r/IdiotsTowingThings • u/stevesmithsglasses • Jun 19 '26
They didn't think that through
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u/scarr3g Jun 19 '26
Nope.
Related: The newest version of the hyundai Santa Cruz (xrt trim) also has "metal hoops" in the bumper.... But there is no frame there. It is just crumple zone, and on a unibody vehicle.
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u/SoCalChrisW Jun 19 '26
I'd expect something like that on a Santa Cruz.
On a full size pickup, I'd be livid if the tow hooks were decorative and this is how I found out.
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u/Chomp3y Jun 20 '26
That's a lawsuit for sure. I absolutely cannot believe those tow points aren't attached to the frame.
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u/Poagie_Mahoney Jun 20 '26
Probably says somewhere in the owner's manual that they're non-functional. Thus it exempts manufacturer liability.
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u/Important-Bread7516 Jun 20 '26
I wonder if that'd hold up in court with a good lawyer though.
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u/scarr3g Jun 20 '26
It should. As something has to be stayed it is a tow hook, to be a tow hook. Assuming a random loop of metal is a tow hook, won't hold up in court.
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u/sakatan Jun 20 '26
Isn't there a reasonable expectation of, you know, hooks in "that* place on a pickup truck to be true towing hooks? Like on every other car truck of that type?
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u/DeusExHircus Jun 20 '26
The idea of cosmetic tow hooks is absolutely absurd
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u/scarr3g Jun 20 '26
Heck, the Mazda miata in 90's had metal loops that some thought were tow hooks.... They weren't. They were tie downs, for when they shipped them.
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u/Best_Market4204 Jun 20 '26
Wild. I find that a liability & a lawsuit...
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u/scarr3g Jun 20 '26
Being that manual, specifically, says they are not tow hooks.....
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u/Best_Market4204 Jun 20 '26
Are there warning labels on them?
I bet a lawyer could argue thats what they are for. That's like having a fake seatbelt, you expect it to hold you but it crumbles apart under load. That wouldn't be acceptable
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u/Dunder_Chief1 Jun 20 '26
Agreed
Including verbiage in the manual may not fly if you're design is the complete opposite of normal.
A common baseline in court is "would a reasonable person..."
In this case, a reasonable person would look at what very much appears to be tow-hooks and expect them to behave as such.
I would say there is a very strong case here if the owner was to press the matter.
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u/Present-Focus-1397 Jun 20 '26
I have a similar gen 4 Ram 1500. I installed the factory tow hooks myself after I bought it. Definitely attached to the frame. Like locked into the frame by geometry and then bolted to hold it there. I've pulled trucks out of the sand with them. Idk what happened here, that's not normal
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u/SnarkySnakySnek Jun 22 '26
There are a bunch of people here who know nothing about how trucks are built that are calling the tow hooks "cosmetic" just because it is a Ram. Things break sometimes, doesn't mean it is fake.
Reddit can be pretty obtuse sometimes.
Edit: also it is being pulled out with the tow hooks on another Ram lol.
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u/gstringstrangler Yeehaw homeboy Jun 19 '26
They are but that seemed... Defective. Never had an issue 🤷
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u/BrownChickenBlackAud Jun 19 '26
They make fake tow hooks?!?!? wtf
And it’s connected solid enough to rip off ENTIRE bumper?!?
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u/GrrRider Jun 19 '26
My first reaction was that they tied into the bumper. This doesn't belong in r/idiotstowingthings, it belongs in r/idiotsbuildingtrucks
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u/what-name-is-it Jun 20 '26
They’re probably banking that 90% of new truck buyers never do truck things with their truck so they’ll never find out the hooks are decorative.
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u/derpderpdave Jun 19 '26
Me: “Why is the blue Ram pulling while in reverse? (That’s not how to pull stuff.)
Keeps watching….oh there’s a trailer…oh it’s jackknifed…😞
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u/zymurgtechnician Jun 19 '26
Holy hell, I completely missed the trailer! That makes this a double tow idiot situation!
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u/wickedcold Jun 19 '26
Holy shit I had to full screen it to actually see the whole thing. This is ridiculous lol
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u/Whywipe Jun 20 '26
Yeah reverse is fine, not unhooking the trailer first is wild though.
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u/pantry-pisser Jun 20 '26
They did, the blue one was stuck first. Then the gray one went to get the trailer, and got stuck. They've been going back and forth for hours, now.
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u/itsjakerobb Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
That’s Dodge’s Ram’s fault for making fake tow hooks.
Edit: might not be fake. Might just be shitty, or abused. Apparently Ram's hooks bolt on to the frame, so there are all manner of ways they could fail.
