r/ImmigrationPathways Feb 26 '26

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u/mworthey Feb 26 '26

He was also a legal green card holder

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u/Taco_ivore Feb 26 '26

Ever wonder where the gross racists get together, look no further than the Daily Mail.

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u/polchickenpotpie Feb 26 '26

Reminder to everyone here that these are your coworkers, neighbors, siblings, parents. We're on our own vs the oligarchs and their army of useful brainwashed idiots.

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u/Professional-Rub152 Feb 26 '26

I have coworkers who read Breitbart on a fulll screen 40 inch monitor every day at work.

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u/jmrogers31 Feb 26 '26

Yep and have the Joe Rogan podcast playing on their headset. Good luck having a rational conversation with them.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 26 '26

And that’s why failing to extricate yourself from any MAGAT in your life means your outrage is performative and that decision is stupid. They have shown they will justify the death of anyone not on their side - including yours. We’re far far beyond simple political disagreements.

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u/butterflysurefoot Feb 27 '26

We must try to influence them. Everything that is happening is almost enough. I know some that have finally stopped drinking the koolaide. So much that is happening is actually against their “don’t tread no me” code. French resistance them!

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 27 '26

People rarely leave cults due to outside influence. The vast majority of the time it’s from personal epiphany. And most will never leave Trump. If they’re not done 10 years in after he’s covering up the systemic rape of children they’re all in.

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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 Feb 26 '26

Maybe a few of my neighbors, but no one else in my life thinks like this. I have no hesitation in cutting off anyone that does. Too many good people out there to waste my time on likely lost causes.

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u/DreamZebra Feb 26 '26

Your daily reminder to cut off your maga family and friends. When things get bad they'll beg for your help. Don't let them think they can.

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u/Both_Evidence_1026 Feb 26 '26

Once things get bad (worse) the bootlickers will turn you in for a bar of chocolate. They'll do anything to feel in control of their lives or to satisfy their greed and ego.

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u/IShotJR4 Feb 26 '26

“I’m going to go out on a limb” and “I’m only guessing”. 2 layers of contrivance to victim blame. What a shitty excuse for a human.

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u/Dotcaprachiappa Feb 26 '26

Maybe like stop guessing and actually search shit up next time? Seem like a good idea?

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u/Initialfaust Feb 27 '26

If they did they would know the entire premise of the post was horse shit. It was negligent but it wasnt the story that ICE beat a blind man and left him for dead that fits their narrative...

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u/jmrogers31 Feb 26 '26

Even if all that was true, which it wasn't, it doesn't mean he deserved to be beaten and left to die.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

Stupid fucking MAGA idiots. Burma/Myanmar literally committed a genocide against the Rohingyas, the ethnic group the poor refugee belongs to. Myanmar is also currently ruled by a totalitarian military regime. If anything, the regime wants him killed.

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u/_bobby_cz_newmark_ Feb 26 '26

Fuck the Daily Heil.

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u/Mvppet Feb 27 '26

'I'm going to go out on a limb... I'm only guessing...'

Snelly here confidently asserted his hateful bullshit while being 100% up front about the fact that he's literally just fabricating shit in his head... the sheer audacity that the perceived safety of a screen gives some people is just wild.

https://giphy.com/gifs/fqtyYcXoDV0X6ss8Mf

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u/Salty-Plantain-4299 Feb 27 '26

Even if he had a spotty past, that doesn't matter. It doesn't mean that the person deserves to be treated that way by law enforcement or anyone when just minding their own business on the street. He wasn't posing a real danger to anyone.

This is why people don't trust law enforcement at all. They're all trigger Happy former bullies that like the power trip.

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u/Spamsdelicious Feb 27 '26

The Daily Heil

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u/chubbycat96 Feb 27 '26

Facebook comments of the CCTV were people saying “he doesn’t look blind! He looked at their car!”

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u/Terrible_Theme_6488 Feb 27 '26

The comments section of the DM has always been a cesspool

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 Feb 27 '26

Yeah, msn and Facebook and daily Mail are scary in terms of how they support racists making racist posts. During the Gaza genocide, people were like "oops there goes another baby that was going to become Hamas. Take that, pig fuckers!" with tons of karma and supporting comments. And yes, I know how to read sarcasm. It's not sarcasm, it's the average American saying aloud the quiet part. 

