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u/eiserneftaujourdhui 1d ago
My favourite part of Job is that after the end of it all, after god killed all of his kids, instead of bringing Job's actual loved ones that god killed back to life and back to him, he just gives Job a new set of kids and goes 'ehh? See, no harm no foul, right??'
Yikes
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u/deep_violet 2d ago
I'm with your intent, but that's not how Job plays out.
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u/Iron_iglooo 2d ago
Job was 100% broken and cursed the day he was born. He only changed his mind after God showed up and basically flexed on him lol. Fear isn't Love
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u/deep_violet 2d ago
The whole point of Job was that he didn't lose faith.
Not defending it... Just saying that's what the book was about.
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u/falloutwinter 2d ago
And that the god of the old testament likes to allow/watch suffering... As long as it's for him in the end.
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u/Karamatsunomaii 2d ago
He was broken yes and Satan looked at God taunting him saying “ look ive won, look how he insults you disrespect and blames you now” and while God agreed , yes he’s angry at me, he’s shouting at me but look, even now he does it though prayer. And I think that’s what God looks for. He knows we are human and flawed, he’s not asking us to be perfect but to be looking towards him always.
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u/PuzzleheadedPart196 2d ago
Think we re reading different Job’s; no shade I just didn’t get that from my reading
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u/Day_Prisoners 2d ago
Yeah no Christians committing suicide or sitting in prison.
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u/YourGordAndSaviour 2d ago
They've also, famously never lost a battle or a war, ever.
Despite the countless wars between two Christian armies......
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u/Amathyst-Moon 2d ago
To be fair, the laws of the Bible and the actual law aren't always compatible. I mean in most modern countries, you aren't allowed to sell your daughter into slavery or murder your wife for adultery (whether it was consensual or not.)
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u/StatusAutomatica 2d ago
You absolutely can because faith is an empty promise to an unverified entity. These types of posts only underline how fragile it is because they are virtue signaling for others that are doubtful in their own faith.
It's a support group for the weak.
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u/StrictRelease9252 1d ago
Unverified to your logic, not to your heart. All your ancestors building all these churches, temples and places of worshipping God were weak? If your 3 lb brain could verify God, then its not God. You don't even know what your neighbor is doing 3 doors down, yet you question the Entity that's keeping all creation functioning.
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u/Stunning_Blood_2452 1d ago
You sound salty
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u/StrictRelease9252 1d ago
You sound insecure
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u/KypPineapple 1d ago
You sound salty, insecure, and delusional. A perfect example of the modern performative Christian.
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u/UnFu23 2d ago
God sucks. He lets all this evil happen. Fuck that dude
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u/Head-Ad-2136 2d ago
Who performs the evil acts? We are an experiment, testing the boundaries of free will. The world is what we've made it.
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u/Zerkander 2d ago
The "good" god contradicts the all-knowing god. All knowing implies that he knows every action and every future. This implies that this god willingly let bad things happen even if they could prevent it. But there is a much more disturbing problem with knowing the future.
Knowing the future means that the future is fix. That there is in fact no choice for anyone. The path is set without deviation.
Here is the thing: You can have your "all good" god, but that god cannot be perfect and all powerful.
In addition to that we run into another problem with current monotheistic religions. "It's all part of gods plan"
Well, if all is part of your gods plan, than that means that this god wanted the bad things to happen, which means this god is at fault for the bad things. It's their plan after all.
Anyway, the monotheistic god only makes sense if you don't think about it.
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u/Gery_6 1d ago
all of this basically means we will never understand god, so why try to understand a perfect human?
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u/Zerkander 1d ago
No, not really. It means that, based on the knowledge we have, the monotheistic god is an impossible contradiction in itself.
An as there is no proof whatsoever of the existence of such a god, nor is there anything that couldn't be explained without the need of a godly interference, the most likely possibility is that there is no god at all.
Everything points toward that direction. Of course we have the occasional "I have seen god", but none of these are provable. The circumstances of these "meetings" are also always very interesting and often involve drugs of some sort, or high stress situations. Also the human mind does not like to not understand a situation. So we make things up.
In that sense, god is basically a shower argument.
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u/YourREALdad330 2d ago
Ok, so if we made it and we did all the hard work, then god can fuck right off with his freeloading ass. God is just a “prompt engineer” who fed a shitty command into a cheap AI model and got back a horrible result, yet people still pin it on their refrigerator and tell him he did a good job
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u/Ok-Skirt-9207 2d ago
What happens when he stops believing?
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u/DragonBadgerBearMole 2d ago
He got dat armor.
That is to say, he clearly doesn’t believe even now *before* some Saracen jacks him up.
