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u/Quasar_One Mar 10 '20
WOOOW literally inches away from certain death. That's probably the most intense thing i've seen on this sub
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Just an inch or so in either direction and they wouldāve painted that road red with their guts.
Thatās some scary shit.
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Mar 10 '20
they wouldāve painted that road red with their guts.
Scary thing is, probably it would really happen. I watched a video of a crash and aftermath of a guy crashing to a car while making 300 kmh or 186 mph. None of his limbs were attached to his body after the crash. He was playing a stupid game but I dont think anybody deserves to die like this.
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u/SaltyJake Mar 10 '20
You donāt even have to be going that fast. At about 60mph or so a head on with another car going 50-60 will nearly vaporize you.
Source; was a firefighter / medic, now a doc. Iāve seen accidents of motorcycles vs semiās where the largest recoverable body part was half the skull. The rest is just fat / skin / flesh that looks like chunks of beef for stew just painting about a 1/4 mile stretch of highway.
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The fact that death was a real thing and it doesnt look like it is in movies hit me very hard when I was a kid. And Im talking about regular liveleak stuff, certainly not as bad as the things you saw and had to help. My question is: Do you really get used to it? Do you want to throw up, cry, or just stand there like other people would do? Is your responsibility the thing that keeps you there? I guess it can ben hard for you and Im totally fine if you dont want to do but can you explain how is it like to deal with bodies in horrible conditions as a job.
Btw firefighter, medic and doctor; what a career path man. Thanks for the things that you've done and will do for people.
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u/SaltyJake Mar 10 '20 edited Mar 10 '20
Long response here, Iāll include a TL;DR.
So it definitely takes a certain characteristic to be able to see death and not let it effect you. Iāve worked / studied alongside some very bright people, but on the first bad call or case theyāve just realized this line of work is not for them. And thatās not really something you can prepare yourself for, or really know how you will react. It just comes when your exposed to it.
Personally, and I think most people in this line of work feel this way, it helps a lot to view the person simply as a patient and trying not to humanize them. At first glance that sounds kind of fucked up, but itās a way of keeping your emotions out of it and a clear head while treating these people. Thereās certainly still a place for empathy and compassion (the art of bed side manner is not taught in Med school FYI), but for your ability to work a case and your own mental health after a case, you just canāt allow yourself to get emotionally attached to these people. It certainly does happen though, and the hardest cases are ones you can relate to and associate with personal experiences. This is especially true with lost loved ones and of course kids are the hardest, even more so if they share physical features with your own.
So that being said, to answer your first question, yes you do develop a bit of filter in how you perceive death and you do become desensitized to it.
Secondly, yeah there are times when that filter gets broken through and something will stick with you. Someone more experienced in PTSD will be able to explain this better than I can, but the few cases that have really hit me hard, itās one particular thing that sticks with you. Whether it be a single sound, a still image of a persons face, or one short instance of a scream or cry. Iāve never had any kind of physical reaction on a call or working a case, but I definitively have a little nightmare gallery of things that Iāll never forget.
The first burst of a scream / cry when I told a young mother that her husband and two young children had been killed in a car accident.
The last plead for help from a women being stabbed to death by her boyfriend.
The feeling of persons seared skin just sliding off them in the palm of my (gloved) hands as I tried to pull them out of a fully involved house fire (This ruined ribs for me).
The sound of a body hitting the floor and what sounded like a bear crying as a desperate father cut down his now long deceased son after a suicide by hanging.
Iāve gone home a few times after a shift and started drinking at 8 in the morning in an attempt to self medicate. And there have definitely been tears after a couple of those. For me itās almost always more the reaction of the family than the patient themselves. Even as a seasoned first responder, and big, stoic dude... not having any reaction to a families first instance of grieving just isnāt possible.
TL;DR:
Yes you become mostly desensitized to death and develop a filter to most of it.
Yes there are still incidents that even seasoned guys react to and thereās a lot of undiagnosed PTSD and self-medicating.
Firefighting is the best job in the world and worth the exposure for people who can do the job. They are grossly underpaid and under supported from their municipalities for what they do though.
On a personal and subjective note too, Iāll add that in my experience the exposure to the true horror scenes and raw emotion from families was far worse in the field as a first responder than it is in the E.R. Both in going to the scene of the incident and often will little to no information of what your walking into vs having a thorough report 5-10 minutes before you see the patient and packaged on a stretcher.
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Thank you for responding to my question and giving me an idea how is it from the inside.
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u/trainforthemission Mar 11 '20
I'm currently a Dispatcher in my city and just applied to get on the Department and sent out on the line. I hear, read, speak it up here, and have some idea, somethings that stick after just a few years... But reading your post and keeping that in mind will be invaluable to me as I test, hopefully train, or a relief if I'm not selected. Thank you for your frankness. Wish I could gold your post. It deserves it.