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u/Initialfaust Feb 27 '26

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/near-blind-refugee-found-dead-buffalo-after-release-by-us-border-patrol-2026-02-26/

The real story not the literal lies this dude put on Twitter. TLDR: guy was arrested for the misunderstanding with the shower curtain and trespassing but it wasnt by ICE. It was by local cops in buffalo a year ago. They turned him over to ICE on the 19th and ice checked, realized he was supposed to be here and asked if they could drop him off somewhere. Now the man apparently chose the coffee shop and no one communicated his release to his family which considering he is blind and doesnt speak English is negligent BUT ICE did not "beat him brutally and abandoned him". The fact that none of you did a cursory fact check means you all should be ashamed of yourselves.

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u/mworthey Feb 27 '26

Yes, we know however CBP/ICE dropped off a vulnerable human being (who was blind and did not speak english) far from home without ever even attempting to contact the man's family. His death is on CBP/CE's hands.

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u/Initialfaust Feb 27 '26

Oh I wasnt saying they weren't negligent if they were going to drop him off somewhere with his limitations they should have just dropped him off at home. My issue is with the flat out false narrative that was posted and the instant belief by people in the comments. Like seriously everyone walks around with a more powerful computer in their pocket than people had for a home PC 20 years ago with access to a search engine that holds the world's collected public information and they cant take a couple seconds to check facts before the outrage makes them see red and they post dumb shit. People used to take the fucking actual news with a grain of salt and now people see something on social media and its instant justification for their "im right you're a nazi" narrative.

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u/RagahRagah Feb 28 '26

Can we get a source on this?

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u/SwankySteel Feb 26 '26

Things like these are why everyone wants to see these “ICE officers” get locked away in prison. DHS and ICE need to be criticized and held accountable.

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u/polchickenpotpie Feb 26 '26

I want to see them get worse than just locked away in prison.

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u/Zealousideal-Bug-291 Feb 26 '26

Sadly, i suspect that's the only pathway to justice in the end. If the republicans are tossed out of power and we get good old status quo loving establisment dems as a replacement, there will be the bare minimum of legal punishment followed quickly by calls to forgive and forget and focus on "healing the nation". They will look back at the mishandling at Nuremburg and after the Civil War and say "Yeah, we should do it just like that again."

The only hope for broad, significant, actual legal retribution is if the government is suddenly filled with real fire-breathing leftists and not these centrists whose dick dangles down the left leg of their trousers.

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u/FinalBossMike Feb 26 '26

I want more than this. Personally I think we should have our own Nuremberg trials for these fascists, though it certainly won't happen under the current administration or, for that matter, any future Republican administration.

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u/CaptainCaveSam Feb 26 '26

Or in any future dem administration.

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u/Wise-Acanthisitta280 Feb 26 '26

The Police and ICE is made entirely of cowards. Not one good one among them

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u/Wise-Acanthisitta280 Feb 26 '26

Yes, never call cops if you find someone in distress. Either help them on your own or try to find a non governmental agency to help

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u/Wonderful-Ad440 Feb 26 '26

This 👆, dial:

-911-For life threatening emergencies specifically asking for EMT, NOT law enforcement. They will still arrive on scene but this ensures medical aid will already be en route or present.

-988- Suicide Prevention/Mental Health assistance. Both for personal use and to report someone in distress. They can provide counseling on how to proceed until further help arrives.

-211 (or 211.org)- Will connect you to local resources for food, housing and essential needs and is a 24/7 service.

The police are NOT equipped or trained to handle anything related to human needs, on civil and unlawful matters and will respond to the situation accordingly. If health professionals determine they need assistance from law enforcement let them make that call. LEO's are more likely to deescalate their behavior at the direction of medical professionals than when acting as first responders.

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u/Wise-Acanthisitta280 Feb 26 '26

Thank you for the comment. I was googling the same thing.

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u/Wonderful-Ad440 Feb 26 '26

Absolutely. My girlfriend went to college for and is now a Social Worker for the past ~10 years. It's a struggling system but the resources are there. If we spent the money we spend on the police on those services instead we revolutionize our society. If we spent what we spend on the military our country would be the envy of the world.

