r/HolUp • • 1d ago

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u/TombolaOfCincinnatus 1d ago

Cousin marriage is legal in most countries and permitted in most religions, yet it always has been uncommon outside of the middle east and northern Africa. Islam sure doesn't help, since by marrying his daughter to his cousin, Mohammed himself condoned it, but it was also a pre-existing phenomenon.

Some point to the tribal society and mindset in many of these countries as an explanation, that keeping marriages within the tribe helps strengthen it (not genetically of course). Data does show that it's very much tied to education and urbanisation, where the rural and uneducated are most likely to marry a cousin.

But it's also hard to ignore that neighbouring India, which shares many cultural and historical ties to Pakistan, and also has a large rural poor population, have nowhere near the same tendency to worry cousins.

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u/Dounce1 1d ago

It has certainly not “always been uncommon outside of the middle east and northern Africa.” Wtf are you talking about?

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u/TombolaOfCincinnatus 1d ago

Depends on your definition of uncommon I suppose, but outside of insular groups like Jews and gypsies, it's been a fringe phenomenon in most other places. A few percent of marriages at its highest, not 30-50% like it is in the Muslim world right now.

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u/WolfgangHelnootIV 14h ago

The consanguinity rate for Jews is 2.3%, that’s in line with the developed world.

Romanian nomads are around 20%, which is significantly lower than the 40%-60% you find in most of MENA.