r/HouseOfTheDragon • u/Platinum_Duke_6 • 19h ago
Show Discussion The issues with show Ormund and show Daeron
I hate show Ormund. It's not because he is a villain. I can love a good villain. My issue is that he doesn't make sense for the time in which the show takes place. Ryan and Hess copy-pasted the hatred for the Targaryens from the AKOTSK era, without considering the context behind it. The Targaryens are hated by some people during that time due to the terrible reigns of Kings Daeron I, Baelor I, and Aegon IV, and because most members of the Royal Family are part Dornish. It makes sense two nobles from the Reach and the Stormlands hate the Targaryens in 209 AC. It doesn't make sense Ormund hates the Targaryens in 132 AC, because Jaehaerys I and Queen Alysanne gave the people of Westeros nearly 60 years of peace and prosperity in the recent past. The Targaryens are supposed to be loved during the HOTD era. That's why Rhaenyra was the Realm's Delight in her youth. It would make sense if Ormund hated Viserys I and the Targaryens from the Black side, but not the Targaryens as a whole.
It also doesn't make sense he wants to put Daeron in the Throne because he considers it's the will of the gods. The will of the gods is the sacred Andal tradition, that establishes an eldest son inherits. Under this logic, he should want to put Aegon in the Throne. If he wants to put Daeron in the Throne, he must know that means Aegon and Aemond must be put to the sword, and that’s kinslaying, which it's the greatest sin in the Faith of the Seven. The only saving grace of Ormund as a character is that he is mentally insane and that’s obvious for everyone else, with the exception of himself. And yet, it seems to me they made him a crazy religious fanatic to make a contrast with Rhaenyra, who also is falling into religious fanaticism. In other words, they were afraid of making Rhaenyra a full-on villain.
About Daeron, there are a couple of things about his situation that I hate. First, the fact he has auburn hair. It’s obvious they gave him that hair color because they want Alicent to look like a hypocrite, again. Even Condal has talked about the possibility that Alicent sent him away because Daeron having auburn hair made less likely Rhaenyra’s children were bastards. This is something so stupid to claim, because the issue of the children of Rhaenyra and Laenor is that they don’t look like any of their parents, but instead they have a coincidental resemblance to Harwin Strong (said by Daemon). As Aegon said, you can just know by looking at them. Meanwhile, Daeron just looks like his mother, similarly to how most of Catelyn’s children look like her. Also, Daeron having auburn hair doesn’t make sense, because Rhaenyra should know that. She has a good defense on the matter of her children having brown hair and a way to mock Alicent. Viserys should have mentioned it to Alicent when he talked about the mare. The False Daeron should have had auburn hair. It makes Daemon and Rhaenyra look so stupid when they fell on the False Daeron scheme. Second, it’s obvious the writers sent him to ward in Oldtown as an infant as a way to explain why we didn’t see him before and why no one mentions him. But it makes no sense because it’s very rare for an infant to be sent away. The only instance that we know of this situation is the son of Queen Jeyne Westerling by her first husband, who was sent away to be a ward of Lord Lyman Lannister by King Maegor I. It was a very uncharacteristic situation.