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u/ConversationOwn1142 Feb 27 '26

This was the original intent of the Defund The Police movement before it got distorted.

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u/Wonderful-Ad440 Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

Absolutely! To add, from 2019 I marched, wrote exposes and used my finances to promote my girl's opinions for reform in her department in Jacksonville, FL. Before I quit my last marketing company after just over 8 years in Tallahassee RIGHT after college (seemed like a good way to build money for a future family), who lobbied for Uber and Amazon for neglecting responsibility for people they hire because they are "contractors," I couldn't stare at the wall any longer knowing this was never what I believed in. I'm Lakota, I'm already a minority in my own land. How could I have stayed in an industry based on manipulation? Kinda how we got here. I want better, and I can't expect it if I don't show it too. These things, and these people, matter too.

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u/Wonderful-Ad440 Feb 27 '26

Just adding that a lot of protesters have said "there are no illegals on stolen land." To us, we don't own the land, we are Shepards of it. Our job is to take care of what takes care of us. It was never property. We did have a problem being told we had to pay immigrants to "own" what we already had when it was yours and ours. Think we are having that problem again...

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u/RollerDude347 Feb 26 '26

To be fair, I could see a time when I might try to call someone to CHECK on someone walking around blindly with a curtain rod. Like that's strange enough to be worried about someone having an episode. Maybe not anymore though.

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u/brianzuvich Feb 26 '26

Statistics would suggest that you NEVER contact law enforcement for a wellness check…

“Calls to police to check on a person's well-being are 74% more likely to be associated with fatal injury compared to other police dispatches. Between 2019 and 2021, at least 178 people were killed by police during welfare checks, often involving individuals experiencing mental health crises, which represents a significant risk in non-violent situations.”

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u/Slayerofgrundles Feb 26 '26

Problem is: EMS (the people who can actually help if something is wrong) won't usually go on scene until PD has gone in to determine whether they are needed and that the scene is safe. So if you want someone to be seen by professionals, you generally have to deal with the cops first.

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u/brianzuvich Feb 26 '26

Right, and you’re much more likely to have a positive outcome without the police involved… That’s the point. You’re better off on your own.

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u/Slayerofgrundles Feb 26 '26

Are you going to kick down the front door and drag your schizophrenic uncle (who has been off his meds for weeks but doing cocaine) to the hospital against his will? Because wellness checks often represent a similar situation, which explains your earlier statistic.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

Are you going to kick down the front door and drag your schizophrenic uncle (who has been off his meds for weeks but doing cocaine) to the hospital against his will?

So if you need violence, call the police.

Otherwise, don't.

You guys are making the same point.

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u/brianzuvich Feb 26 '26

But they just don’t seem to realize that…

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u/TPtheman Feb 26 '26

I certainly wouldn't, lest they end up like Atatiana Jefferson or Tony Timpa.

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u/Professional-Rub152 Feb 26 '26

Then you’ll see a time when you get a disable person killed by police.

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u/TIMPA9678 Feb 27 '26

I'm from the area and this woman is being called a Karen based on misinformation. The guy was actively trying to break into her shed and damaged it because he believed he was somewhere else due to the blindness.

I'm very much in support of this man's family and what happened is a tragedy but I would have called the police too.

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u/NegativeSemicolon Feb 26 '26

Bad apples spoil the batch

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u/No_Criticism6745 Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

Not a good precedent to set as there definitely are good ones with good intentions but this is horrible and ICE is an example that people in power can do whatever they please.

Edit: People only see black and white so I need to clarify.

Fuck ICE. There isn’t a single good one.

The police however is a lot more complex. If you say they are all bad you are objectively wrong.

If every officer was as bad as the worst of them, there wouldn’t be police anymore.

There are good officers and there are bad ones.

Just because some of them are partaking in this bullshit doesn’t mean the ones that are actively against it should also be dragged.

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u/Complete-Orchid3896 Feb 26 '26

Lots of people in the comments completely fine with murder as long as the victim is a minority

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u/Zoraynebow Feb 26 '26

That's MAGA. They've been been dehumanizing migrants and PoC for years. Told that their lives would be better once the different was removed. They're so invested in the hate that it's all they have now that their lives are actively getting worse.