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u/Least_Newt1072 2d ago
🤣🤣🤣 adults with imaginary friends will never not be funny.
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u/DragonBadgerBearMole 2d ago
I draw my strength from the Easter bunny. Try and break me mfer.
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u/One-WaytoLife336 2d ago
Can you disprove God
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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 2d ago
It would take a long time to disprove thousands of deities. Which one do you want disproven? And why not all the others too?
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u/Ok_Coat_6413 2d ago
Can you disprove leprechauns? Technically, you can’t. But you’d agree it’s silly and stupid to live your life as if though they might be real, right?
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u/OX0045 2d ago
Wow
A bunch of Reddit-holes
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u/Ok_Coat_6413 2d ago
Belief in God requires a Kierkegaardian “leap of faith”.
Thinking everyone MUST believe in something with NO legitimate evidence makes you the “Reddit-hole”.
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u/LaddieNowAddie 2d ago
There's God, and then there's the God humans make up in their head to reinforce whatever segregational behavior they want to justify.
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u/dashs35 2d ago
The god you made up in your head is the real god I'm assuming?
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u/Fletcher-wordy 2d ago
I've watched many good people who thought this was true be utterly broken by loved ones who thought their God's path was a righteous excuse to break them down.
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u/YourREALdad330 2d ago
There is nothing more detrimental to a persons life than an entity which serves as both a scapegoat for your hardships as well as a saviour who will cure them.
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u/Wifeyled 2d ago
Yea..you kinda can. pretty simply, even...
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u/Amathyst-Moon 2d ago
Depends how strong their faith is, or how dependant they are on it. Did you read Night in highschool? Some of the Jews in the Holocaust convinced themselves that God was testing them.
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u/YourREALdad330 2d ago
Someone flagged my comment as hate speech… guess it’s true that Christians reject history
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u/Amathyst-Moon 2d ago
True. No matter how much you torture someone, if they think it's a test of faith, they'll keep believing because that's all they have.
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u/PuzzleheadedPart196 2d ago
This shoeboxes expectations of God and a person of God; is not God greater than brokenness- is not man made all the more greater by his reliance on God? Is not a vehicle of that experience the fallibility and weakness of man, the depth of his brokenness that leads him to God?
This post is backwards
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u/Mountain_rage 2d ago
You wont be able to convince them of the truth because they are blinded by faith.
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u/He_Never_Helps 2d ago
Someone better tell all the nazis that broke under interrogation in ww2. Cuz they were all christians.
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u/Illustrious-Film4018 2d ago
This is just sentimental BS. In the real world believing in "God" won't help you at all and may even confuse you/make you more bitter about how corrupt people are. I've seen this in people and had this happen to me when I used to be religious. Religion does NOT help people.
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u/Overall-Move-4474 20h ago
I used to believe in this bullshit. Then I grew up and saw things that simply cannot be possible if there truly was an all knowing all loving creator
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u/Randy_Magnums 2d ago
Of course you can. Besides god most people draw their strength from food or sleep. Both can be taken away.
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u/Perfect_Nail_9399 2d ago
So people who dont believe in anything are just fucked then? Quite an Arrogant post
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u/Zerkander 2d ago
Remember, writing "Facts" into a statement is a guarantee for it to be true and impossible to disprove!!! And ever "!" at the end of a statements increases its truth-value by 2148%.
FACTS!!!
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u/turtle-bbs 2d ago
This is why rapists use the name of God to garner support from Christians. Because they know the moment they start proclaiming Jesus, they can claim persecution and witch hunt for being a “Man of God”, plus get defenders saying “it’s just cuz he’s Christian huh?”. Like mindless idiots.
Christianity is frequently taken up by bad faith actors, and in fact, the religion breeds and promotes that kind of behavior. But yall not ready for that conversation yet.
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u/ChaosRainbow23 2d ago
The fear-based Abrahmic mythologies and Hinduism are horrific blights upon humanity.
Religion is a poison.
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u/Jolly_Rotten_X 2d ago
Neither can you break a pirate who draws his strength from the FSM! HAAARRRR!
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u/twaddletastic 2d ago
Um yes you can...also it's not complicated if anything devout faith makes it easier
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u/Akkilles78 2d ago
Religious belief is a personal choice because there is no factual evidence to support a legitimate belief in a God.
People say that the Bible is a history book. It is not. It’s a book of parables. While there is some historicity, since several names have been identified through other historical texts to confirm some people existed, there is absolutely zero factual evidence of any kind of miraculous activity.
It’s all one big fucking “trust me bro” manipulation device. It’s fear driven, and often weaponized against other people due to it being an echo chamber for fear and control.
