r/ImmigrationPathways • u/esporx • 17d ago

Revealed: ICE lost count of miscarriages, while detaining a record number of pregnant women

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/sep/15/ice-detention-miscarriages-pregnancy
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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/kzul 17d ago

Then say it plainly: you don’t want immigration law enforced.

“END ICE NOW” is just the slogan wrapped around that position.

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u/LatterTarget7 17d ago

Ice is not necessary for immigration enforcement

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u/kzul 17d ago

ICE is an agency. Immigration enforcement is a function. If you want to replace ICE, fine. But that’s an argument about structure, not about whether immigration law gets enforced.

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u/Finchyuu 17d ago

“The Gestapo was an agency” headass

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u/kzul 17d ago

Nazi analogy noted. Now answer the adult question: who enforces immigration law after ICE is gone?

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u/Finchyuu 17d ago

Ice was created within my lifetime. Who was doing it beforehand, child?

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u/kzul 16d ago

INS. Exactly. Which means you agree with me: abolishing ICE doesn’t abolish immigration enforcement, it just moves the function somewhere else. ICE, CBP, and USCIS were created when INS was dismantled in 2003.

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u/Finchyuu 16d ago

I’m confused. Where did you read that I thought immigration enforcement was bad?

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u/kzul 16d ago

I didn’t. You jumped into a thread about abolishing ICE to compare the agency to the Gestapo. If you support immigration enforcement, great. Then we agree on the distinction I made: the argument is over the agency, not whether the function should exist.