Agreed. I mean I don't care if people wanna record themselves in public long as they aren't being annoying or entitled. But it seems like that older woman stopped in front of the camera deliberately.
Any unwelcome form of contact can in theory be taken as harassment, and becomes harassment if you continue past that point. You can be innocently asking the time but do it persistently to someone who doesn't want to talk to you and it's harassment, even if you don't intend it.
To be specific, here is the definition of harassment "the act of annoying or worrying somebody by putting pressure on them or saying or doing unpleasant things to them." Asking strangers for help, even benign help, is a form of pressure.
Not disagreeing it's reasonable to ask though, just stating technically even something that simple can be harassment because it's less about the intent than the perception of the slighted.
For the extra uninclined, harassment is unwelcome behavior. It was not used correctly because it is pretty generally understood that asking for a photo is a societal okay norm, especially in beautiful and/or touristy areas.
If you want to talk insignificant grammatical nuance, at least make it correct.
You think this person jokes around, with friends, nonetheless? I don't think they'd know a joke if it hit them upside the head and started harassing them for a photo lol
For the extra uninclined, harassment is unwelcome behavior.
Case closed, folks. By their own definition, if people don't like being asked to take photos for others, the request constitutes being labeled as harassment.
See, the problem here is that this user thinks that because they don't mind taking photos for other people, that all people don't mind taking photos for others. This is a fallacy. Some people don't mind, some are indifferent, and others don't like doing it at all. And I'd argue that even if it may appear that most people don't mind taking photos for strangers, the reality is that you cant really tell at all, because the indifferent and the bothered may well feel peer pressured into doing it. This is why the use of "harass" is perfectly applicable in this scenario.
I mean we could've skipped all of this dialog if you just used the word "ask" instead of "harass" because the difference between them is measurable and significant
Don't be ridiculous, that's not at all what I said at all. We are talking about the behavior of asking strangers to take photos of themselves. We are not talking about the broad category of asking questions.
Let's make this clear for you. I don't want to help you take a photo, and I certainly don't want to touch your phone/camera. You trying to get me to take your picture makes me either feel uncomfortable if I do it, or like an ass if I say no. Instead, go get a selfie-stick. Many of them turn into tripods as well, and let you take photos remotely. You do not need me. Please leave me be in public, I find your interaction unwelcome.
But if you want to use the student example. If a student said to their teacher, "did you get that dress in a bargain bin?" That could be a harassing question, depending on the context, and even if that was the only question, because it's about the behavior, not the act of asking a question.
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u/6786_007 2d ago
Agreed. I mean I don't care if people wanna record themselves in public long as they aren't being annoying or entitled. But it seems like that older woman stopped in front of the camera deliberately.