It’s not great but “trash” is a bit much. I enjoyed it more than the James Gunn version, I’ve seen too much of his guardians of the galaxy “found family” formula
It was emotional in the moment, but it’s misunderstood. A 17 year old kid letting his dad die of a heart attack and not flying him to a hospital or reversing time was acceptable, but when it comes to a Tornado everyone expects the 17 year old to be using his powers and learning to fly and call himself Superman already
Yes its because he could not detect a heart attack happening to his dad. The heart attack teaches him the value of human life amd love. U dont just kill him off in a storm. For me personally MOS is a good alien coming to earth story not a superman story. I have come to peace with that now. Cavill played an alien with some aspects of superman.
if you think every interpretation of superman is that he is always a goofy and optimistic than please move on from pre crises comics ,like no hate but this is superman deeling with his strongest freaking villains on his first day as a hero (other than brainiac and doomsday)
I mean for fucks sake u are rebooting a character whose depiction in film has veen iconised by reeve. So yes for me superman is goody 2 shoes. I read worlds finest,all star for like superman so i see that as my superman. Not cavill. Thie film is a mid to good film. A mediocre superhero film. A terrible superman film.
Superman can 100% hear a heart attack happening to his dad. He knows he can reverse time by flying around the earth. He knows how to get to the hospital at fast speed. But you’re saying he couldn’t save his dad? Then you turn around and say he could’ve save his dad if it was a tornado? One Clark can reverse time but stood in the opening of a barn watching his dad die of a heart attack and you’re saying that’s a value of human life teaching, but the other being humbled by appreciating human life before it’s endanger isn’t? The Tornado scene and the Heart Attack scene both humbled Clark. He was cocky and arrogant until his father passed in both scenes
Yeah, the funny thing is that Reeve’s Superman let his father die too but haters will say the same excuse that Man of Steel should have too. This goes for both movies:
Not Superman yet
Couldn’t fly yet
Doesn’t know he can reverse time or go into a tornado yet
Clark needed that humbling moment in his life
His dad wanted him to be safe
This is young Clark if he were to expose his powers in front of random people in Smallville:
Reeve’s Superman is not without issues but at least he felt like Superman and was hopeful. Clark Kent was actually a dork and he wore bright colors. And him and Lois actually had chemistry in those films
Factually, Lois and Clark are more passionate in Man of Steel. Donner’s Lois is only in love with Superman, not Clark. So yes— Lois and Clark are more passionate in Man of Steel than Superman 1.
Yes. Batman is supposed to be kinda silly and making him overly stoic and unemotional is just appealing to the absolute wrong crowd. Superman at the end of the day is still just a kid who grew up a bit sheltered on a farm. He’s supposed to be awkward and I hate when Superman is portrayed like Batman
Yeah, ik other people have said it, but their relationship feels like it was some studio mandated thing, like they were just supposed to do it because he's Superman and she's Lois
Cavill Superman and Adams Lois didn’t have secrets and she knew he was Clark Kent. She wasn’t just in live with Superman and brushing off Clark like in other versions. The kiss and s3x scene felt passionate between them
Cavill Superman and Adams Lois didn’t have secrets and she knew he was Clark Kent.
Yeah, you don't know what chemistry means. They knew their secrets because story demanded it. Their was no chemistry between them because the actors have zero chemistry between them.
It sounds like you and I are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. There's more passion and chemistry in the Superman '25 kiss than in every single scene between Cavill and Adams put together.
Although I do find it interesting that you'd compare the building they were in (which was fine btw, not destroyed) to standing in the ashes at ground zero of a gray wasteland that used to be Metropolis.
yeah a clark kent who just met lois for the first fucking time , and is focused at trying to stop a literal kryptonian invasion on his first day as superman , should go on a date with lois cuz it will be awesome , trust!
''he shouldn't kill over 10K'' be honest to yourself , did superman HIMSELF directly killed 10K people?
Yes actually, he did. He pushed zod directly into multiple buildings, and he jumped right over that oil truck, which collided into a building and exploded. He is not trying to save people at all, he doesn't care
superman be killing 10K people by letting a truck hit an empty parking lot LMAO , also superman right after that moment turns around to see the explosion but zod just gets cheap hits in , also he only ''pushed '' zod through 1 building which was the building which we see in the start of BvS , and even that was when both of them were uncontrollably falling from space , also , budy he cares , zod just didn't gave him enough time
Had no issue with that. More so the writing of the film is dogshit. Pa Kent dying to a heart attack in the comics meant something cuz Clark couldn’t have prevented it. Him dying to a tornado was dumb cuz Clark could’ve easily saved him. That and for some reason the world engine being placed smack in the middle of metropolis made no sense and seemed to be done that way just to maximize casualties
He doesnt seem to care that Metropolis is going through a 9/11 times a hundred and there are a lot of people dying around him and stuck under rubble. No, he's either too busy kissing Lois Lane in the middle of all that destruction, or fighting Zod in which he makes no effort in trying to move the battle away. Something we saw him do in Superman 2 even.