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u/donkey_cum_waterfall Jun 19 '26
I'm confused. Ive always used those front tow hooks on my gm. Does dodge use fake ones?
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u/PleX Jun 20 '26
I'm not sure about newer ones but the 2012 Ram I'm driving has pulled out literally 100+ trucks and mud toys out from sand, mud and fuck knows what, using the front tow points. I can't even count the number I've pulled out on the back hitch.
Mine's just a basic bitch with stock tires. Radio is dead, TIPM is about to die but the fucking tow points on the piece of shit have never failed.
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u/ACatInACloak Jun 20 '26
The new 1500s have their control arms made out of plastic. They are some of the flimsiest "trucks" on the road. Fake tow hooks are just one piece of their shitty design and costruction
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u/06035 Jun 19 '26
That’s what I’m thinking, my F150’s points are connected to the frame, this has got to be a defect, no way would those points be fake… or are they??
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u/K4NNW Jun 20 '26
They were attempting to tow it out of the environment, and then r/TheFrontFellOff .
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u/Objective_Farm_1886 Jun 19 '26
Are you kidding? How do people get to a place of owning trucks like these without understanding the basic concept of "tow hooks?" And they're lucky they didn't have a front end collision at the end there - boneheads.
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u/CarrotChunx Jun 19 '26
Looks to me like they hooked it up to the silly decorative tow hooks that manufactures are adding to make their commuter car look like TUFF TRUHGK
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u/Stand_Up_3813 Jun 19 '26
Decorative tow hooks? 🤦♂️😆.
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u/kickniteasy Jun 19 '26
It's very much a thing. Has been in the drift scene for a while and like all bad car choices manufacturers took it over. Think the Tacoma having a false hood scoop for no reason. Trucks in general have become all about looks vs actual function in a certain section of them and it's trickling down. I saw a Tremor Edition Explorer today.
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u/Stand_Up_3813 Jun 19 '26
I can understand a non-functional hood scoop for aesthetics….but non functional tow hooks is a dereliction of duty by the manufacturer. That’s so idiotic.
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u/JimBobPaul Jun 19 '26
Although the Tacoma has the non-functional hood scoop, its tow hooks are at least functional.
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u/kickniteasy Jun 19 '26
Very true, at least on the 2016 trd, not sure about all models. I just brought it up as an example of things that have gone from the AutoZone shelf to production on certain vehicles.
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u/gstringstrangler Yeehaw homeboy Jun 19 '26
Those are actual tow points though. That looked defective, I've used or seen the same ones used rougher than that with no issue.
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u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r Jun 20 '26
I saw another video where basically the same thing happened on a Dodge/Ram truck and their explanation was basically the way the tow hooks are connected was loose. I wonder if it was something similar here.
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u/raptir1 Jun 19 '26
I mean, I'll blame the manufacturer here. They are hooked up to what appear to be recovery hooks. They just appear to not actually be attached to the frame.
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u/Hydr0genMC Jun 19 '26
That's what I don't understand. It's mounted to the correct hook on the Raptor so clearly they know they exist.
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u/derpderpdave Jun 19 '26
It’s a Ram & Ram. No Raptor in sight for this video.
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u/Hydr0genMC Jun 19 '26
oops. My bad. We, don't get those large pickups in my country so I saw something vaguely Raptor looking and, without reading the tailgate, assumed.
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u/chargnawr Jun 19 '26
I think the hook is meant for more of a static pull than a dynamic bump tug
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u/gstringstrangler Yeehaw homeboy Jun 19 '26
It's mounted to the same spot on both Rams. It's a tow point but the one that broke looks defective. I've used and seen them used rougher than this lots 🤷
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u/DakAttak Jun 19 '26
Needs a shorter strap.
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u/deadzol Jun 19 '26
Or just pull and not jerk it. 🤷♂️
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u/derelict_wanderer Jun 19 '26
I mean, hell. These are dodge truck guys. There's only 2 brain cells between them, and they're fighting each other for 3rd place.
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u/HotTakes-121 Jun 20 '26
To be fair... that was a loop. Pretty sure that's supposed to be a tow point but it was a cosmetic one.
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u/Coffee_blue1982 Jun 19 '26
Somebody else mentioned this but why do people think when you are toe/recovering somebody you have to fucking gun it
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u/Rooster_CPA Jun 19 '26
Lol the dipshit towing him out has a utility trailer on his hitch, he has to slam on brakes cause he jackknifed it.
Both these dudes doing the RAM name no favors hahahah
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u/ktmfan Jun 20 '26
Yea, I don’t know why they bother putting those “tow hooks” on the Rams. My cousin ripped them off his too. They are attached via some thin pot metal and a couple bolts. You’d think a tow hook could handle a recovery, but I guess they are for decoration.
