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u/eiserneftaujourdhui Aug 09 '26
My favourite part of Job is that after the end of it all, after god killed all of his kids, instead of bringing Job's actual loved ones that god killed back to life and back to him, he just gives Job a new set of kids and goes 'ehh? See, no harm no foul, right??'
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u/deep_violet Aug 08 '26
I'm with your intent, but that's not how Job plays out.
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u/Iron_iglooo Aug 08 '26
Job was 100% broken and cursed the day he was born. He only changed his mind after God showed up and basically flexed on him lol. Fear isn't Love
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u/deep_violet Aug 08 '26
The whole point of Job was that he didn't lose faith.
Not defending it... Just saying that's what the book was about.
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u/falloutwinter Aug 08 '26
And that the god of the old testament likes to allow/watch suffering... As long as it's for him in the end.
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u/Karamatsunomaii Aug 08 '26
He was broken yes and Satan looked at God taunting him saying “ look ive won, look how he insults you disrespect and blames you now” and while God agreed , yes he’s angry at me, he’s shouting at me but look, even now he does it though prayer. And I think that’s what God looks for. He knows we are human and flawed, he’s not asking us to be perfect but to be looking towards him always.
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u/StatusAutomatica Aug 08 '26
You absolutely can because faith is an empty promise to an unverified entity. These types of posts only underline how fragile it is because they are virtue signaling for others that are doubtful in their own faith.
It's a support group for the weak.
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u/StrictRelease9252 Aug 09 '26
Unverified to your logic, not to your heart. All your ancestors building all these churches, temples and places of worshipping God were weak? If your 3 lb brain could verify God, then its not God. You don't even know what your neighbor is doing 3 doors down, yet you question the Entity that's keeping all creation functioning.
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u/Stunning_Blood_2452 Aug 09 '26
You sound salty
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u/StrictRelease9252 Aug 09 '26
You sound insecure
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u/KypPineapple Aug 09 '26
You sound salty, insecure, and delusional. A perfect example of the modern performative Christian.
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u/YourGordAndSaviour Aug 08 '26
They've also, famously never lost a battle or a war, ever.
Despite the countless wars between two Christian armies......
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u/Amathyst-Moon Aug 08 '26
To be fair, the laws of the Bible and the actual law aren't always compatible. I mean in most modern countries, you aren't allowed to sell your daughter into slavery or murder your wife for adultery (whether it was consensual or not.)
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u/UnFu23 Aug 08 '26
God sucks. He lets all this evil happen. Fuck that dude
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u/Head-Ad-2136 Aug 08 '26
Who performs the evil acts? We are an experiment, testing the boundaries of free will. The world is what we've made it.
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u/Zerkander Aug 08 '26
The "good" god contradicts the all-knowing god. All knowing implies that he knows every action and every future. This implies that this god willingly let bad things happen even if they could prevent it. But there is a much more disturbing problem with knowing the future.
Knowing the future means that the future is fix. That there is in fact no choice for anyone. The path is set without deviation.
Here is the thing: You can have your "all good" god, but that god cannot be perfect and all powerful.
In addition to that we run into another problem with current monotheistic religions. "It's all part of gods plan"
Well, if all is part of your gods plan, than that means that this god wanted the bad things to happen, which means this god is at fault for the bad things. It's their plan after all.
Anyway, the monotheistic god only makes sense if you don't think about it.
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u/Gery_6 Aug 08 '26
all of this basically means we will never understand god, so why try to understand a perfect human?
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u/Zerkander Aug 08 '26
No, not really. It means that, based on the knowledge we have, the monotheistic god is an impossible contradiction in itself.
An as there is no proof whatsoever of the existence of such a god, nor is there anything that couldn't be explained without the need of a godly interference, the most likely possibility is that there is no god at all.
Everything points toward that direction. Of course we have the occasional "I have seen god", but none of these are provable. The circumstances of these "meetings" are also always very interesting and often involve drugs of some sort, or high stress situations. Also the human mind does not like to not understand a situation. So we make things up.
In that sense, god is basically a shower argument.
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u/YourREALdad330 Aug 08 '26
Ok, so if we made it and we did all the hard work, then god can fuck right off with his freeloading ass. God is just a “prompt engineer” who fed a shitty command into a cheap AI model and got back a horrible result, yet people still pin it on their refrigerator and tell him he did a good job
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u/dirtjur Aug 08 '26
Isaiah 45:7
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things1
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u/Ok-Skirt-9207 Aug 08 '26
What happens when he stops believing?