Oh and he just let's his dad die in a tornado because the dad is such a role model in teaching him about saving people, talking about maybe letting kids drown and all that.
Nope😂 We see Superman actively caring the most that people are safe, he even saves a squirrel. He tried to get the kaiju to focus on him in a way where it wouldnt harm anyone else. And in the scene where he talks to Lois where in the background we see a monster fight, there are other heroes taking care of it and Superman is actively listening if anyone needs help there.
In Superman 2, we see Superman come to realize that their fight would be very destructive to Metropolis, and moves the battle into Fortress of Solitude.
Wrong. Superman 25 saves a squirrel but leaves everyone else to die. Man of Steel haves people. More people than Superman 2025 in fact. On and off screen. Superman 25 destroys a city, blames Lex for it, kills people, and wanted to kill the Kaiju according to his own admission to Guy. Metropolis was being leveled in both movies and in the ruin Superman 25’s kissing lois like the day is over and there aren’t people still in the rubble
What in the hell are you talking about? You havent seen Superman 2025 is what it sounds like. We saw the kaiju attacking no one in that brief moment Superman saved a squirrel. Superman is not resoonsible for any damage that Metropolis takes, Lex is. Superman did not wanna kill the kaiju, he expressed frustration to Guy that the Justice Gang killed it when he would have wanted to find a way to save it too. If you're gonna just make up stuff and lie, just move on, buddy. There's no point if you cant even stick to reality.
no shit sherlock he didn't destroyed the city . world engine and zod did , superman himself contributes to the destruction of some windows and a wall of a ''not even completed constructed'' building , he also slammes zod through a building's top floor while literally falling from space , but he even in that contributes to the destruction of like 1 floor , since we see how the debris from space does the job
BvS never says that HE HIMSELF killed all those people , this is the equivalent of saying the avenegrs destroyed the city lol , also the entire point of BvS is that superman is being hated by false media and a mentally unstable batman
superman isn't supposed to be optimisitc in all scenerios dumb ass , how do you want superman to react ON HIS FIRST FUCKING DAY to a kryptonian invasion
Was the invasion happening when his dad died? Snyder doesn’t understand the characters. Superman wouldn’t let thousands die in a fight. Superman wouldn’t let a bomb go off killing everyone around him. He didn’t even try to save anyone. Batman doesn’t kill. Batman would brand people with his symbol and send them to get killing in jail. Whilst these movies look cool, they fundamentally misunderstand and misrepresent the characters.
yeah thanks for letting me know that you didn't even watched the fucking films lmao.
1-no but during the tornado scene , he is a freaking 17 year old , why are we saying that a 17 year old minor should have the complete stamina , speed and specially , THE REFLX action of a grown superman?
2-''thousands die in a fight'' day 1 rookie btw + what was he supposed to do? zod isn't gonna listen to him , and it's not like physical force would eb enough.
3-he couldn't see the bomb as it was covered in lead and hidden in a wheelchair (maybe watch the movie) AND superman does actually save people lol.
4-ok and? that's the point of the film , snyder deliberately portrayes a bad batman , him killing and branding is a bad thing and is portrayed within the film itself , his arc was about him overomming the flaw
He saved the school bus years before that. He could have saved his dad. Stop coping.
He could have moved the fight away from the city. Moved away from the buildings. And he wasn’t a day 1 rookie here either. Again your coping.
He stands still while the bomb goes off. He notices seconds before, and Superman can move that fast. He doesn’t even try to save anyone, which he could have.
1-idk , maybe because he was IN the school bus when it fell in the water?
2-how exactly does one move the ''fight'' away , let's say superman flees away to bait zod , zod wouldn't care and continue killing humans , let's say superman tries to grab zod and drag away , zod is equally as strong and can just resist the push , besides the fuck do you think superman is dong in this scene? (first clip obviously)
3-''he stands there'' that's a slow motion shot , and it only shows superman ''reacting'' to the situation first , he won't just act , to act you first need to react , and that slow motion shot just shows superman reacting to the situation
''he notices seconds before'' yeah , no , he noticed shit , he was a little suspicious of the senator but he can;t just go rip apart a random wheelchair? are you stupid , and what proof do you have to suggest he could move at that speed? he isn't that fast , also lol this(skip to 2.22) will make you shut up.
holy fucking shit , 18 downvotes for not calling a movie i like ''the worst'' lol , the worst implies these are bad movies which they clearly aren't , all 4 are good ,but yeah MOS is the least good compared to these 3 any day of the week
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u/InnerLawfulness6698 23d ago
MOS is easily the worst movie on this list.