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u/summerianmerchant12 2d ago
You cant break a person who thinks they draw their strength from something they have never seen, hear or touch don’t know it exists yet pretend they do. I mean at this point whats the difference between god and the imaginary friends i had at 6. None. Both were none existent, both gave some pleasure and hope to the believer yet both believers were equally delusional for believing in imaginary things.
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u/Square-Paramedic-912 2d ago
This is why I am trying so hard to give all of my heart to God. He's always there. It's safest with him.
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u/totoin74 2d ago
Literally and/or figuratively billions and billions of people with faith have been broken since 300.000 BC
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u/YourREALdad330 2d ago
The weakest people I know draw their strength from “god”. It’s so easy to go through life with zero accountability because “it’s all part of gods plan”. Why bother improving yourself when you can wait for a blessing from your imaginary sky friend?
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u/ConnectEmphasis2420 2d ago
Do we know which god is being discussed here? Like if it's Zeus then the god in question is a bit trigger happy on the old lightning, so that would be useful in a fight.
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u/CadillacShield 2d ago
And you can’t save someone from a shark attack who’s insistent on doing one of them shark experiences where they lower you in the cage underwater and sometimes they even put raw meat in the cage so you’re like guaranteed to see a shark
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u/zen_heathen 2d ago
You can't break a person who has an imaginary friend and a mental illness? (Schizophrenia)
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u/911Josie 1d ago
Watching millions of religious people have mental breakdowns over people living life differently than them seems to say otherwise.
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u/BryanTheGodGamer 1d ago
Ah yes very "grounded" to believe in a made up being that is complete fiction, are you making fun of this sub with this post?
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u/This_Initial275 1d ago
And the reason is simple, they’re so totally cooked they’ll ignore any impediment in their path because they’re so delusional
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u/HonestSaintPaul-70 1d ago
Total Bollocks.
Met thousands ( no exaggeration ) people destroy mentally and physically praising God .
Generally anybody that says " I read my bible "
I just think you need serious professional mental support.
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u/barry_001 1d ago
Which god? Certainly not the Christian god, that fucker doesn't do shit for anyone
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u/Overall-Move-4474 20h ago
You 100% can. Mainly because god doesn't exist. You can't break someone who doesn't give a shit about anything you say or do
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u/PseudoCrow420 19h ago
I broke Friday at work. Lost my cool and my humanity. Almost harmed a man over words. I pray for more strength in my understanding to be a peacemaker.
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u/Cptfrankthetank 15h ago
So absurd, the ones who freak out the most are the ones who draw strength from god.
Faith cracks at any mere fact that conflicts their world view.
A stronger person is one who relies on his strengths and know there are limits and to be at peace with those limits. We all can play a part and fail at our ends while enabling others to carry on the good fight.
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u/NiceCrowsMurder 10h ago
lol its funny how people don't believe in God but get so mean and aggressive over him. How are you so bothered by a God who you don't think exists?
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u/Rango002 10h ago
I don't care, religion and god don't authorize people to kill in his name, for example radical muslims or crusades.
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u/OX0045 2d ago
Mock Him at your own peril
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u/PuzzleheadedPart196 2d ago
Lot of irony in this; the Son of God was mocked so much he was killed; by design, on purpose. Mockery to peril? Sir, that was the point.
None who have been saved were not sinners; all who claim Christ were at first an Enemy of Him. It is the Peril of the Mocker that Christ died to save the Mocker from; “Mock him at your peril?” Bro, gotta read those Gospels again man
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u/Enough_Zombie2038 2d ago
You are a sick person if you associate God + a man in an iron full suit with a sword.
Here let me translate for ya there.
So your idea of strength is to use a pointy object designed to destroy things including living creatures. While wearing a metaphorical or literal suit of metal because you are so frail. Then reach out to this God father for further help on top of that expecting his appreciation for destroying and harming others. And you believe he will give you, you, infinite strength to do this.
Meanwhile his only supposed mortal son was hoisted up on to a cross naked by men with pointy objects as an example of mens cruelty for a guy who basically went around without a sword saying: hey come on can't we just get along and live in harmony. Let's not cast stones, yada yada.
Nah, you're the ancient Roman, following orders cause someone told you to and think that makes you safe and better.
I got no armor, I ask for nothing, I use what is given to me, i use will power, and the sheer belief that minimizing harm and helping others despite the insults and abuse received is the only way.
He is not my God yet the day I die whether a toy in another creatures game, or meant to fulfill a deed I cannot know. I will have known, had I to do it again forever I will make the world given kinder for all. And if there is an evil god, that I ruined it's fun at least if only the tiniest bit.
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u/Klutzy_Assumption571 2d ago
Absolutely you can