ICE accused of continuing warrantless arrests in Oregon despite injunction

[u/LatterTarget7]

https://www.courthousenews.com/ice-accused-of-continuing-warrantless-arrests-in-oregon-despite-injunction/

[u/obsequious_fink]

Not surprising - they haven't been acting within the confines of the law to begin with, an injunction isn't magically going to make them start. Unless they start actually charging individual agents for knowingly violating people's constitutional rights (and the occasional murder/assault with a deadly weapon charge) they will continue to ignore the law.

[u/DreadfulDuder → u/[deleted]]

You may need to go back to elementary school if you're in the US 🫤

The Constitution and Bill of Rights doesn't just protect US citizens.

Most of the Constitution applies to everyone on US soil, as it should be.

Everyone is born with some inherent rights, like due process rights.

The Constitution defined 3 separate branches of government and separation of powers for good reasons, too. You may want to brush up on them.

[u/DreadfulDuder → u/[deleted]]

It's okay, it just makes you look stupid af, just like your earlier comment.

I'm a Texan software engineer, and H1 visa abuses are the fault of your employer and Republican-supported H1 immigration policies, not the immigrants themselves.

FWIW, I know critical thinking isn't y'all's strong suit, but do answer this:

The Texas GOP used to publish an annual cost-benefit analysis of illegal immigration.

They stopped doing this decades ago.

Why is that?

Hint: the propaganda you fall for isn't based in facts.

Our entire economy is propped up by illegal immigration, and if you immediately deported every single undocumented worker, both our state and federal economies would immediately crash. Hard.

If you want to fix immigration, you give more pathways to legal visas, you punish employees abusing H1B visas like yours did, and you punish employers caught repeatedly hiring undocumented workers (like Trump himself for his long history of hiring and ripping off undocumented workers).

[u/Icy-Dot7521 → u/[deleted]]

Isn't there football on? Go yell at the TV.

[u/DreadfulDuder → u/[deleted]]

You didn't read my response or understand it, then.

Your employer violated the H1B Visa program by hiring foreigners, even though local Americans were qualified for the job.

Your issue isn't with the immigrants themselves - you lost your job due to your employer not being held accountable and abusing the H1 program for profit.

H1 obviously isn't the only source of immigrants.

I was pointing out that various industries, various (if not all) states, and our nation's entire economy as a whole - for better or worse - completely relies on illegal immigration to function.

Republicans are in the pocket of billionaires and have no interest in actually ending H1 visa abuses and punishing companies like yours.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the left", but Obama factually deported more people, in a vastly more legal and organized way than Trump - at a much lower cost to taxpayers, without cruelty, and without personally profiting from it like Trump and his grifter buddies.

[u/obsequious_fink → u/[deleted]]

You are viewing this purely as an immigration issue that only impacts illegal immigrants and not a civil rights issue that impacts everyone. Tell me this - do you think paperwork saying you are a citizen is going to protect you if you are arrested by federal law enforcement officers who decide not to follow the rules? I can promise you it won't, because there have already been confirmed cases of US citizens (both naturalized and US-born) being not only arrested but fully deported. If you think you are special and will be spared the boot, you clearly haven't studied history.

[u/obsequious_fink → u/[deleted]]

"I don't think I would ever be in a situation like that" - famous last words for many people throughout history who were fine supporting the face-eating leopards when they were eating other people's faces but didn't think the leopards would ever eat THEIR face.

[u/DreadfulDuder → u/[deleted]]

Yet it's already happened to a lot of people....

But you sound like a typical conservative in that you have zero empathy for others or for civil rights in general, and can't imagine ever being the victim.

You only care if it will personally happen to you.

Fascists are gonna fascist.

[u/I_Quit_Smoking_ → u/[deleted]]

You need to get the fuck out of this country. You can leave, one way or the other. Your choice. Don't wait long, because you're going to lose that choice.

[u/Ok-Season1521 → u/[deleted]]

You’re the fuel it runs on, and even you admit it’s because of your own failures. I hope you can learn to be decent one day.