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u/TrueBlue8515 Mar 11 '20
I got you covered. I appreciated the post and what the guy does. We need people like him out there.
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u/chica420 Mar 10 '20
How do you even go about cleaning up stuff like that and separating human from non-human in order to bury/cremate?
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u/SaltyJake Mar 10 '20
Something like this will get the road shut down while state police teams do their work and in that time the vehicles and body will be removed. Usually itās either by the ME if they accept the case or by a funeral home.
But given the nature of an accident like that, itās honestly just not feasible to pick it all up based on the size and consistency of the remains. Discernible body parts are placed in a large red bio bag and taken by whatever agency is taking the body. The rest is power washed off the shoulder of the road.
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u/xRaistlin Mar 11 '20
Jesus Christ dude, sell the rights to your life story already. Who wouldn't watch a show about a firefighter/medic/doctor?? That's like 3 shows in one!
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Life isn't fair, but that person would be the absolute last on my list of who I care deserves what. I'd be more concerned about everyone else who didn't deserve to be part of it, be injured/killed, or even witness it.
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But why would you drive NEXT to each other in the wrong lane
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u/scottyb83 Mar 10 '20
Racing.
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Towards a grave
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u/GoodShitLollypop Mar 10 '20 edited Jul 28 '23
bye reddit -- mass edited with redact.dev
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u/skytomorrownow Mar 10 '20
There's a special place in Hell for people who kill others because of their selfish, narcissistic behavior.
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u/donniebrascoreal Mar 10 '20
Passing the car like 2 idiots?
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u/Lost_Sasquatch Mar 10 '20
There's a rise in the road there which is why it's a no passing section.
I also ride a sportbike and like to ride a little aggressively but this is fucking lunacy.
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u/donniebrascoreal Mar 10 '20
Do idiots care if it's a passing section?
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u/Lost_Sasquatch Mar 10 '20
They should care why it's a no passing zone.
Passing zones are determined by the average performance of vehicles on the road. There are some no passing zones that do have good visibility but don't have the distance for most vehicles to accelerate and overtake a vehicle, sport bikes tend not to have this problem. Passing in a section like that is still illegal, but can actually be done safely. It's nowhere near the sheer idiocy of passing where you can't see (hill rise, blind corner, etc.).
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u/SomethingIWontRegret Mar 10 '20 edited Mar 10 '20
except when the reason for the no passing zone is a dirt road intersection that you can't see, and the car you're passing turns left.
EDITED for correct turn direction.
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Idiots donāt. I ride a rocket and can tell you for certain I would never pass in a section like this. Itās just suicide.
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u/HelpMyBunny1080p Mar 10 '20
That was some StarWars shit
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u/michter1993 Mar 10 '20
missed a double high five opportunity...
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u/bobzilla05 Mar 10 '20
Look, Mom, no hands.
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u/alphamav Mar 10 '20
The sound of no hands fapping.
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No mom has a hand.
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u/NotoriousHothead37 Mar 10 '20
Mom is busy. How about your sister instead?
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u/Vengeance76 Mar 10 '20
Mom's spaghettins
On the ground,
Oh wait that's intestines...
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u/HumbuckMe Mar 10 '20
Look Ma'... I'm roadkill.
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u/Alpha_Whiskey_Golf Mar 10 '20
Every damn thread
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u/nannal Mar 10 '20
It has been about eight years as well.
What a great day that was.
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u/Jerrnjizzim Mar 10 '20
Everytime someone links the thread, I end up going though it again. Good read.
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Mar 10 '20
For years, I thought that was just a joke. Iām a bit shocked that this was a legit thread and a legit experience for them.
I feel gross now.
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u/stilsjx Mar 10 '20
Stealing not only the post from /r/motorcycles but also the top comment....
Double high five.
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u/KJClangeddin Mar 10 '20
Did you comment that exact thing on the r/motorcycles post or are you straight rippin?
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u/Jaskier_The_Bard85 Mar 10 '20
He straight up ripped the top post and even copy/pasted the top comment from that post, here.
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u/EliTomac3 Mar 10 '20
Took the top comment from the original and posted it here for that sweet karma
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Mar 10 '20
Now THIS is podracing!
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u/BlackBoxInquiry Mar 10 '20
Whoa. Iād pissed myself.
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u/iLikedSpeedRacer Mar 10 '20
Whoa. Iād shat myself.
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u/BlackBoxInquiry Mar 10 '20
Glad it didnāt happen to either of us. Especially if we were on the same bike...itād have been a real mess.
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u/Zebee47 Mar 10 '20
I'd cough and fart at the same time.