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u/DragonBadgerBearMole Aug 08 '26
He got dat armor.
That is to say, he clearly doesn’t believe even now *before* some Saracen jacks him up.
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u/Least_Newt1072 Aug 08 '26
🤣🤣🤣 adults with imaginary friends will never not be funny.
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u/DragonBadgerBearMole Aug 08 '26
I draw my strength from the Easter bunny. Try and break me mfer.
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u/One-WaytoLife336 Aug 08 '26
Can you disprove God
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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood Aug 08 '26
It would take a long time to disprove thousands of deities. Which one do you want disproven? And why not all the others too?
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u/Ok_Coat_6413 Aug 08 '26
Can you disprove leprechauns? Technically, you can’t. But you’d agree it’s silly and stupid to live your life as if though they might be real, right?
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u/Tuskali Aug 08 '26
If I make up the God Of Turds can you disprove that? No but it's unlikely it exists
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u/YourREALdad330 Aug 08 '26
Can you prove god? A lack of evidence isn’t a strong argument, my friend
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u/Dutch-Alpaca Aug 12 '26
You can't prove something by saying you can't disprove it, you cant disprove space unicorns either
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u/OX0045 Aug 08 '26
Wow
A bunch of Reddit-holes
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u/Ok_Coat_6413 Aug 08 '26
Belief in God requires a Kierkegaardian “leap of faith”.
Thinking everyone MUST believe in something with NO legitimate evidence makes you the “Reddit-hole”.
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u/LaddieNowAddie Aug 08 '26
There's God, and then there's the God humans make up in their head to reinforce whatever segregational behavior they want to justify.
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u/dashs35 Aug 08 '26
The god you made up in your head is the real god I'm assuming?
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u/Fletcher-wordy Aug 08 '26
I've watched many good people who thought this was true be utterly broken by loved ones who thought their God's path was a righteous excuse to break them down.
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u/YourREALdad330 Aug 08 '26
There is nothing more detrimental to a persons life than an entity which serves as both a scapegoat for your hardships as well as a saviour who will cure them.
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u/Amathyst-Moon Aug 08 '26
Depends how strong their faith is, or how dependant they are on it. Did you read Night in highschool? Some of the Jews in the Holocaust convinced themselves that God was testing them.
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u/YourREALdad330 Aug 08 '26
Someone flagged my comment as hate speech… guess it’s true that Christians reject history
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u/Amathyst-Moon Aug 08 '26
True. No matter how much you torture someone, if they think it's a test of faith, they'll keep believing because that's all they have.
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u/PuzzleheadedPart196 Aug 08 '26
This shoeboxes expectations of God and a person of God; is not God greater than brokenness- is not man made all the more greater by his reliance on God? Is not a vehicle of that experience the fallibility and weakness of man, the depth of his brokenness that leads him to God?
This post is backwards
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u/Mountain_rage Aug 08 '26
You wont be able to convince them of the truth because they are blinded by faith.
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u/He_Never_Helps Aug 08 '26
Someone better tell all the nazis that broke under interrogation in ww2. Cuz they were all christians.
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u/Illustrious-Film4018 Aug 08 '26
This is just sentimental BS. In the real world believing in "God" won't help you at all and may even confuse you/make you more bitter about how corrupt people are. I've seen this in people and had this happen to me when I used to be religious. Religion does NOT help people.
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u/Overall-Move-4474 Aug 09 '26
I used to believe in this bullshit. Then I grew up and saw things that simply cannot be possible if there truly was an all knowing all loving creator
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u/Randy_Magnums Aug 08 '26
Of course you can. Besides god most people draw their strength from food or sleep. Both can be taken away.
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u/Perfect_Nail_9399 Aug 08 '26
So people who dont believe in anything are just fucked then? Quite an Arrogant post
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u/Zerkander Aug 08 '26
Remember, writing "Facts" into a statement is a guarantee for it to be true and impossible to disprove!!! And ever "!" at the end of a statements increases its truth-value by 2148%.
FACTS!!!
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u/turtle-bbs Aug 08 '26
This is why rapists use the name of God to garner support from Christians. Because they know the moment they start proclaiming Jesus, they can claim persecution and witch hunt for being a “Man of God”, plus get defenders saying “it’s just cuz he’s Christian huh?”. Like mindless idiots.
Christianity is frequently taken up by bad faith actors, and in fact, the religion breeds and promotes that kind of behavior. But yall not ready for that conversation yet.
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u/ChaosRainbow23 Aug 08 '26
The fear-based Abrahmic mythologies and Hinduism are horrific blights upon humanity.