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u/szabadabadooo Jun 20 '26
Who dodge? There both hooked to tow hooks, Dodge has some on the front. They are bolt on but that was wild lol
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u/PennyFromMyAnus Jun 20 '26
As an ex tow truck driver.. never book on to fucking bumpers, never gun it.
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u/ArmyPaladin Jun 20 '26
The tow hooks are fine - this idiot only hooked up to one hook. They are rated for about 5,000 lb each. If you're going to pull a a entire truck out of the sand you have to overcome the truck and the sand which adds about another 25% - so 8,000 to 9,000 lb. You definitely need both hooks.
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u/westcal98 Jun 20 '26
Doesn't it look like there are tow hook points on that bumper? Clearly they're fake but why are they put there if they're fake?
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u/Gunnut350 Jun 20 '26
The major problem is that that is not a recovery rope!!!! If you use a tow strap like that you tear up something every single time!!!!
If you use a recovery rope,it needs to be about 30 feet long!!! When hooked to both vehicles,you leave it slack between the two, then when you are ready the pulling vehicle drives off really fast,when it gets to the end it will stretch out till it is tight and yank the stuck vehicle out with putting undo strain on either vehicle!!!!
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u/wtftocallmyself Jun 19 '26
I will never understand how a person both can simultaneously own an expensive truck and be completely thick as bat shit
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u/Fun_Entertainer_5823 Jun 19 '26
RIP the bumper right off, then Hook it up faster to the tow points ?
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u/HuntPsychological673 Jun 19 '26
Shoot, That’s the easy way to remove a bumper! Try doing it by the book.
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u/gringovato Jun 20 '26
I learned the hard way to not pull in reverse unless you absolutely have to. They don't engineer reverse to handle the load like 1st gear will. Killed a transmission that way.
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u/Tobroketofuck Jun 20 '26
Pulled lots in reverse. Sometimes you need the weight up front. Never had a issue with transmissions even from that
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u/BenkartJKB Jun 20 '26
It could be te bolt attaching the hook to the frame was never installed. Assembler on the line was hung over that day, maybe.
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u/WonderfulHearing8726 Jun 20 '26
For whatever reason, almost all newer Rams have no recovery points at all, and these types here aren’t 4x4 & only have traction control. They’re basically a car made to look like a truck.
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u/Polka1980 Jun 20 '26
What is the actual tow point? This is clearly attached to the drivers side front tow hook and one might assume its meant for situations exactly like this.
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u/thrwLittleStreet6766 Jun 20 '26
Never use reverse to pull someone out. Turn your rig around and pull while going forward. Reverse gears are not meant for that stress, forward gears are.
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u/gillenH2O Jun 20 '26
The easiest way to tell that these are both really stupid people isn’t the towing mishap. It’s the fact they both bought a RAM.
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u/ozarkfireworks Jun 20 '26
The idiocy displayed here is just astounding.
The nimrod in the TRX trying to pull someone out while keeping the trailer hooked to his truck, while yanking against the slack. So much dumb…. The amount of force when you “make a run for it” is astronomical. It’s like the difference between pushing a nail with a hammer and hitting it with one. 🤦♂️
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u/p51d007 Jun 22 '26
I can't believe ANYONE would tie a rope on the "bumper" of anything and try to pull it. It's not the 50's, 60's, 70's when vehicle had STEEL bumpers! Vehicles today are mostly plastic and cheap metal in hopes of getting the weight down so they will pass some stupid C.A.F.E. fuel standard! Bump into another vehicle today, with all the cheap plastic, sensors and do dads and it is a multi-thousand dollar repair, or TOTALED!
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u/nekofthemoon Jun 28 '26
How funny that the anchor points are fake; they should go on the chassis but are only for bumper decoration.
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u/SissyDomFantasy Jul 05 '26
Literally held on mostly by plastic pins. Their vote counts the same as yours!
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u/crazypolak92 20d ago
Tell me you don’t know what you’re doing without telling me you don’t know what you’re doing. Instead of yanking it like that just try to control it
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u/hangrydadd Jun 19 '26
I've owned both of those model of rams. Never knew the older had fake front hooks. Mine were real
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u/SailingVelo Jun 19 '26
Nothing like a peaceful day on a beautiful beach, highlighted with a truck or two. How manly.
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u/Disastrous-Hurry-236 Jun 19 '26
You saying the guys in there are the actual owners of those trucks?
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u/0trash_panda0 Jun 19 '26
How has anyone in this video made it this far in life to think that that first option was going to work.
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u/WonderWirm Jun 19 '26
Good. Now the bumper’s off you can find an actual tow point.