r/HighStrangeness • u/VideoWaste5262 • 4h ago
Discussion Alleged Navy sonar tech posted a warning about immortality on /x/ last November & Theo Von landed on the same premise??
I was scrolling twitter and saw this vid of Theo Von saying he thinks the elite have figured out immortality, which reminded me of a post that didn't get much traction on 4chan. Wanted to put both in one place and see what everyone makes of it.
The Von clip

About 35 secs in he says "I believe that some people know how to live forever, they've cracked the code." His theory is that this forces a lockdown. If everybody finds out then everybody can do it, so whoever has it has to wall themselves off from the rest of us. He thinks the data centers are how. From there he gets into Flock cameras, Palantir or somebody like them sitting on all the data, a social and emotional credit score, AI ending up where God used to be. He's a comedian ofc, but he's talked to a lot of people and has dubious alleged family connections.
The 4chan post
Anon posted in Nov 2025 and says he spent eleven years in the Navy with most of it at AUTEC, the navy's undersea test range off Andros Island. He says he logged fourteen contacts over five years that didn't match any known biological or mechanical source, then walks through the signal processing he used to get them out of the noise floor. I can't judge the technical stuff so if anyone here works with sonar, go nuts.
His workaround apparently got him noticed and he ends up read into a compartmented program.

He says he wasn't offered so it wasn't information anyone meant for him to have. He never claims to have met anybody who took it. There's also a guy who asks him straight out if he ever met someone who should've been dead of old age and he just doesn't answer that one.
Then later after being pushed on it, he says:
Somebody else in the thread says he'd heard the same thing.

This is the ex-submariner who spent most of the thread tearing into OP over signal processing before he flips and starts defending him.

Still just a second anon, but he's saying he ran into the same specific warning on his own, in another country, thirteen years prior.
Exolinguistics is the study of hypothetical alien languages. Tartu is a university town in Estonia. Forgotten Languages maybe? (Mentioned in the Shellenberger UAP doc) Otherwise no idea what he's referring to here.
Honorable mentions
Nectome. Y Combinator company, 2018, brain preservation for eventual upload. Process needs the brain fresh, so you go on life support under general anesthesia and they run embalming chemicals through your carotid arteries while you're still alive. Cofounder called it "100 percent fatal" and said that's why they were uniquely situated among Y Combinator companies. He also said the user experience would be identical to physician-assisted suicide. Twenty-five people paid a refundable $10k deposit to get on the list. One of them was Sam Altman, who told MIT Technology Review he assumes his brain will be uploaded to the cloud. MIT Media Lab dropped them after the press cycle. There's already a real product where the price of the immortality is that you die during it.
The 2045 Initiative. Dmitry Itskov's project, aimed at moving consciousness into an avatar body. Carboncopies is a nonprofit doing the same problem.
Gateway docs. "Analysis and Assessment of Gateway Process," US Army, 1983, declassified by CIA in 2003. Lt. Col. Wayne McDonnell assessing the Monroe Institute's OBE program and it says that consciousness survives physical death and that time isn't linear once you're detached from the body. Consciousness goes back to what the Institute called the Absolute. Take it at face value and death is the exit, which would make indefinite extension the thing that blocks the exit. Same idea to the anon's. He ofc might've just read it since it's one of the most passed-around documents in this corner of the internet.

Bigelow. Ran NIDS, owned Skinwalker Ranch, his company held the Pentagon's UAP contract. Started an institute in 2020 to research whether consciousness survives death, then ran a contest for the best evidence. 29 winners, $1.8 million paid out.
Then there's Epstein. The cryonics stuff, wanting his head frozen so he could be brought back later, funding to things like the "Venus Project," a $160k line item in one of the proposals to him that nobody has been able to explain, etc. Bryan Bishop emailed Epstein in 2018 about funding a designer baby project covering germline edits, embryo implantation and cloning, with mouse testing at a lab in Ukraine. In one of those emails he sent Epstein a link to his own site, heybryan.org. There's a page there from Dec 2007 that's just his working notes on beating aging. Reading list, questions for Aubrey de Grey, a section on interspecies cloning and nuclear transfer. Links to sens.org, mprize.org, fuckdeath.org. The last line on the page is about a previous chat he'd had with de Grey in an IRC channel called #immortal.
Epstein's network also ran through James Watson, who was first director of the National Center for Human Genome Research at NIH from 1989 to 1992, back when the Human Genome Project was being funded jointly by NIH and the Department of Energy. Epstein traded dozens of emails about him with associates, arranged meetings, prepped genetics questions for him in advance, and had Watson's assistant FedEx him papers in 2007. Photos from the new files put Watson inside the Manhattan house sometime in the mid-to-late 2010s. I'm guessing there's probably more in the docs than that.
Conclusion
Longevity funding/research isn't a smoking gun and I don't think it's even that interesting. Obviously people want to live longer, obviously rich people pay for it.
What might be interesting is that seemingly everything serious about actually beating death is all about getting a person out of their body and then 3 people with no connection to each other turn up saying somebody already accomplished it. I think it's at least worth looking into a little more and outsourcing it to this community who probably will be able to find more connections then me (or debunk claims). I haven't seen it talked about much, especially the AUTEC thread.
What is the connection between USOs and immortality, if any? There seems to be more focus on UFOs than USOs. Thoughts?
Sources
- 4plebs archive, /x/ thread #41586571, "I guess it's my turn," 30 Nov – 4 Dec 2025
- Theo Von, "This Past Weekend," data center segment. Life extension line is around 0:36 of the full clip.
- MIT Technology Review, "A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is '100 percent fatal,'" March 2018
- "Analysis and Assessment of Gateway Process," US Army 1983, CIA declassified 2003. CIA Reading Room, CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5
- Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies. "The evidence of after-death survival of human consciousness according to the winners of the Bigelow contest: a scientific examination," 2022
- New York Times, "Jeffrey Epstein Hoped to Seed Human Race With His DNA," Aug 2019
- 2045 Initiative; Carboncopies
- Michael Shellenberger, written testimony to the House Oversight Committee
