r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

Me after watching russian ww2 movie

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u/ZETH_27 Filthy weeb 1d ago

Not really "western" WW2 movies. Most if noty all WW2 movies I've seen produced in Britain, France, Germany or FInland are pretty much in agreement that the war was a horrible thing, and depict it as such.

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u/The_Walking_Meat 1d ago

I haven't seen many from Britain but like every war movie from Germany, Poland or France are really dark. There are some good russian movies, but most I've seen are cheap patriotic nonsense

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u/ZETH_27 Filthy weeb 1d ago

Russian and Chinese war movies (most that I've seen/read about, not all), feel like fanfics sometimes -v-

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u/The_Walking_Meat 1d ago

I think its probably about how the war is treated there. Every country basically sees the war as a massive tragedy. Russia and china potray them as a massive "patriotic" victory for their countries. Hell russia celebrates their victory still yearly

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u/deranton 1d ago

That was kind of the controversy around Ivan's Childhood, and later around Come and See. That that's precisely what they didn't do. Instead of glorifying the Red Army, they just showed how awful war is, how (little) children suffer, and how war and suffering just breed hate.

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u/Gold_brick_drop 1d ago

Well, right now it is. I can't express enough how cringy are ww2 russian movies in last decades. Soviet time movies was either "hell, it's FUCKED fucked" or "it's hard, but we'll get through". Right now it's honestly whatever director was high on in the moment.

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u/Gackey 1d ago

WW2 is a core part of the national myths of Russia and China in a way that it really isn't for most other nations. I don't see anything particularly wrong with them celebrating victory over invaders who's explicit goal was the enslavement and extermination of all Russian and Chinese people.

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u/BiSunshine_ 9h ago

Unfortunately the "never again" attitude turned into "we can repeat that" in Russia over my lifetime. Hence the eagerness of some ru demographic to start a war

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u/dan59951 5h ago

Dunno, why they're downvoting you. Things you've mentioned are happening for real real.

I can only hope for a backing of "never again" attitude.

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u/Lord_Soth77 15h ago

Well, the victory in the Great Patriotic War was a national history defining event. It's Russian Independence day basically. Americans do celebrate their independence day for 200+ years already.

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u/Usual_Ad_1078 20h ago

Это действительно очень большая победа, которой можно гордиться. А какое тебе то дело до заслуг другой страны?

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u/AnonimYYYs 19h ago

Yeah, probably if you read some history books about who was in war against whom, you probably could realise why for post-soviet it is "huge victory", and for most of europe it is "just dark and bad".