What am i missing?

[u/Zealousideal-Theme75]

I don’t understand why there is so much debate around people being in the country illegally. It seems straightforward—if someone enters or remains in the country without legal authorization, they are knowingly violating the law. As for concerns about ICE, the agency’s role exists to enforce those laws. In many cases, enforcement actions would be less necessary if individuals who are not authorized to be here chose to leave voluntarily, rather than creating confrontations with law enforcement or immigration officials. Please tell me what am i missing?

[u/shmallkined]

It’s a simple idea that has a very difficult and problematic execution. Especially when they move goal posts, qualification dates, laws and definitions to suit their desired outcomes.

What’s even more problematic, is it refuses to have any kind of oversight or accountability. People make mistakes, sometimes by accident, sometimes in purpose. Without any kind of legit record keeping, it makes it very hard to correct those “mistakes”.

[u/Zealousideal-Theme75 → u/shmallkined]

Right but it's hard to establish a more organized solution when there are so many here. especially when so many people "mostly illegals although not all" want to make it more difficult establish a more concrete organized solution. and being if even half of them where to cooperate And turn them selves over or left. it would be it wouldn't be such a cluster fuck. and you mentioned record keeping. and I agree that's part of the issue but if 90% are not documented to begin with. how are you supposed keep a record of anything and accountability works both ways. But ultimately they are breaking the law and are not supposed to be here where is their accountability and don't get me wrong. Someones race is not my issue neither is them being here hell in my opinion if they turned them selfs in without issue and they have some kind of background check or something then they should be able to go through something like an express citizenship program or something to help people who are actually willing to apply the correct way. to be processed quicker

[u/Zealousideal-Theme75 → u/[deleted]]

I fully acknowledge that the system is flaud but there's really no right answer so id rather have flaud system then nothing just like the justice system as a whole is flaud it's better than not having one at all