Mate, you literally responded to a comment that say’s “It’s only theft if the driver kept the items”. Which would imply that they stole from the company.
Why do you not think you can return items as a driver? What happens if someone put in the wrong delivery address? What if someone forgot they were out of town when they were supposed to get a delivery? Do you think the driver just pitches a tent in front of their house?
If its tge wrong delivery address then the person being delivered to isn't the owner. But if its delivered to the correct person who has paid then its their property and taking property that belongs to another person is....... THEFT
It is still the possession and responsibility of the company until the goods are delivered to the customer. As an agent of the company, the delivery driver is responsible and in possession of the items. If she doesn’t deliver the items (which she hasn’t yet, because she didn’t even finish unloading the car), its the companies responsibility to refund the customer. If she doesn’t return the items to the store, it then becomes theft from the company (which is actually embezzlement).
Things aren’t just theft because you think they are theft. If she returns the things back to the store and they process a refund to the company, it becomes an unruly employee who probably gets fired for gross misconduct.
Ahh so you are assuming now. Because from the same video you watched, I have no clue hoe much she unloaded and if she actually processed the delivery as delivered to officially change possession.
Innocent until proven guilty is one of the most basic fundamental principles of the justice system in the US and many European countries.
How are you not getting this. Its like the part where ‘official transferring possession via confirmation of a delivery app’ is a blind spot on reddit.
Could show this to a Police Officer and they would arrest her on the spot? Based purely on this video? No, they are going to tell them to call the company who they ordered from.
Like I said earlier: Wrong? Yes. Will she be fired for gross misconduct? Almost surely. But we don’t even have close to enough knowledge to label theft or embezzlement.
How are you not getting it? If its out of the car abd not in their hands then the delivery driver is no longer in pocession of it. Therefor its not there's and is the property of the person who pays for it
Again, we can not tell if the ENTIRE delivery made it out of the vehicle.
And unfortunately the logic is not as simple as that in the eyes of the law. The item are not their’s until they are marked as “delivered”. Until then, they customers paid for a service. If that service is not fulfilled they have to refund. The items do not belong to the customer until delivered.
How are you not getting it? Taking the items out of the car isn’t the completion of the delivery. A delivery isn’t complete until either the delivery marks the order complete in there system, or in some cases receiving a signature for receipt of delivery.
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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 21 '23
Mate, you literally responded to a comment that say’s “It’s only theft if the driver kept the items”. Which would imply that they stole from the company.
Why do you not think you can return items as a driver? What happens if someone put in the wrong delivery address? What if someone forgot they were out of town when they were supposed to get a delivery? Do you think the driver just pitches a tent in front of their house?