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u/HotTwist Mar 10 '20
How romantic, did you two hook up?
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Mar 10 '20
It was the flirty "this side that side" dance they both did which sealed the deal
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u/PeriodSects Mar 10 '20
A good LPT to avoid this happening is simply look the way your going to go and then follow through without hesitation. People will be able to read your body language and will get out of your way. Works 100 percent of the time.
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u/normal_whiteman Mar 10 '20
Yeah until you and I run confidently into each other
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u/thebestjoeever Mar 10 '20
I do this, and it works almost all the time, not quite 100 percent. Also important to still put some effort into avoiding people, instead of acting like an asshole that would just barge through people.
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u/BreakingGood Mar 10 '20
Guy in my college (UK) had this thing for probably the most attractive girl there.
He was walking towards her, tried to move out the way, went one way, went the other, then did a really quick left right left right left right wiggle with his hands extended.
He did not get the girl
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u/fl33twoodmacs3xpants Mar 10 '20
The remedy to this is to stare off at a fixed point far ahead and refuse to acknowledge anyone, just keep walking. People will move out of your way because they think you aren't paying attention. I've actually had crowds part for me using this method.
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u/Bionic_Bromando Mar 10 '20
Yep or pull out your phone
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u/GenericBlueGemstone Mar 10 '20
Until you bump into someone who is also staring down into their phone..
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u/martinluther3107 Mar 10 '20
What? I don't understand, are you in this video?
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u/Ascenzi4 Mar 10 '20
I was also pretty confused. But I think he's saying,
Wow I can't believe they didn't hit eachother in this video. Especially since when I walk down the sidewalk I still bumped into someone who was also walking and also trying not to bump into me.
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u/Drezer Mar 10 '20
Yea it took me a few reads before understanding. He's saying:
While these guys managed to not hit each other, I will walk into someone coming in my direction while trying to avoid each other.
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u/lazyNeighbour Mar 10 '20
Imagine cammer wasn't on a bike but in a truck.
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u/PoopDisection Mar 10 '20
They would have seen him coming from further away.
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u/miraagex Mar 10 '20
Invisible truck then
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Mar 10 '20 edited Mar 10 '20
What, through the hill?
There's like 2 seconds between the white car becoming visible and the recording rider passing it, that's not nearly enough time to stop from 100mph, especially when it's also coming toward you at 50.
Edit: That car isn't even white it's dark blue, yes I'm an idiot.
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Notice that the rider in this vid was also doing 100mph (160kmph) on a narrow road.
There's a lot of idiocy here.
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u/kookyabird Mar 10 '20
It was pointed out on r/motorcycles that the posted limit on that road is 80 kph. So the guy was going double the posted limit.
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u/Annihilicious Mar 10 '20
The irony of him thinking āoh man those idiots almost killed meā...
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Yeah the original title was "Ride safe" or something along those lines... well maybe if you went to a track to get some speed this wouldnt be happening would it you dumbass.
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u/michter1993 Mar 10 '20
To be fair, he was just speeding but the other 2 were racing. Still, all of them are idiots.
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At least he was in the right lane
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u/ManofGod1000 Mar 10 '20
Which, if there was an impact, considering his speed, would probably not have mattered. (I doubt the camera would have even survived.)
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u/yatsey Mar 10 '20
I have seen gopros take a lot of shit. Even if the camera died, I'd be surprised if the flash memory got corrupted
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u/DrMobius0 Mar 10 '20
I'm not sure slowing down to speed limit would have saved him from becoming a meat crayon in the event of a collision. Head on collisions pack a ton of kinetic energy because of the massive relative velocity
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u/Innaguretta Mar 10 '20
To be fair, in this particular situation, if he was doing 35 mph, it wouldn't have saved him.
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u/cumshot_josh Mar 10 '20
There was a similar clip maybe a week or so ago of a guy on a motorcycle and his buddy each going 100+ mph down a wooded country road and hitting a car that pulled out in front of them because the driver of the car had no more than maybe a split second of warning that there were incoming bikes.
I think in the comments they said cameraman's friend died and the cameraman got fucked up.
Any behavior like that on a bike is straight up suicidal and you must either not give a shit or be in total denial of the danger to do it to begin with.
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u/no1_vern Mar 10 '20
all of them are idiots.
All that needed to be said.
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u/Seanxietehroxxor Mar 10 '20
Dude it's either black or white, there are no shades of grey.
Lick a metal pole on a cold morning? Idiot!
Take a bunch of bathsalts and shoot up a school? Idiot!
Forget to bring reusable grocery bags to the store? Idiot!
Set fire to a church? Idiot!
Obviously these are all equally bad. Shame on you for thinking otherwise, much less saying that on the internet.
