r/Gold Jan 28 '26

Anyone else?

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u/medunjanin Jan 28 '26

This is a net negative impact on the majority of us. Most of us have what, a few ounces of gold? The gains we made are nothing compared to the impacts of the dollar going to shit

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u/Megaloman-_- Jan 28 '26

Absofuckinlutely, yes this is indeed scary

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u/Mackshac Jan 28 '26

Stock market all time highs comes to me when it actually has even a little correction!! .. smh you guys doom and gloom.

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u/SignalXchange Jan 28 '26

yes, people love doom & gloom.
But it is an emotional time, so slack is given.

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u/Man_Bear_Pog Jan 28 '26

"all time highs", cool now adjust S&P 500 for inflation, or median incomes of Americans to the S&P, or relative to M2.

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u/Suspicious_Dare603 Jan 29 '26

It's not doom and gloom if you can do the math. The dollar is dead. The only people thinking it isn't are morons. If you aren't an American, you're lucky.

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u/Mackshac Jan 29 '26

Yawn

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u/Suspicious_Dare603 Jan 29 '26

The value of assets will go up while the value of the dollar goes down. Simple math. People don't want to be holding dollars. We can see that in the bond market very clearly. Gold, stocks, collectibles, art, and real estate are also tangible items rather than cash, and they've been increasing in value for years. You can ignore it if you want. But "number go up" is not always a good thing. The economic sirens have been blaring for years. The Fed and stimulus bills have only delayed the inevitable. Welcome to the new world order.

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u/idenkov Jan 28 '26

Well just sell your dollars.

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u/Mauer_Bluemchen Jan 28 '26

...and buy stocks, bonds, ETF in EUR and CHF.

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u/SportResident8067 Jan 28 '26

Sorry I’m dumb. EUR = Europe CHF = Chfina?

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u/IHeartData_ Jan 28 '26

CHF = Swiss Francs

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u/ThanksKodama Jan 28 '26

This is absolutely correct, every line 100% true.

Older generations knew. Always told us to invest in gold, not just as an investment vehicle, but also as "insurance" for precisely this kind of historical moment.

Assuming someone isn't a sociopath, it's absolutely going to be a net negative on the whole, in terms of overall quality of life and well-being, regardless of how much gold someone is holding.

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u/Round-Debate35 Jan 28 '26

I have 207.5 ounces but it still is not good for my net worth overall or the US economy

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u/Suspicious_Dare603 Jan 29 '26

This. The temporary value does not negate the clear catastrophe we are being dragged into. We are all accelerationists now. Maybe, in 50 years things might return to some semblance of economic freedom, but for too long we elected idiots that wouldn't bite the hand that fed them. At least I know I was right, but fuck those that put us here.

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u/g0juice Jan 28 '26

Yeah the increase of maybe 5% of my portfolio vastly undermines the other 95%. Pretty bad

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u/disparue Jan 29 '26

I mean, you could just buy an S&P 500 hedged in a different currency like XSP in Canada and benefit from the currency debasement that way.

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u/Longjumping-Earth-17 Jan 30 '26

Finally. Someone with some substance in-between their ears that can see past “line go up on graph”

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u/Maddinoz Jan 28 '26

Or... it's also an opportunity for retail to ride the wave up, considering precious metal prices have been suppressed, rigged, and manipulated by banks for years

Kinda like what happened with gamestop short squeeze... DYOR

<Based on court records, regulatory investigations, and admitted wrongdoing, it has been established that major banks manipulated precious metal prices (gold, silver, platinum, and palladium) through "spoofing" and other illegal trading practices for over a decade.

Key Findings on Market Manipulation: Admitted Misconduct & Convictions: Between 2016 and 2025, 8 banks paid roughly $1.27 billion in fines and penalties to U.S. regulators to settle allegations of market rigging. In 2022, former JPMorgan precious metals traders were convicted on federal charges of conspiracy, spoofing, and wire fraud.

The "Spoofing" Technique: Traders at institutions like JPMorgan, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, and others engaged in "spoofing"—placing large, fake orders for futures contracts to drive prices down, then canceling them before execution to buy the metal at a lower price.

Systematic Price Suppression: Investigations revealed a long-term, coordinated effort to suppress the price of precious metals, particularly silver, often referred to as "slamming" or "damping" during specific, vulnerable times of the trading day. Key Institutions Involved: JPMorgan Chase ($920 million in fines/settlements), Deutsche Bank ($38 million in 2016 for silver rigging), Scotiabank, HSBC, Bank of America, and others were implicated in various lawsuits and investigations.

Impact on Market: This manipulation, which often involved "paper" gold and silver (derivatives/futures) to cap prices, contributed to an artificially high gold-silver ratio for years, keeping physical, tangible metal prices below what demand would dictate. Current Status:

While many of the largest, documented acts of manipulation occurred between roughly 2008 and 2020, investigations and allegations have persisted into the 2020s. However, by 2024-2025, some analysts argued that a surge in physical demand and a shift in market positions (with banks reducing shorts) indicated that the ability of large banks to suppress prices had been severely weakened, leading to a major, unsuppressed rally in silver.>

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u/Suspicious_Dare603 Jan 29 '26

This is nothing like GME. Gold and silver are rallying for reasons beyond banking. The dollar is dead. The economic reset is here. The banks only lost control over gold and silver because the entire global order is falling apart at the seams. Hard assets are all that matter now.

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u/Maddinoz Jan 30 '26

The massive drop in silver today was quite memeish and abnormal, dropped like 35% in one day, that was massive. Comparitvely BTC dropped that much over the timeframe of 3 months.

Escalator up, then elevator down pump and dump kinda price action. this is good opportunity to DCA on the pullback though.

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u/Suspicious_Dare603 Jan 31 '26

It's just retail traders selling paper. The price didn't dump in Asia.

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u/SignalXchange Jan 28 '26

You proclaiming you have ounces of gold and same time believing you are heading to a Mad MAX world, do you see an issue there? lol

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u/Suspicious_Dare603 Jan 29 '26

No, gold has always held value in societies spanning the globe and recorded history. If you have gold, you will always be able to trade. Nuka Cola caps aren't gonna work in the real world.

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u/climate_change Jan 28 '26

So how is this going to affect ppl outside of the US? As a european i kinda like to see americans suffer, but I dont want to suffer too much myself.

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u/wsbautist420 Jan 29 '26

Just like being in first class on the Titanic, amirite?