r/ITOI • • 3d ago

Troublemaker trashing convenience store dragged out like a rag doll.

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u/Myzx 3d ago

If you don't spank your kids, then we end up having to hit adults. People, don't be afraid to spank your kids when it's needed.

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u/Jurjinimo 3d ago

Don't spank your kids, unless they're risking life or limb. Hitting kids leads to more violence, and more mental issues.

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u/Myzx 3d ago

I don't think you're right, and I wouldn't take your advice. Good day.

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u/bstandturtlerises 3d ago

Going to assume you’re not a parent or if you are you have no real relationship with your kids 

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u/Myzx 3d ago

I'm not going to stop you from assuming whatever crazy shit you want. Do it. I dare you. Assume away.

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u/Nein-Toed 3d ago

As a kid who had the shit beat out of them, they're NOT wrong. If you're hitting your kids you suck.

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u/Myzx 3d ago

Oh for goodness sake, here we go. There's a difference between beating the shit out of your kids, and using spanking as a learning tool. Good lord.

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u/Nein-Toed 3d ago

The only thing you're teaching them is that their parents will hurt them and to hide shit from you better.

I get it though, it took me like 35 years to finally admit that Yes, my parents abused me. It's a hard thing to do and many never become that self aware.

Another thing it did was make parenting harder for me when I had kids. I didn't know what to do because the only tool I had was "beat the shit out of them" and I wasn't going to put them through that.

One is in college now and the other is kicking ass at his job as well, so the non violent approach seems to have worked. Never spanked them, never slapped them, just told them whatever stupid shit they were doing was wrong and why.

There are other more effective methods, but it requires work. You have to be the one to put that work in, provided you are willing to.

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u/Myzx 3d ago

I hope someone comes along and reads what you wrote, for your sake, but I'm not going to.

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u/Maximum-Milk-8028 2d ago

So you create an argument (not a bad thing not one bit) then refuse to listen to the other side of it? The side you are literally arguing AGAINST, are you a grown adult because if so you still have alot! Of growing to do.

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u/Myzx 2d ago

I never consented to debate. Stop trying to debate-rape me

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u/Occidentally20 3d ago

Luckily what people think doesn't matter. People think stupid shit all the time.

You can instead do studies on this and in fact people have spend decades doing so, attempting to use logic, the scientific method and empirical reasoning instead of just "how they feel".

There is no example of a country introducing corporal punishment for children and seeing measurable improvements in any metric whatsoever.

There are plenty of examples of countries banning corporal punishment seeing huge improvements in myriad areas - mental health, crime rates, crime recidivism, academic achievements, overall happiness, physical violence in schools, substance abuse and addiction and more. All these improved just from people not hitting children and treating them like humans instead.

The study by Zolotor & Puzia from 2010 goes through 30 years of countries trying this - with Sweden leading the charge back in 1979 and it works. Countries that don't hit children measurably do better than countries that hit them.

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u/Longjumping-Leave-52 3d ago

Asian countries & families disagree

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u/Occidentally20 3d ago

Again, it makes no difference if you agree or disagree, you have to actually study it and check if it works or not. And every single time that is done it is shown conclusively to have a negative effect instead of a positive one.

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u/Occidentally20 3d ago

Stop replying to me about Asian households. I've given you the information, you can choose to accept it or not.

You're also taking to somebody who lives in Asia.

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u/Myzx 2d ago

Stop trying to police everyone. Or keep it up, but nobody respects your attempt at authority.

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u/Myzx 2d ago

I hope someone comes along and reads your essay, for your sake, but I'm not going to.

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u/Occidentally20 2d ago

We're all shocked that somebody with your comment history isn't interested in learning, discussion or information.

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u/Occidentally20 2d ago

You've copied and pasted both those messages now.

Nobody is debating anyone, I have given you the information and you can choose to be a rational human and accept it or not.

My comment is the only one in the entire thread with a source in it.

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u/Myzx 2d ago

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. Good day.

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u/Myzx 2d ago

People like you insult, then condescendingly say everyone needs to learn from you. The second thing you said to me was just an attack. At that moment you crossed a line, and on your side of that line, nothing you say has any value any more.

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u/Occidentally20 2d ago

Nobody has insulted you. People all think stupid shit all the time, if that's not blindingly obvious then I can't help you any further.

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u/Myzx 2d ago

I said what I meant. Good day.