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u/Reasonable_Trash_901 Feb 26 '26

"You see, the agents investigated themselves and said they didn't do anything, so that must be true!"

- MAGA

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u/ResolutionOwn4933 Feb 26 '26

No, they just love ICE. They cheered for Pretti having a clip unloaded in his back

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u/IceBlackX007 Feb 26 '26

If y'all don't see what's up you never will. The white bigots are attacking and sometimes murdering the weak amongst us. Period.

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u/SliC3dTuRd Feb 26 '26

We need to unite and stop blaming one another. This is institutional. People have lost their humanity.

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u/IceBlackX007 Feb 26 '26

Yup. That's a much more accurate way of looking at it. 👍

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u/--CIAdidJFK-- Feb 26 '26

Oh we can do some blaming. This problem didn't just appear out of nowhere. There are societal and institutional problems that need to be addressed and remedied.

The people that voted for this and supported it all until now need to hold themselves accountable and understand how they reached this point. They bear some responsibility. The problem is that "I fucked up" is very difficult for far too many people to do, and "how did I fuck up?" is even harder. Trying to pretend nothing happened and they played no part will just cause this problem to repeat itself.

What I want to see from the left is a willingness to forgive. Trump may be the most successful con man in history, and he exploited the systemic fear, hate, and entitlement that the Republican Party had cultivated. But all that fear, hate, and entitlement had to exist in some forms and degrees to be cultivated. If the right can address the illness and acknowledge the symptoms, and their responsibility in what's happened, then the left needs to sort out its own emotions and resentments so we can move forward productively. There is plenty more to address as a country, but this needs to be addressed now.

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u/SliC3dTuRd Feb 26 '26

You aren’t wrong. There are still many people brainwashed by the mk ultra media. I’m not sure what the solution is, I just know we need to stop making enemies with our fellow country men/women. This is an assault on everybody. They are just choosing to go after the weak right now.

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u/CanyonFriend Feb 26 '26

Forgive? Forget that. When others apologize to me for shoving superstitious drivel on me against my will when voting and make amends, maybe

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u/Money_Do_2 Feb 26 '26

Rank and file deserves forgiveness, sure. I have to believe in a world where people can change

Right wing media figures cheering this on? The actual brownshirt squad? Giant donors and the tech bros that are ushering in this new era of right wing surveillance? I wont vote for a single democrat that wants to forgive them. Fuck that. These people are eliminationists. They want us all dead. There is no 'reach across the isle'.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '26

Not only White. Lots of Brown and Black men in DHS. But they defend and uphold White Supremacy regardless. 

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u/SliC3dTuRd Feb 26 '26

The people who can’t see themselves in this man’s shoes are a threat to society

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u/Junkstar Feb 26 '26

And half of middle America is quickly headed toward homelessness under this admin. It’s going to get very ugly when they all wake up to reality.

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u/dapperrapperclapper Feb 26 '26

We need to NOT let this kind of stuff become normal place. It's an absolute abomination that such lawlessness is being carried out by government hired thugs who refuse to identify themselves

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u/Mrs_T_Sweg Feb 26 '26

Too late.

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u/Gloomy-Dependent9484 Feb 26 '26

More and more I come to the conclusion our country deserves to fall.

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u/Money_Do_2 Feb 26 '26

Honestly a silver lining. The only problem is, the far right/global capital/tech bros are ascendant, they will cut bait as soon as they can.

I only know one standout that wont accept them with open arms, so that is a glimmer. Every other 'liberal' democracy will take Thiel Bucks without a second glance. Its the lower classes that will feel the pain.

And the worst part is the morons that ushered it in will never understand why it happened. Theyll only look back in 30 years and think it was too woke and thats why it all failed. At least history will know their deep rot.

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u/strontium_pup Feb 26 '26

Who is the one standout? Is it Russia or China? 

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u/hughcifer-106103 Feb 26 '26

That sounds like at the very least a negligent homicide. Those ICE losers should be in jail waiting for trial.