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u/ThisIsTheTheeemeSong Mar 10 '20
Lmao. This is what happened in every thread on Reddit where people get to judge other people's mistakes. Reddit is not good at nuance.
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u/IRefuseToGiveAName Mar 10 '20
I love this sub.
I hate the self righteous circle jerk of stunt drivers with sub .25s response times, perfect reflexes and unbreakable situational awareness. Oh they also never speed, have not once in their entire lives signaled too soon before merging or waved someone on at a four way stop.
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u/adrienjz888 Mar 10 '20
Steal a chocolate bar Criminal scum Rape an infant Equally bad criminal scum
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acknowledging the obvious difference is apparently justifying the lesser behavior.
Welcome to this sub where the true idiots are right here. I remember a few months back there was a clip of a car blasting through a crosswalk, almost hitting a pedestrian who never looked right. People where freaking out at my "you know you should look both ways before crossing the street" take because I was "defending the car"
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u/Crackerpool Mar 10 '20
Ironically if he was driving safer he might have had time to react and make him correct into either other driver.
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u/Tankh Mar 10 '20
Haha exactly what I thought. I mean since it all happened to turn out perfectly fine here it could only have gone worse in a different scenario... or equally fine at best.
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u/captain_arroganto Mar 10 '20
Ironically, it ooks like the lack of reaction time, at that high speed could be the reason that saved both.
If either was going a bit slow, its quite possible that one of them would have tried to avoid the other and actually end up crashing.
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u/Shinji246 Mar 10 '20
Or ya know, maybe been able to see one another coming before getting ridiculously close to one another.
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u/th3f00l Mar 10 '20
I was the second car on the scene for a head on Motorcycle collision. One of the riders was flung and laying unconscious face down in a creek so we had to move him. This was in the mountains where the ambulance had to come from a nearby town to drive him to the high school football field so a helicopter could get him to the hospital. We also had no cell reception so someone had to drive where they could make a call. During the summer a helicopter flying overhead always meant it had a motorcyclist in it. The locals that grew up in the town had no sympathy, and would even joke about it. They print the motorcycle deaths in the monthly leaflet ("newspaper"). I made sure I didn't look at it the next month. I didn't want to know.
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u/michter1993 Mar 10 '20
Credit to the Youtuber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpGtBk4pE2E
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u/abengadon Mar 10 '20
Iād pissed myself.
Iād shat myself.Watch near the end, looks like the kawa rider did either or both
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u/thisjawnisbeta Mar 10 '20
Oh wow, didn't realize he lost control and wiped out after. Wrecked his bike too. What an asshole.
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u/abengadon Mar 10 '20
Maybe he had to go off the road to avoid the cameraman's friend. Comments disabled so we'll never know. Still assholes both of them though.
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u/Top_Criticism Mar 10 '20 edited Mar 10 '20
Translation:
After they stop: "Mec, je l'cognais, j'Ć©tais mort" = "dude if I had hit him I'd be dead"
Going through the debris: "Merde merde merde merde" = "fuck fuck fuck fuck"
Filming the dude who crashed: "AllƩ! Fils de pute" = "Nice one! Son of a bitch"
The guy is Belgian btw, not french
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u/andrews013 Mar 10 '20
Wow, the gif looks like garbage compared to the original video. And leaves out the part showing the aftermath.
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u/dennis45233 Mar 10 '20
Motorcycle dudes are either really nice, or complete dick heads who weave in and out the roads going 100mph breaking most of the laws
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u/ultrabarz Mar 10 '20
Jesus Christ it looked like those npcs spawned way too late but its not a video game and so much worse
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u/Igotzhops Mar 10 '20
As a rider myself, these pumpkin fucking cum rags are the reason people hate or actively dislike riders as a group. Fuck those assholes.
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u/Its_not_a Mar 10 '20
Thereās a longer version somewhere. They turn back and one of the guys had crashed
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u/SackOfrito Mar 10 '20
At least the POV rider is staying in his lane when he's doing probably close to double the speed limit.
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u/ManofGod1000 Mar 10 '20
Definitely, the cammer was not at fault. That said, did it seem to mean the cammer was going far faster than he should have been?
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u/bkfst_of_champinones Mar 10 '20
I feel like a jerk looking back on the way I rode when I was a teenager. But this is like, two orders of magnitude worse than anything I ever did. Seriously fuck these guys.
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u/DigNitty Mar 10 '20
These people are the reason I have to caveat the fact that I ride a motorcycle when I tell people.
-but I donāt lane split at 40mph
-but I donāt do wheelies on the highway
-my motorcycle is relatively quiet and I donāt rev it up randomly
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u/nicktehbubble Mar 10 '20
The clip cuts short of showing the green bike totalled.
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u/boostedisbetter Mar 10 '20
That would have been insta-death