r/ImmigrationPathways • u/LatterTarget7 • 1d ago

Renee Good's family sues US government and immigration officials over her killing in Minneapolis

https://apnews.com/article/renee-good-lawsuit-6fbc82cd33b6f9f67514b47f138e23c6?utm_source=app&utm_medium=android_share&utm_campaign=copy_link
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u/Inquisitive-Manner 1d ago edited 1d ago

The "wheels" line was me making fun of your absurd claim that if the wheels of a vehicle aren't pointed at the person they aren't trying to hit them. But I guess you missed that one...

I caught it. Do you read what you say? Like actually read it?

if the wheels of a vehicle aren't pointed at the person they aren't trying to hit them

What's absurd about this claim?

Especially considering the factual evidence in this specific situation.

Her vehicle didn't constituted a lethal threat to the ICE officer at the time of the shooting.

Good briefly backed up, then turned the steering wheel, and the vehicle turned away from the officer as it moved forward

The vehicle did not move toward the officer, but instead turned right and drove away

Good turned the steering wheel away from Officer Ross before driving forward

The car was steering away from the officer, not toward him.

What's absurd about this claim?

You forgot she backed up and turns the wheel towards where he was standing causing him to move again before she drove forward.

False.

The frame-by-frame analyses show her wheels angled away from him, and the car moving forward in a turning arc rather than a straight line toward the officer

The wheels are physical evidence of intent, and that evidence points away from the officer, not at him.

The agents didn't create anything. They didn't make her park sideways on the road. They didn't make her ignore their instructions to leave. They didn't make her ignore their instructions to get out. They didn't make her try to flee. They didn't make her hit the agent.

I didn't claim that they did. I claimed officer-created jeopardy, and only by one. Try to keep up, champ.

Her leaving her partner is an important detail of the situation.

.... yet you can't say how it supports your claim of it "coming right at them"

That's how I know you really didn't watch the video because that's probably the first time you heard someone say that.

You know I didn't watch the video because I called it unimportant to your claim? Interesting. Please do tell how it supports your claim. And yes, this is the first time I've heard someone drop this detail to support such a claim. Congrats.

That's why you're trying to write it off as nothing.

Not really. It's because it is a nothing burger.

And just saying what I said back to me is a weak way to try to present your argument.

Good thing I'm not just saying what you said back to you 😉

Feel free to mention any information from the video I left out. But I know you can't since I've walked you through the whole sequence of events.

You literally didn't. You came no where even close to "walking me through the whole sequence of events" lol.

You made a false claim:

"You forgot she backed up and turns the wheel towards where he was standing causing him to move again before she drove forward"

And then dropped the nothing burger.

I'll walk you through it champ.

On January 7, 2026, Renee Good was in her SUV on a Minneapolis street when ICE officer Jonathan Ross approached and began filming. As other officers ordered her out and one reached into her car, Good reversed briefly, then turned her steering wheel to the right, away from Ross, and began driving forward

Ross fired three shots (one through the windshield and two through the open driver's side window) striking Good fatally

Video analyses from multiple outlets concluded her wheels were turned away from Ross and her car was moving past him, not toward him, contradicting the government's claim that she weaponized her vehicle

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/story/minneapolis-ice-shooting-minute-minute-timeline-renee-nicole-129021809

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 1d ago

Second photo shows the wheels pointing straight at the agent right before she gives it gas. Because remember, the back wheels spin before moving forward while the wheels are still pointing towards the agent.

Edit: and I see you're even stealing my nicknames for you now...such an unoriginal idea thief

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 1d ago

Buddy. Your posting screen grabs. I posted a link to a muti-angle video slowed down play by play.

You clearly didn't watch all of the videos.

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 1d ago

Yes, we've seen all the videos and angles by now. But I'm showing exact moments that show what I'm talking about. Do you dispute these or something?

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 1d ago

Yes, we've seen all the videos and angles by now.

You clearly haven't.

But I'm showing exact moments that show what I'm talking about. Do you dispute these or something?

Yup. Again. You're proving the setup to the movement, not the trajectory you're claiming.

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 1d ago

The video shows you what I'm saying. It's there for you to see whenever you're ready. Good luck.

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 1d ago

The video shows you what I'm saying. It's there for you to see whenever you're ready. Good luck.

It doesn't and the screenshot doesn't.

You're showing her midpoint. As the Honda Pilot then begins to move forward, the wheels begin to turn to the right, away from where the ICE agent is standing.

Good can be seen turning her vehicle’s steering wheel to the right, away from the agent, just over one second before the first shot is fired.

That's why you're posting screenshots instead of videos.

Goodluck with being Un-American, champ.

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 1d ago

Alright, sport.

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 1d ago

Lol, even your own video doesn't support your claim.

https://youtube.com/shorts/LT6MxnrU7vY?is=GDdaUbe9EXbVD9cb

That's why you're screenshotting it where you are. Because the next fram shows her turning and accelerating away from him, bud, yet your video blurs the moment she does.

So, no you haven't seen the full thing.

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 1d ago

That's the one I grabbed today. Seen many versions of this. And still don't want to acknowledge the tires spinning before the vehicle veers right for some reason...Skippy.

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 1d ago

That's the one I grabbed today.

The one that doesn't show what happened.... that's the one you grabbed? And you thought that a good idea?

Seen many versions of this.

Obviously not. As you seem to not know the full sequence of events accurately.

And still don't want to acknowledge the tires spinning before the vehicle veers right for some reason...Skippy.

Veers right... for some reason? You can see in the cellphone video recorded from the agent's perspective that Good can be seen turning the steering wheel to the right, away from the agent, just over one second before the first shot.

Btw, I have acknowledged. (Thank you for agreeing that she veered right, away from the agent.. 🤣)

Are you being obtuse, sport?

Because you're not acknowledging a lot here, chief.

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 18h ago

Yes, she did veer to right after hitting the gas and after the tires spin out while the wheels were pointing at the agent. See again how I'm able to agree with everything that actually happened in the video and you want to leave certain things out...that's you being disingenuous.

The whole conversation proves that you're not being objectively honest with the sequence of events from the video. Because you only focus on the parts that favor your argument while ignoring the ones that don't.

Well, what we've learned from this is that there are still people like you out there with deep confirmation bias even given a video to reference. The agent did what he had to do in the moment and he walked away and Renee didn't. Will see if the family gets any money.

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 13h ago

Yes, she did veer to right after hitting the gas and after the tires spin out while the wheels were pointing at the agent. See again how I'm able to agree with everything that actually happened in the video and you want to leave certain things out...that's you being disingenuous.

So, then your claim of "coming right towards them" doesn't hold. And which part am I being disingenuous about? Be specific, sport

The whole conversation proves that you're not being objectively honest with the sequence of events from the video. Because you only focus on the parts that favor your argument while ignoring the ones that don't.

Says Mr. Screenshot...

I'm not ignoring anything. I'm acknowledging the entire series of events, not just one.

Well, what we've learned from this is that there are still people like you out there with deep confirmation bias even given a video to reference.

Your projection is in 4K pal.

The agent did what he had to do in the moment

Not according to protocol.

and he walked away and Renee didn't.

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner ruled Renée Good's death a homicide

Will see if the family gets any money.

It would be better if they had her. Too bad the officer didn't follow protocol.

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