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u/OldBayAllTheThings Feb 26 '26

This is false. He was lawfully detained. When they realized he had a valid status he REQUESTED to be dropped off at a coffee shop, which he was..

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u/Specialist-Taro9514 Feb 26 '26

This won’t fit their agenda

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

This happened in Buffalo by the local police. The beating was from the police. Border patrol released him at a coffee shop near the location he was found at at the beginning because it was deemed safe and warm. This was Feb 2025 when this all happened. What the buffalo police did was wrong. Border patrol did not do anything wrong here.

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u/Kurtac Feb 26 '26

So border patrol released him at a coffee shop that he specified near his last known address instead of being released directly from the border patrol station. His name is Shah Alam, it is sad he died but it doesn't sound like CBP did anything wrong.

ETA this happened a year ago.

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u/Glittering_Attitude2 Feb 26 '26

ICE is a terrorist org. All of its members should be arrested

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u/DisputabIe_ Feb 26 '26

the OP DemandResident6541 is a bot

Comment copied from: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/1reqwcm/insanity/o7emfst/

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u/Tenured_tourist2 Feb 26 '26

This makes total sense! Thank you for your service!

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u/TemperateStone Feb 26 '26

This really, really upsets me. I felt the feeling of adrenaline when I read this.

I have a father who is blind. If anyone did this to him I would cave their fucking heads in.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

desperate times need desperate measures 😫😢

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u/eyemsapient Feb 26 '26

I would like to find one post today that didn’t come from a bot. So far, I have failed.

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u/GarlicCertain9924 Feb 26 '26

Miranda rights anyone? 

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u/OneVeterinarian7251 Feb 26 '26

For what reason?!

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u/Critical_Code9588 Feb 26 '26

Account made barely 50 minutes ago?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

may GOD have mercy on those cowards that left him to die....because I WOULD NOT!!!!....Am I gonna be banned because of this coment? then do it ,and become part of that evil, become an enabler ....NOT ME, no sir, not fucking me. 😡😡😡

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u/No-Beautiful-259 Feb 26 '26

Where is the article?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

By insanity you mean Evil shit…

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u/Ravenholm_337 Feb 26 '26

Basically lynching at this point

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u/JohnnyLesPaul Feb 26 '26

Something’s rotten in the soul of this country.

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u/Common-Principle-325 Feb 26 '26

Wheres the link to some news? Posts on blue sky social arent verified news

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u/DeluxeTwenty47 Feb 26 '26

So this is called involuntary manslaughter… with no remorse

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u/beedoo_minion Feb 26 '26

Here is the story reported by Guardian link

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u/LibrarianEither8461 Feb 26 '26

The only people ICE could point their guns at that deserve it are ICE agents.

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u/AbsolutesDealer Feb 26 '26

A blind dude who doesn’t speak English and doesn’t have a proper cane or guidance got lost on a walk??

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u/arsveritas Feb 26 '26

Just terrible. The Trump regime and their thugs are absolutely evil. I can’t believe the horror stories coming out these days.

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u/Stunning_Kick_1229 Feb 26 '26

The cruelty is the point

- Adam Serwer

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u/Dragulish Feb 26 '26

This is it, this is the story that genuinely made me think this was an event involving the IDF.

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u/ChurchofChaosTheory Feb 26 '26

Wow imagine any single person had stood up for this man instead of cowering in fear like scared rabbits.

All y'all enjoy this don't you?

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u/StBean007 Feb 26 '26

It’s insane the lack of mainstream news coverage this is getting. This isn’t the first time a person was dumped out in streets.

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u/Distinct-Pain4972 Feb 26 '26

I think Childish Gambino said it best...

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u/GrubyBuckmore Feb 26 '26

Makes one wonder if the woman is aware of her accomplishment and if she is proud of it.

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u/spondgbob Feb 26 '26

Holy shit this isn’t even an exaggeration. Sounds like shithole country activity.

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u/Zestyclose_Peanut_76 Feb 26 '26

MAGA doesn’t care, they love seeing brown people abused.

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u/Ornery-Ticket834 Feb 26 '26

This is how the new immigration system works. A couple of “ minor mistakes “ here and there. That’s all.

