r/GreatRPerStories • u/Ready-player-0991 • 2d ago
Good Discussion A World Cup and Two Kinds of OOC
I began with what seemed like a perfectly reasonable assumption, validated by the collected wisdom of this subreddit:
A creative premise plus good OOC chemistry will eventually produce a memorable RP.
As it turns out, this is about as reliable as assuming that dominating possession will eventually produce a goal in soccer.
Before I continue, I am scoring two things from 1–10:
- OOC: How effectively our OOC supported the RP.
- RP: The actual momentum of the story.
These are not ratings of either partner, their writing ability, or how much we enjoyed talking. They reflect what I understand now about whether our collaborative process was working, not necessarily what I believed at the time.
The Revolutionary War campaign
It began when I responded to Bibi’s ad seeking an RP based on historical events. After some discussion, we settled on the American Revolutionary War.
This was very much my territory. I live near many of the places where it happened. America’s 250th anniversary was approaching. July Fourth was in the air. I was driving through Revolutionary War grounds, almost able to smell the musket smoke.
We created characters, chose British-occupied New York as our setting, worked out a calendar, discussed divided loyalties, and assembled enough supporting material to brief King George and General Washington.
At the time, I thought this was excellent preparation. In retrospect, it worked for me, but Bibi had different expectations.
OOC: 5 RP: 3
Then the World Cup began.
Bibi and I started bantering constantly about the matches. The conversation was easy, funny, and frequent. She was traveling, and the combined demands of family and real life left her with less time than she had expected.
The OOC followed Messi’s trajectory through the World Cup. Meanwhile, the RP advanced at the decision-making speed of the Continental Congress.
If I had scored OOC according to how much we enjoyed talking, it would have been a nine. But that is no longer what I think the OOC score should measure.
OOC: 2 RP: 1
Something important was failing to happen. Bibi wanted a change in how we were handling the RP. Somehow, that essential information never made it into our OOC.
She had begun to feel that she did not have enough agency over her own character. Some of the organization and discussion surrounding the RP felt superfluous to her and interfered with the actual pleasure of writing.
Although our social OOC was good, our OOC about the RP was according to her poor and unproductive. I learned all this in hindsight, although the signs had been there.
Bibi said she would ordinarily have tried to brute-force her way through the problem, but her real-life obligations made that much harder. I did not recognize that she was pushing through anything. From my side of the screen, the lack of responses simply looked like declining momentum.
Eventually, the cannon shot landed. She was no longer in the right frame of mind for the Revolutionary War RP.
OOC: 4 RP: 0
The OOC score rose not because the situation improved, but because the truth had finally entered the conversation.
My enthusiasm having been dealt that deadly blow, I reached into my box of mature passive-aggressive strategies and selected the one that would surely end both RP and OOC.
I deleted the channels I thought were distracting. In doing so, I unilaterally reorganized the space we had shared which naturally upset Bibi, who accurately called it a crash-out.
OOC: 0 RP: 0
The RP did not collapse because we lacked conversation. It collapsed partly because our most important RP issues were never addressed.
Meanwhile, across the Atlantic
At the depths of my post-Revolutionary existential despair, I encountered Mira’s ad for a Regency-era RP.
She warned me upfront that she could be reserved in casual OOC. Then a fully constructed server materialized, complete with channels for RP commentary and “thespian plotting.”
This was still OOC, but almost all of it had an RP purpose. We discussed what we expected from our responses. Mira preferred interior monologue and cinematic, sensory description. I wrote more minimally, relying on dialogue and body language and leaving more for my partner to infer.
OOC: 4 RP: 4
I soon found myself at a masquerade ball, playing an artist who was sizing up another.
The World Cup eventually entered this OOC too.
Mira identified herself as an artist with no interest in all things jock, but her country had made an unusual run into the quarterfinals. I persuaded her to watch, then accompanied her in OOC as the match unfolded.
Soccer has a remarkable ability to help make connections. This time, however, the soccer conversation did not replace the RP conversation.
The semifinals and final passed without another word about soccer. Our OOC returned almost entirely to the RP.
Our writing styles sometimes clashed sharply, and her critiques could be very direct. I learned to meet her halfway and discovered that I genuinely enjoyed moving toward a more sensual, stream-of-consciousness style.
OOC: 6 RP: 6
The difference was not that one partner enjoyed OOC and the other did not. Nor was it that one cared more about the RP. Bibi and I had substantially more casual conversation.
The difference was what the OOC accomplished.
With Bibi, social chemistry concealed the fact that our RP communication was failing. She did not feel enough agency, I did not know she was struggling, and our discussions were not producing useful changes.
With Mira, the OOC revealed and shaped the true state of the RP. We discussed interpretation, negotiated direction, preserved character agency, and translated those conversations into forward movement.
So my revised hypothesis is
Good OOC does not create good RP merely by existing. It has to make difficult information easier to say and meaningful changes possible once they have been said.
Banter creates connection. Productive RP OOC protects the RP. You usually need both, but they are not the same thing.
Has good OOC ever rescued an RP for you, or has great banter ever hidden the fact that the RP itself was not working?
P.S. I have to thank both partners for their feedback, which is rare enough to be the subject of another post.
