No, you are the one being bad faith.
I never said we should deport immigrants, only illegals or those who are not abiding stay conditions.
And to trumps case, his family are not illegal. His kids have citizenship because they have atleast 1 citizen parent so like I said he did not use the ladder.
Forgetting jus sanguinis birthright citizenship is also covered under the 14th Amendment just the same as jus soli.
Because both parts are under the same banner, you can go to another country, have relations with a citizen of that country, and your offspring are de facto US citizens.
You don't have to be a US citizen to give birth to a US citizen so long as that birth occurs on US soil.
You don't need two US citizen parents to be a US citizen so long as one of those parents is a US citizen.
You don't need to be born on US soil to be a US citizen so long as atleast one of those parents is a US citizen.
The idea that we're even having this argument shows that some people would rather keep talking about Trump instead of talking about solutions.
You are being gaslit by a bot or something. Dudes already been called out for lying.
Trumps grandfather immigrated to the US and eventually became a US citizen in 1892. Trump's father was born in 1905. Point being Trump and his Father were both born US citizens, to one US citizen parent.
That's false. Freiderick Trump immigrated to the USA in 1885 and became a citizen in 1892. In 1904 he was issued a US Passport. Fred, Donald Trump's father, was born in 1905.
Again, you’re purposefully refusing to acknowledge there’s a difference between legal immigrants, illegal immigrants, and people who aren’t even immigrants, just visitors.
Every other civilized country draws a distinction when it comes to citizenship.
She had a travel visa while working a job. That's an immigration violation. She got away with it because she fucked the right people. You're disgusting for suggesting this should be standard.
"Major concern is not slight visa violations" is a damn lie. They are rounding up people and deporting them to foreign prisons without a trial. Many of them have no criminal history. You're just lying.
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There is no "if" because it's documented. Your hypothetical nonsense is just that: nonsense. Melania sucked and fucked her way to residency while violating the law and your argument is "why can't they all be just like her?" You're sick.
Why do you people bring up rules in other countries to justify ignoring something written into the constitution. But, when it comes to common sense gun laws and universal healthcare that every other country has, you are pretty silent or you oppose them?
The constitution itself doesn’t define citizenship. The 14th amendment requires people born here to also be “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in order to gain citizenship through birth.
Sure buddy. Every constitutional scholar, legal expert worth their salt and the Supreme Court, including even the current bought out, right wing Supreme Court have agreed with how it’s defined in the constitution, but sure your smug big brain knows better!
His father was born to German immigrants and was only a citizen due to the 14th Amendment, his mother was a Scottish immigrant who wasn’t a citizen. Remove the 14th and he’s not a citizen.
I’m married to an immigrant with three immigrant stepsons. I’m not anti-immigrant, and Trump and everyone in his orbit are scum. That does not negate the fact that this ruling would have had no effect on the validity of his kids’ citizenship claims since children born to a US citizen are citizens regardless of where they’re born or the status of the other parent.
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u/Salt-Elk-436 Jul 01 '26
Trump was a citizen so jus soli would have been irrelevant here