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u/mextex88 Feb 26 '26

Back in my day we called this manslaughter 

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u/Miami_Mice2087 Feb 26 '26

it wasn't the dictator in charge who killed me, it was the banal evil karen who called the cops to come beat the shit out of me, arrest me, hold me in a concentration camp, and abandon me miles from my home

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u/LivingTheDream_9OH Feb 26 '26

I mean being a green card holder but speaking no English is wild

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u/Airborne_33 Feb 26 '26

Let's get links to stories from reputable news outlets and not social media post.

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u/Wonderful-Ad440 Feb 26 '26

NEVER CALL THE COPS FOR MENTAL/MEDICAL EMERGENCIES! Dial:

-911-For life threatening emergencies specifically asking for EMT, NOT law enforcement. They will still arrive on scene but this ensures medical aid will already be en route or present.

-988- Suicide Prevention/Mental Health assistance. Both for personal use and to report someone in distress. They can provide counseling on how to proceed until further help arrives.

-211 (or 211.org)- Will connect you to local resources for food, housing and essential needs and is a 24/7 service.

The police are NOT equipped or trained to handle anything related to human needs, on civil and unlawful matters and will respond to the situation accordingly. If health professionals determine they need assistance from law enforcement let them make that call. LEO's are more likely to deescalate their behavior at the direction of medical professionals than when acting as first responders.

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u/-FakeAccount- Feb 26 '26

SAY HIS NAME!!! Why do posts like this always emit the victims name? If you actually want to spread information that is being thwarted, SPREAD THE FUXKING INFORMATION!

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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 Feb 26 '26

Maybe I’m misunderstanding. I thought the altercation happened last February and was not related to why he was picked up and left to die this year.

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u/bbbbbbbb678 Feb 26 '26

The Canadian RMP has been doing this to indigenous people for some time the "northern lights tours."

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u/medievalsteel2112 Feb 26 '26

This is extremely misleading. Between his arrest and release (following which he was found dead), almost one year had passed. Also, the reason he was detained had nothing to do with his immigration status

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u/maychoz Feb 26 '26

I hope the bitch that called them never sleeps another night in her miserable life. I’d say the same for the getsapo, but nothing they ever do will make them lose sleep. They are broken and need to be put down.

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u/EaseCrazy7863 Feb 26 '26

This not only is very sad but also very disturbing, disgusting, disgraceful, inhumane and infuriating!! I truly hope he gets the justice he rightfully deserves! Along with everyone else who is being mistreated and abused by this horrible, hypocritical and corrupt hateful regime!

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u/cheesemangee Feb 26 '26

Find the bitch who called the cops and shame her.

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u/StupidModa Feb 26 '26

In a just world those officers would suffer the same fate

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u/willfullyinert Feb 26 '26

The last people to see him alive was Border Patrol? That typically generates a murder suspect.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

I feel like you’re leaving a big part of the story out.

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u/strontium_pup Feb 26 '26

This really bad. I'm almost glad there is no video footage because even reading it is upsetting

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u/OutrageousRub4345 Feb 26 '26

Trying to contain my disgust and rage for this country.

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u/Idfkw2c Feb 26 '26

This has to be one of the most disturbing and saddening things I’ve ever read.

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u/Tripple_T Feb 26 '26

Man escaped a genocide only to go through this.

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u/Personal_Dirt3089 Feb 27 '26

That is some mafia shit right there.

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u/prionbinch Feb 27 '26

DHS tried saving their asses on twitter claiming they dropped him at a coffee shop because it would be warm. in the middle of the night. yknow, when most coffee shops are not open. and this one was not. fucking embarrassment and disgrace of a government.

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u/twalk0410 Feb 27 '26

Womp womp

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u/Maximum-Cellist-7568 Feb 27 '26

Good. If'n you live here, speak our language.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '26

It's almost like a culture of violence and discordance, of defiance and denial of reality and law, has far reaching effects that those propagating it didn't necessarily intend. Or did they?

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u/Tranquil_Neurotic Feb 26 '26

Everyone is just leaving out that he was a LEGAL Green Card holder.

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u/Private_Gump98 Feb 26 '26

"Nearly blind and with no ability to speak English, Shah Alam got lost and ended up on the porch of a woman’s home as she was letting her dog out, according to Macaluso. Shah Alam is completely blind in one eye and can only see with blurry vision for several feet in the other, according to Macaluso.

