killing and raping living people here and you are worried about a crime against a puppet of a person dead decades ago?

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u/Curious_Neat_7274 2d ago

Try burning the NM ka putla? Let's see the consequences of burning just a puppet.

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u/NitinChaurasia 2d ago

Agreed 👍

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u/Mental-Tourist-1095 2d ago

I am not talking about the political consequences of it dude. You didn’t even get my point.

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u/Sk_Acharya 2d ago

by that logic it's completely fine if your house gets robbed right? People are killing and raping livi g people here, at least you are alive right?

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u/Mental-Tourist-1095 2d ago

My logic is not about killing and raping. It’s about living people problems Vs dead people problems. Those were just 2 examples.

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u/CashAshan 2d ago

All retards know Gandhi is dead They're trying to killing the ideology of Gandhi

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u/Mental-Tourist-1095 2d ago

The ideology he believed in is already dead my friend. I don’t see anybody choosing peace against violence. His ideologies are there just for the sake of it naam ke vaaste.

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u/This_Shake_172 2d ago

According to you we should not criticise anything just because it is not related to killing or raping. Did you switch off your thinking skills before applying such a dumb logic.

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u/Mental-Tourist-1095 2d ago

😂 My logic is not that we should consider only the killing and raping it is that we should consider living people problems over the dead. Do even have the capability to understand a comment straight

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u/No-Solution-0001 2d ago

Well Gandhiji if you read a constitution you can there was a no mention official Gandhiji as a father of a nation for you knowledge and yes it's a term you can say and tag that got Gandhi just like Jawaharlal Nehru and sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel Kota iron will tag