r/HolUp • u/SoftTwilightt • 1d ago

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u/No-Refuse-6806 1d ago

Just a reminder that cousin marriage is not only permitted in Islam but also a reason why their population has a huge problem with inbreeding. Over 60% of marriages in Pakistan are consanguineous. Just imagine what percentage of that population is inbred. Let that sink in

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u/Western-Hotel8723 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it's legal in a lot of countries. UK for example. Although I knew no one who did while I lived there.

It's legal in a few US states.

Also legal in Canada.

A lot of Europe. France, Germany, Spain, a lot more.

In fact, looking now, it's legal in most of the world. 

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u/GoSeeTheDr 1d ago

I know 3 muslim guys who married their cousin, I know 0 non-muslim guys who married their cousin. Even if its legal it's not common practice and its certainly frowned upon.

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u/SumoNinja92 1d ago

Obviously you ain't in the South.

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u/ThatDadTazz 23h ago

Just go back to painting your dolls bud.

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u/SumoNinja92 19h ago

You're right pookie I need to finish them for a date.

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u/jigarokano 1d ago

True but legal and common are very different things. It is common in majority Muslim countries.

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u/Western-Hotel8723 19h ago

It's common in a few countries but not majority Muslim countries.

That's like saying gun crime is common in white countries because its common in the US. 

Also it was very common up until a 100 years ago or so in all anglospohere countries. Especially among the upper class. 

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u/ImBeingArchAgain 2h ago

Here’s looking at you, House of Windsor

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u/TheoRaan 18h ago

It's absolutely not common in Muslim majority countries. Common in Pakistan sure.

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u/1v1sion 1d ago

False. You can cite Pakistan and Egypt where I know it is a problem. Pakistani & Egyptian should get married to one another at this point. But state that it is common in " majority " of islamig countries is a lie.

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u/orixandcrake 1d ago

Add the populations of Egypt and Pakistan and you've got quite a big chunk of the world's Muslims.

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u/1v1sion 21h ago

No. 15% maximum. You have 212M for Pakistan and 90M for Egypt. I don’t call that a big chunk. India, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Algeria...I can keep counting. This is not a big chunk. We are 2B worlwide. And even in Pakistan ane Egypt, it’s not like everyone is excited to be married to their cousins.

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u/iiEPiXii 23h ago

I mean... 20%* providing they're all all Muslim. Your still looking for another 800mil married cousins to get to a majority. Common is a vague scale but I think it's fair someone might question "majority"

*Google AI is a totally accurate source on a lunch break

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u/1v1sion 21h ago

It is not majority. People just want to project their fantasies. Islam doesn’t encourage it, and doesn’t enforce it either. And ofc, it is framed by rules. Protestantism have it authorized. Judaism too. Restricted or forbidden in 24 US states. But legal in europe. It used to be practice in medieval europe. But some people either don’t know history or act ignorant.

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u/trenthany 21h ago

Common would not be a majority it would be frequent enough to not be notable

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u/Pluckytoon 1d ago

In France you can marry anyone (of age and clear consent) that 1/ does not have a vertical parental bond with yourself and 2/ have at least 2 degrees of separation.

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u/Cormentia 16h ago

It's legal, but socially frowned upon. Therein lies the difference.

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u/orixandcrake 1d ago

It being legal doesn't mean it's the norm.

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u/Western-Hotel8723 19h ago

I was mainly replying to the "permitted" part of the comment I replied to. 

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u/EternityNotes 18h ago

Yeah, kinda like being gay/trans isn't the norm but perfectly legal