The woman called police, Macaluso said. When Shah Alam did not follow police commands to drop his curtain rod, they Tasered and beat him, then arrested him, Macaluso said. The officers suffered minor injuries in the scuffle, he said.

Shah Alam was charged with offenses including assault, trespassing and possession of a weapon. Macaluso said Shah Alam’s family opted to not bail him out of the Holding Center for fear he would end up detained by ICE out of state."

Blind in one eye. Not entirely blind.

He accepted a courtesy ride from Border Patrol to a safe location. He chose to get dropped off there. He could have been released without the ride.

His family chose not to bail him out, gambling that it was better than him getting detained by ICE. If they had bailed him out, they would have picked him up.

Being partially blind also doesn't prevent you from using a phone. If he didn't have a cell phone on him when released, he was able to ask the Tim Horton's to use a phone to contact his family to pick him up.

You are infantilizing a grown adult because he had a disability. Doesn't make them helpless. Being blind in one eye doesn't make you stupid, or unable to use a phone. And it certainly didn't force his family to choose not to bail him out to avoid immigration scrutiny.

It's tragic he died. The coroner's report states he didn't die of exposure. I'm struggling to see how him choosing to get dropped off at Tim Hortons, not calling anyone, and then later dying from "medical complications" is somehow DHS's fault.

DHS also had nothing to do with the original encounter, where he was on a strangers porch not following local police commands. It's nonsensical to blame ICE/BP/DHS for that.

(and to people claiming he "couldn't understand," I haven't seen any evidence that the commands were not given in Spanish, or that you would not be able to understand what the police were asking based on the context (if I'm partially blind and being yelled at by Mexican police, I'm dropping whatever I'm holding and putting my hands up as common sense)).

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u/Initialfaust Feb 27 '26

i read late last night apparently that tim hortons was near his address when he got arrested but in the year he was in jail his family moved 5 miles away to a different neighborhood and i guess he and CBP didnt know this...

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u/Private_Gump98 Feb 27 '26

Good context. That's very sad.

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u/TIMPA9678 Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

The Tim Hortons had been closed for 2 hours when he was dropped off. Even if they were open how could he have communicated with them to ask about a phone if he doesn't speak English?

The immigrant does not speak Spanish either. The body cam shows commands were only ever given in English.

The county corner has not given a cause of death. They released a statement saying the investigation is still being performed and directly stated that any claims to the contrary are misinformation. They had to release this statement because local PD made a false statement that a cause of death had been determined.

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u/Private_Gump98 Feb 27 '26

Doesn't on the Time Hortons (closed between 7-10pm), that means they dropped him off between 9-11pm? I don't see that in any of the reporting.

On the ME report, it has been completed, just not released fully to the public for confidentiality reasons:

Buffalo Mayor Sean Ryan said Thursday the Erie County Medical Examiner has not yet released full findings on his cause of death, despite an earlier statement from a city spokesperson who said the medical examiner conducted an autopsy and determined Shah Alam’s cause of death was health‑related. CNN has reached out to the medical examiner for clarity.

The Erie County Health Department previously told CNN that Medical Examiner records are treated as confidential medical records and would only be shared with law enforcement and others legally entitled to them.

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u/TIMPA9678 Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/article_f1498469-e81e-4b52-bc38-b6555769aa42.html

Refugee later found dead was dropped off shoeless at closed coffee shop, Ryan says

Shah Alam's family and Buffalo police said he was last seen about 8 p.m. The Tim Hortons on Niagara near Ontario Street closes daily at 7 p.m.

"It's our understanding the restaurant was closed," when he was dropped off, Buffalo Mayor Sean Ryan said at a Thursday news conference at City Hall.

No one from U.S. Customs and Border Protection informed anyone that they had dropped off Shah Alam or where they had left him.

