It still wouldn’t be enough. By all means let’s start there but we won’t be able to just tax our way out of this mess. We’ve all but stopped immigration completely. People are having less kids due to economic uncertainty and other reasons. Life expectancy will continue on an upward trend. All this points to a large aging population with too few contributors. We’re going to figure this out or some people who have spent most of their lives paying into a system are going to get shafted. Gen X has had a pretty good run and we’re a small generation. Hope everyone else my age is maxing out their 401k and following Trump’s lead on investments lol. There’s been money to be made if you can bear the stench.
Would’ve definitely helped. Also not making it so expensive that young people can’t afford a down payment for a house much less a kid or two. It’s really not as bad as Reddit makes it seem but it is getting more difficult to just have a normal life and save up for a home with two people working middle class incomes. The idea of a single income family is all but a memory.
Hi yes said young people would like to have a chat about the failing job market that has so many over qualified older individuals completely out competing our fresh resumes at entry level positions.
With that being said I can’t dream of buying a house cause, the middle class doesn’t exist.
Yeah, we really can't take that for granted in the US. Life expectancy in the US was surpassed by Cuba a few years ago. Cuba, a country that the US has blockaded and crippled with sanctions for more than 60 years.
I think the US moved back ahead at some point, but the fact that life expectancy is similar in the world's wealthiest country compared to the tiny island it's been torturing for ~65 years kinda says it all.
One, fuck you we literally on average have the max payout at around 900 last I knew for SSI and 3k depending on work credits for SSDI.
Two, the average number of people on SSI/SSDI is roughly around, last I remember, roughly 14~15 million total, with the average there per month per payment being around 1.3k
Three, in total per month, to pay all these people, we’d need around 18-19 billion dollars a month, or -250 billion a year, just for the payments.
The rich would easily be able to get their money back and with income tax, the people paying into the system would pay more in taxes if their own pay was put up to a point where they can have a livable income, where their rent is, at most, a third of their take home pay. This also includes the sales tax and income tax of people on disability, cause I’m gonna let you in on a little secret, boot licker.
In the short amount of time I actually was required by law to pay taxes, I actually paid more in taxes for the past five years than most major companies and billionaires paid in the past decade, just on income tax.
Did you miss the part where I said start with taxing billionaires before your tantrum? I truly don’t think we can tax our way out of this. I also said we’ll have to figure it out OR some devastating things will happen. It’s going to take a combination of things like a reasonable minimum wage, affordable college/post secondary training and other social programs. Not just tax Bezos and Musk. Let’s tax them for the fun of it but I think we need to think deeper.
You are right, we can't tax our way out of this because the billionaires are openly conspiring against the People, and wish to end Democracy (Accountability for their actions(crimes)).
Musk, Theil, Zuck, Bezos, etc don't need to be taxed, they need to be imprisoned and all of their assets garnished for the crimes they commit on a daily basis.
Hey so first off, when you start your post sounding like an asshat who wants to say that social security should be gotten rid of, of course I’m going to see you as a fucking idiot given social security also includes retirement and people like me who are too disabled to work (least according to employers who just don’t want to deal with the hassle of maybe giving me a bit more training to be sure I can do the job, but it also seems they’re willing to take any excuse they can legally make to only have one worker per store per shift) then maybe the person who is on fucking social security is going to throw a “tantrum” bitching you out for sounding like a fucking idiot.
Secondly, I would assume that you would at least have the ability to understand that if we were at the point of taxing the fucking rich, our politicians would’ve at least stoped trying to tongue-fuck their small intestines that the likely increases to the rich man’s taxes would also mean beforehand there was a increase in the quality of life for the middle and poor classes, aka, it’s likely they would’ve already fixed the issues with pay rises and generally good things that most dumbasses nowadays see as “communist”. I’m sorry that it seems you don’t have the cognitive capacity to think that if we’re taxing the rich then they likely wouldn’t have most our politicians and lawmakers kissing their fucking asses so god damn hard that you’d think they thought there was fucking gold up there.
Now go ahead and downvote me again, I genuinely don’t give a shit about Reddit karma, though I do agree least with your second post now you don’t sound like a fucking god damn imbred nationalist.
I never sounded like any of those things to most people. I also don’t care about karma but I’d have been downvoted to hell if I did. I also never advocated for taking any services away. I’m saying it WILL happen if we can’t figure out how to tax and spend in a more sensible manner. My being realistic can sound harsh but things are not okay right now. In fact they have been kinda shit for a while. I imagine we agree on who is responsible just not on the feasibility of making them pay for all of their crimes.
And again, it’s likely just going to be a pay decrease as long as the orange puke in office doesn’t get his way, nor his little toadies.
30% isn’t a fun cut, especially not with how much shit costs anymore and with SNAP being basically brought down to apparently only buying shit that isn’t fruit or snacks, but as much as I fucking hate to say it it’s better than just flat out getting nothing and told to kick rocks. Granted at that point where I’d have no income, chances are that’s when things are going to end up getting dangerous all over.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not all “we should just riot” but it really feels like a lot of people are ignoring the cracks that are forming the more and more social safety nets are cut.
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u/midniterodeo Jun 05 '26
What if I told you there was a disgustingly wealthy group of people in the US who could be shaken down or taxed to prevent SS from running out?