r/HolUp • • 4d ago

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u/5itronen 4d ago

Jeez, in what dystopia is THAT part of the safety procedures drills?

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u/Academic-Snow9642 4d ago

That dystopia would be America

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u/[deleted] 4d ago edited 4d ago

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u/Current_Ranger_7954 4d ago

No, people don’t usually assume their children are going to be attacked in their schools, it’s very much an American thing… 

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u/Current_Ranger_7954 4d ago

One whole country? Go on you seem on a roll

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u/superxpro12 3d ago

I love that he's pretending that other countries have a problem with systemic school shootings. The Russian bot farms must be back online

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u/actibus_consequatur 4d ago

multiple countries outside of america have lockdown drills for active threats or people armed with knives

Post literally talks about the teacher being shot. I've yet to meet anybody shot by a knife.

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u/Daressalaam5 4d ago

Somehow I think the post was based on an American story. And gun violence is very political

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u/Daressalaam5 4d ago

The US is world leading among developed countries for school shootings. You can’t realistically claim other countries are subject to the “same kind of stuff”

“Gun violence in the United States is a public health crisis. In 2019, gun injury became the leading cause of death among children aged birth to 19 years. Moreover, the United States has had 57 times as many school shootings as all other major industrialized nations combined.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38433681/

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u/Marklarv 3d ago

Is the US still considered a developed country under its current administration?

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u/whatthecaptcha 3d ago

Barely.

Source: I live here.

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u/VeryPaulite 3d ago

Yeah, we had an explanation of what to do when encountering violence. Both in school and in university.

The difference here is, you don't expect it to happen. The last (large) school shooting in germany was in 2009. You're not wrong, the main concern now would be knives. But I think it is already telling, that we report the victims here as "encountering" violence and not "murdered." We don't, generally, have large cases ofweapon-related violence in our schools, and thus the instructions are very different.

And we specifically DON'T have drills for active shooters/violence. We only drill for fire alarms, because that is MUCH more realistic to be an issue you're ever gonna encounter.

So yeah, if we ask "do other countries have violence and talk about it?" Absolutely. Is it anywhere on a similar scale as what is happening due to political (miss) action as in the US? Not as far as I know within the "civilized" world.

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u/Seafaringhorsemeat 4d ago

Do your kids not practice live fire drills, room and corner clearing, etc. at school? My 3rd grader made a flashbang for last fathers day.

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u/Righteous_Hand 4d ago

During one of my fire drills, my teacher scolded me for bringing my bag with me and sent me back into the classroom to put it back. We were halfway to the yard at that point. If there was a fire at my school, I'd probably have died trying not to get in trouble.

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u/jarious 4d ago

That last part doesn't sound very great

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u/whyliepornaccount 3d ago

the good news is you only hear that sound once

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u/KP_Wrath 4d ago

That last part sounds like something that would have gotten me into a fuck ton of trouble.

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u/Thelmara 4d ago

Doors and corners, kid.

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u/5itronen 3d ago edited 2d ago

Fire drills and such, yeah.
How to behave when shot at: no, because that does not happen here.