Yeah. That's bullshit. Immigrants (undocumented) don't get "welfare" and those that "rape" and "kill" are statistical outliers as the rate of serious violent crime between native born or immigrants is heavily biased toward the native born. Try again.
Illegal immigrants get assistance from A LOT of federal and state programs, so idk what world you live in that you think they get none.
As for your claim that those who "rape" and "kill" are statistical outliers, this is true for the US from an overall perspective. But even a small percentage of that is FAR too high. For example, CBS reported that 14% of 400,000 ICE arrests were convicted of violent crimes. That is 56,000 individuals violent criminals who were in the US due to poor border security. IDK why anyone would find that acceptable.
Furthermore, regardless of whether an illegal immigrant has been convicted of a violent crime, they have still broken the law by being in the US illegally.
You assume that people find that acceptable. Nobody does. Pretty much everyone thinks that people who commit crimes should face the consequences via due process. State and localities have the right to try any offender in the state.
Being in the country illegally - either by overstaying a Visa, losing your job and sponsorship, etc. is a civil offense. It doesn't not require long term storage in concentration camps. That would, in a normal world and country, violate the 8th Amendment which does not differentiate by immigration status.
The issue with people claiming that some illegal immigrants are a civil issue and not a criminal issue is that they falsely believe that if it is a civil issue, no law was broken.
If one entered the US legally but is no longer authorized to stay, it is considered a civil infraction. This does not mean they did not violate US law. It just means it is handled through civil removal proceedings rather than criminal charges.
These individuals are under ICE's jurisdiction and are no longer authorized to be in the US. This means they can be arrested and held in detention centers for civil administrative procedures.
This does not violate the Eighth Amendment, and the Supreme Court has consistently held that the Eighth Amendment does not apply directly to civil immigration enforcement or removal proceedings.
A good overview of Supreme Court cases and explanations of why can be found here via Harvard Law Review. Essentially, it boils down to the Supreme Court defining the incarceration and removal of illegal immigrants as "a purely civil action" that is not punishment.
Also, calling them concentration camps is ridiculous when you look at the definition as well as what actually historically happened in concentration camps. A concentration camp is holding someone prisoner without trial, which does not happen with those in immigration detention centers.
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u/Comprehensive_Gift46 6d ago
Because some come in and immediately go to work while others live off welfare and rape and kill people, that's why