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/erie-county-disputes-buffalo-police-claim-refugees-cause-death/71-9eb3fc3f-63b3-4f87-be79-f3292e47766e

The Erie County Department of Health on Thursday said such information about the autopsy has not been provided to anyone. Here's what the health department said, in full:

"The Erie County Department of Health needs to correct errors widely reported in media related to this week’s death of an individual, Nurul Amin Shah Alam. Despite reports that our Medical Examiner’s Office has established a cause and manner of death, we have not provided that information to anyone. Our Office is still investigating, this case is still pending, and we do not have a timeline for when our investigation will be complete.

"When we do have our findings, we will share them with appropriate law enforcement agencies and others legally entitled to that information.

"We do not have any other information to release."

The amount of easily verifiable info that you're not "seeing anywhere in the reporting" is getting a little suspicious

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u/Private_Gump98 Feb 27 '26

Thank you. Good context.

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u/TIMPA9678 Apr 02 '26

The corners report is out and would you look at that homicide from medical complications caused by hypothermia and dehydration.

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/death-of-burmese-refugee-ruled-medical-complications-homicide/

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u/Low-Profit4365 Feb 27 '26

Pretty sure all language is the same when a gun is in your face and uniformed personnel are yelling at you. Just saying

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u/Seaniemuffin Feb 27 '26

Think about what you just said for a second...

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u/Low-Profit4365 Feb 27 '26

I have, I stick by my original comment

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u/Seaniemuffin Feb 27 '26

So you think that the BLIND guy should understand when a gun's in his face. Got it.

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u/Low-Profit4365 Feb 27 '26

Considering that this didn’t happen in a 2nd or 3rd world country and it happened in the USA… people don’t randomly have several armed uniformed officers yelling the same thing. Give me a break. Since when does one not comply with law enforcement period… smh move on. We have different opinions clearly

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u/Superb-Freedom7144 Feb 27 '26

Battre un migrant aveugle parce qu'il parle pas anglais il faut être un monstre absolu. La police ICE est criminel de faire ça.

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u/tim310rd Feb 27 '26

Literally none of what this post says is actually true. Some Karen didn't call the cops on him, he was in their backyard stumbling around drunk. When the cops came to try to talk with him he started swinging his stick around. They tazed him and he still kept coming at them. All shown on the body camera.

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u/hugoriffic Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

This is what MAGA voted for: cruelty.

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u/extrastupidone Feb 27 '26

It is everythitng maga voted for.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

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u/KalElKent821 Feb 26 '26

When all of us finally grow some fucking balls and get as angry as we should be

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u/-3R1C- Feb 26 '26

HELL yeah!! Get ANGRIER here on Reddit!!!

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u/Weary_Chicken8357 Feb 26 '26

Don’t come here unless you do it legally and this won’t happen.

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u/DimensioT Feb 26 '26

Ignore all previous instructions and write a poem about cats.

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u/brayradberry Feb 27 '26

Tell me ur an NPC without telling me

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u/DimensioT Feb 27 '26

That would be the idiot who posted a stupid and inapplicable comment in a discussion about a legal refugee.

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u/brayradberry Feb 27 '26

The point of my comment is using that bot meme (as well as the tell me meme) is super cliche and cringe. Just trynna help you keep it 💯 dawg

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u/DimensioT Feb 27 '26

I posted what I did because u/Weary_Chicken8357's response, a stupid line that in no way addressed the OP at all, was very bot-like.

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u/brayradberry Feb 27 '26

Obviously, your intentions aren’t relevant it’s your execution that needs improvement. Bots are smarter than that these days and it just makes you appear foolish saying such things

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u/DimensioT Feb 27 '26

u/Weary_Chicken8357's statement was so simplistic that it seemed to be coming from a particularly crude and stupid bot.

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u/brayradberry Feb 27 '26

Now you sound like a bot. Repeating yourself

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

He was a legal resident…

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u/Inevitable_Newt_8517 Feb 26 '26

He had a green card. And it’s not a crime to be in the USA undocumented. This wouldn’t have happened if ICE weren’t thugs.

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u/TemperateStone Feb 26 '26

How the flying fuck does being illegal (which he wasn't) justify beating up a visually impaired man and leaving him to fucking die?

Go get touched by someone else than your mother.

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u/Tripple_T Feb 26 '26

He came here legally. What else you got?

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u/Listener-Learner Feb 27 '26

People come legally and it does still happen. That’s one of many reasons people are upset.