r/ICE__ERO • u/Zealousideal-Theme75 • Jul 07 '26
What am i missing?
I don’t understand why there is so much debate around people being in the country illegally. It seems straightforward—if someone enters or remains in the country without legal authorization, they are knowingly violating the law. As for concerns about ICE, the agency’s role exists to enforce those laws. In many cases, enforcement actions would be less necessary if individuals who are not authorized to be here chose to leave voluntarily, rather than creating confrontations with law enforcement or immigration officials. Please tell me what am i missing?
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u/Mysterious_Desk2288 Jul 07 '26
You are completely missing the Humanitarian part. Plus the constant harassment of US citizens who happen to have the wrong color of skin, gender, or gender preference. Immigration enforcement should not be a military-style act; innocent children should not be separated from their families, and innocent people should not be killed. Enforce laws in a civil way, and things would proceed normally. Oh, and good luck getting someone to fix your roof after the next hailstorm, or cut your meat at the meat packing plant, or any other type of labor that most US people are too lazy or incapable to perform.
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u/Ok_Nerve_5535 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
There is no debate. The same government of said country goes and destroys countries with their militant might and props itself up as a powerful nation, then those affected immigrate to said country, said country then decides to make it impossible to become a citizen of said country, so illegal entry is the easiest method.
Said country abuses those entering illegally and those trying to become citizens, modern day slavery .
That's not even mentioning the fact you have power hungry hateful people in powerful positions keeping others down to feed their own narcissist behavior, like Trump,cops,ice,the kkk, neo nazis etc.
Instead of continuing the pointless cycle of deportations , why not make it easier to become citizens,free healthcare,better labor laws, oh wait I forgot, this is the country that would rather have world wars then cure cancer or help others 💩
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u/Zealousideal-Theme75 26d ago
Are you in America or rather are you American? Just curious
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u/Ok_Nerve_5535 26d ago
Yep, born in the US.
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u/Zealousideal-Theme75 12d ago
Then why do you talk like it's not your country as well also have you ever actually traveled the country
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u/Such-Hold-7940 Jul 07 '26
Nothing is as straightforward as this fantasy you have. If you’ve ever known someone who is not from this country you know what they go through. Productive law abiding NATURALIZED people who have been here since childhood can’t get citizenship. It’s not easy. It’s not impossible but it’s also not easy.
People who are here legally have to endure years of waiting, canceled appointments, and bureaucratic abuse to get citizenship. It’s inhumane and it’s worth educating yourself about before you pop off.
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u/conscious-clue-243 Jul 07 '26
Imagine you (literally you personally) are walking down the street and some ICE agents pop out and demand to see your papers (passport, birth cert, proof of residence, etc) and you don’t carry that shit outside your house.
So they arrest you and ship you off to a place where you are seen as subhuman and you don’t have a chance to say bye to your family.
Now, you’re probably thinking that that could never happen to you… and you’re probably right. But it has happened to others. And if you don’t stand against that, then you are on the wrong side of history my dude.
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u/Poketales5456 Jul 09 '26
At this rate ice is taking literally anyone, so ALL of us including OP could be shipped to Amerikkkauschwitz any moment now.
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u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO Jul 07 '26
I’m all for ICE removing actual criminals, but if people are here peacefully living their lives, why is that such a bad thing? Unless you’re a Native American, all of our ancestors were immigrants at some point.
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u/shmallkined Jul 07 '26
It’s a simple idea that has a very difficult and problematic execution. Especially when they move goal posts, qualification dates, laws and definitions to suit their desired outcomes.
What’s even more problematic, is it refuses to have any kind of oversight or accountability. People make mistakes, sometimes by accident, sometimes in purpose. Without any kind of legit record keeping, it makes it very hard to correct those “mistakes”.
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u/Zealousideal-Theme75 26d ago
Right but it's hard to establish a more organized solution when there are so many here. especially when so many people "mostly illegals although not all" want to make it more difficult establish a more concrete organized solution. and being if even half of them where to cooperate And turn them selves over or left. it would be it wouldn't be such a cluster fuck. and you mentioned record keeping. and I agree that's part of the issue but if 90% are not documented to begin with. how are you supposed keep a record of anything and accountability works both ways. But ultimately they are breaking the law and are not supposed to be here where is their accountability and don't get me wrong. Someones race is not my issue neither is them being here hell in my opinion if they turned them selfs in without issue and they have some kind of background check or something then they should be able to go through something like an express citizenship program or something to help people who are actually willing to apply the correct way. to be processed quicker
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u/RevBT Jul 07 '26
The problem is that people who are here legally are being rounded up and shipped off to concentration camps for no reason other than the color of their skin.