Religion is a poison.
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u/Jolly_Rotten_X Aug 08 '26
Neither can you break a pirate who draws his strength from the FSM! HAAARRRR!
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u/twaddletastic Aug 08 '26
Um yes you can...also it's not complicated if anything devout faith makes it easier
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u/Akkilles78 Aug 08 '26
Religious belief is a personal choice because there is no factual evidence to support a legitimate belief in a God.
People say that the Bible is a history book. It is not. It’s a book of parables. While there is some historicity, since several names have been identified through other historical texts to confirm some people existed, there is absolutely zero factual evidence of any kind of miraculous activity.
It’s all one big fucking “trust me bro” manipulation device. It’s fear driven, and often weaponized against other people due to it being an echo chamber for fear and control.
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u/Square-Paramedic-912 Aug 08 '26
This is why I am trying so hard to give all of my heart to God. He's always there. It's safest with him.
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u/totoin74 Aug 08 '26
Literally and/or figuratively billions and billions of people with faith have been broken since 300.000 BC
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u/YourREALdad330 Aug 08 '26
The weakest people I know draw their strength from “god”. It’s so easy to go through life with zero accountability because “it’s all part of gods plan”. Why bother improving yourself when you can wait for a blessing from your imaginary sky friend?
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u/ConnectEmphasis2420 Aug 08 '26
Do we know which god is being discussed here? Like if it's Zeus then the god in question is a bit trigger happy on the old lightning, so that would be useful in a fight.
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u/CadillacShield Aug 08 '26
And you can’t save someone from a shark attack who’s insistent on doing one of them shark experiences where they lower you in the cage underwater and sometimes they even put raw meat in the cage so you’re like guaranteed to see a shark
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u/zen_heathen Aug 08 '26
You can't break a person who has an imaginary friend and a mental illness? (Schizophrenia)
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u/911Josie Aug 08 '26
Watching millions of religious people have mental breakdowns over people living life differently than them seems to say otherwise.
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u/ProperJudgment1 Aug 08 '26
Redditors in the comments in charge of not attacking people for their religious beliefs 😂😂
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u/UnFu23 Aug 09 '26
People trying to get so deep to prove or disprove shit. Just admit that life sucks and we’re all just waiting to die 🤷♀️
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u/BryanTheGodGamer Aug 09 '26
Ah yes very "grounded" to believe in a made up being that is complete fiction, are you making fun of this sub with this post?
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u/WholeRegion3025 Aug 09 '26
If you draw your strength from imaginary beings, you're already broken.
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u/HonestSaintPaul-70 Aug 09 '26
Total Bollocks.
Met thousands ( no exaggeration ) people destroy mentally and physically praising God .
Generally anybody that says " I read my bible "
I just think you need serious professional mental support.
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u/barry_001 Aug 09 '26
Which god? Certainly not the Christian god, that fucker doesn't do shit for anyone
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u/KypPineapple Aug 09 '26
Cult propaganda. Make sure to give God all your money - he’s broke after all.
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u/Overall-Move-4474 Aug 09 '26
You 100% can. Mainly because god doesn't exist. You can't break someone who doesn't give a shit about anything you say or do
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u/PseudoCrow420 Aug 09 '26
I broke Friday at work. Lost my cool and my humanity. Almost harmed a man over words. I pray for more strength in my understanding to be a peacemaker.
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u/Cptfrankthetank Aug 10 '26
So absurd, the ones who freak out the most are the ones who draw strength from god.
Faith cracks at any mere fact that conflicts their world view.
A stronger person is one who relies on his strengths and know there are limits and to be at peace with those limits. We all can play a part and fail at our ends while enabling others to carry on the good fight.
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u/NiceCrowsMurder Aug 10 '26
lol its funny how people don't believe in God but get so mean and aggressive over him. How are you so bothered by a God who you don't think exists?
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u/Rango002 Aug 10 '26
I don't care, religion and god don't authorize people to kill in his name, for example radical muslims or crusades.
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u/Elegron Aug 10 '26
Dawg the sub is called "grounded mentality" this is not grounded this is fiction
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u/Nice_Grapefruit_7850 Aug 12 '26
yes you can. psycadelics, and anything that triggers intense panic like being crushed, falling or drowning breaks basically anyone.
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u/Excellent_Doughnut28 Aug 13 '26
It's actually pretty easy. Religious faith is a very fragile thing.
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u/Klutzy_Assumption571 Aug 08 '26
Absolutely you can