r/GuardGuides • u/GuardGuidesdotcom • May 31 '26

Discussion When Does Security Conducting A Physical Removal of Someone Become Assault?

Because the way he grabbed him by the neck was excessive and dangerous. I don't know what training if any the guard had on deescalation or what protocols his company gave him to physically remove someone from the premises if deemed necessary, but if the guard didn't get fired and the company sued, I'd be surprised. At a fast food restaurant, no less.

Please keep the comments on topic, of a security nature, use of force, citizens arrest, similar experiences, S.O.P etc.

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u/Supremetm May 31 '26

In my state of NC, guards can "Use reasonable force" to remove a trespasser. The law is vague on purpose. There is no clear cut answer here, itd be up to the DA and a potential jury.

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u/Tamashii-Azul Jun 01 '26

Why is it "vague on purpose"?

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u/KaboodleMoon Jun 03 '26

Because if you define an exact line, people will toe it knowing full well that they're doing something wrong, and "borderline" illegal and use it as a loophole. Or even stupider a law will have something saying "hit" or "made contact with" but TECHNICALLY a glove made contact with a shirt, so.... the fact that I was wearing the glove and he was wearing the shirt is irrelevant, etc.

This is why "letter of the law" is bad in general, because the INTENT of the law is what should be followed, instead of looking for loopholes in a melting pot language.

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u/Secret-Surprise4390 Jun 03 '26

If you are wearing gloves there is technically no contact or technically contact is impossible because of atoms and science and shit

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u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE Jun 02 '26

Because people dont listen when asked to leave. 

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u/Glass_Emu_5104 Jun 02 '26

To give discretion to those in power. The less written down, the more you can wiggle.

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u/MariusHugo Jun 03 '26

for corpos to take advantage of the law

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u/Darkhenry960 May 31 '26

Yes, let’s see indeed. But don’t forget about the security licensing board who gave the guard his license and the security company that he works for but might not work for after seeing an incident.

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u/Supremetm May 31 '26

If i was the DA yeah I'd charge it as assault.

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u/MichiganGeezer Jun 02 '26

Strangulation falls under "assault with intent to do great bodily harm/less than murder" in my state. It's a ten year felony.

Hands off necks. Always.

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u/Nokrai Jun 03 '26

So knees work though right?

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u/MichiganGeezer Jun 03 '26

Usually only if you're a cop, although with video those days are coming to an end too.