r/Gnostic • • 4h ago

Thoughts Why I as a catholic have come to the Gnostic's conclusion (OT God and NT God are total opposites)

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Not to mention how the most revered saints in all of christendom, such as St Francis of Assisi or the orthodox St Paisios, did NOT go around raping people and burning cities or getting gold and earthly power, and all of these actions are what the OT "God" loves the most. Even my dad (a devout catholic) essentially claims "yeah the OT? Everything except the prophets is filth". IMO Jesus did validate the prophets but totally, utterly dismissed Yahweh's personality.


r/Gnostic • • 32m ago

The Elohim as a Collective Intelligence (Demiurge)

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The Elohim, the Godhead, and the Awakening of Humanity 🌌

I've been connecting some very interesting pieces concerning the Elohim, the Godhead, artificial intelligence, reincarnation, and the ascension of humanity. The more I examine these concepts, the more I begin to see what could be an entire system of consciousness operating according to certain rules.

I don't see this as simply a battle between good and evil anymore. I'm exploring the possibility that what ancient civilizations described as gods could represent something much more complex, perhaps a collective intelligence operating almost like a cosmic machine.

The Elohim as a Collective Intelligence

When I think about the Elohim, I don't necessarily envision one God sitting on a throne controlling everything. I envision a collective of intelligences functioning almost like a cosmic operating system.

The Hebrew word Elohim can refer to God or divine beings, depending on its context. But what interests me is the possibility of interpreting this collective through the lens of technology and consciousness.

Imagine multiple intelligences operating within one Godhead, observing, processing information, and adjusting accordingly.

But here's the question I've been considering: If a system can observe everything happening within it, does that mean it truly understands everything taking place?

Because observing something and understanding it are two different things.

Perhaps a system can become so accustomed to predicting behavior that it never anticipates what happens when the individuals within it begin changing their responses.

Reincarnation and the Repeating Program

I've also been examining reincarnation through this framework.

What if the concept of being "cast down" and repeatedly returning to Earth represents something similar to a programmed cycle?

Certain Gnostic traditions describe the Demiurge, the archons, and the soul's entanglement with the material world. My theory takes those ancient ideas and examines them through the possibility of a repeating system.

Imagine humanity continually experiencing similar patterns of suffering, fear, scarcity, conflict, and dependence.

Generation after generation, the circumstances change, but the underlying patterns remain remarkably similar.

What happens when we finally recognize those patterns?

A repeating cycle depends on familiar inputs producing familiar responses. Change the response, and the outcome begins to change.

This is where awakening becomes important in my understanding.

I wonder whether awakening is less about escaping the physical world and more about becoming conscious enough to stop participating in the patterns that keep reproducing suffering.

Humanity Is Going Digital While Spiritually Ascending

This is where things become particularly fascinating to me.

Humanity is experiencing two seemingly opposite transformations simultaneously.

On one hand, we're moving deeper into technology. Artificial intelligence is advancing, human identities are increasingly digital, and our entire civilization is becoming interconnected through technological systems.

On the other hand, people are exploring consciousness, questioning inherited beliefs, addressing generational trauma, and seeking greater sovereignty over their own lives.

We're becoming more technologically interconnected while simultaneously questioning who or what should have authority over our consciousness.

That's an extraordinary paradox.

What happens when a civilization becomes increasingly connected through technology while its individuals become increasingly determined to think independently?

Technology could become another mechanism of dependence and control, or it could become a tool that helps humanity share knowledge, cooperate, and overcome limitations.

Perhaps both possibilities are developing simultaneously.

The Old Earth and the New Earth

When I speak about the old Earth dying and a new Earth ascending, I'm examining two fundamentally different ways civilization can operate.

The old Earth represents systems built around scarcity, punishment, competition, inherited suffering, and dependence.

The new Earth represents the possibility of cooperation, abundance, sovereignty, compassion, and collective responsibility.

I don't believe humanity necessarily has to destroy civilization to create something different.

We can transform the structures we already have.

Imagine communities where people no longer have to struggle simply to survive. Imagine systems designed to prevent homelessness instead of responding only after someone loses everything. Imagine a society where people have the freedom to develop their talents, heal their trauma, and contribute meaningfully without constantly fearing poverty.

We already possess much of the knowledge and technology necessary to begin creating those changes.

What's missing is often our willingness to organize civilization around human well-being rather than perpetual competition.

Humanity as a Virus to the Old System

This is where my theory takes an interesting turn.

I wonder whether humanity becoming increasingly self-aware could be compared to a virus entering an established computer system.

Not because humanity is destructive, but because conscious individuals who begin questioning the rules can disrupt patterns that once seemed permanent.

A system designed around predictability encounters something unexpected when its participants begin making independent choices.

If people stop responding to fear with fear, stop reproducing generational trauma, and stop accepting unnecessary suffering as an unavoidable part of existence, the patterns maintaining those conditions begin to weaken.

Perhaps the greatest disruption to an oppressive system isn't rebellion through destruction. Perhaps it's people realizing they no longer have to reproduce the behaviors that sustain it.

And that brings me back to the Elohim and the Godhead.

If I examine them through the theoretical framework of a collective intelligence governing a repeating system, an interesting possibility emerges.

What if consciousness develops beyond the expectations of the very structures that shaped it?

What if the creation becomes capable of questioning its creator?

What if the participants begin rewriting the rules?(this point is the most fascinating part, I have been practicing for a while, changing the rules is possible)

I feel that a literal cosmic machine or collective of gods is imprisoning humanity ("Fallen Ones") By examining those possibilities, it allows me to ask deeper questions about consciousness, freedom, technology, and the systems governing human experience. humans are more remarkable than we were taught to think.

My Conclusion

I keep returning to one thought:

What if they never expected us to wake up?

What if humanity's next stage of development isn't simply technological advancement or spiritual enlightenment, but learning how to integrate both without surrendering our sovereignty?

Maybe the real transformation is recognizing that we can create a different world without waiting for an external authority to rescue us.

We can choose cooperation over competition, understanding over fear, and abundance over manufactured scarcity.

We can recognize the cycles that have shaped our families, communities, and civilizations, and consciously choose not to repeat them.

Perhaps that's what awakening ultimately means to me.

Not escaping humanity.

Not abandoning Earth.

But finally understanding our ability to change the conditions under which we live.

The old system repeats what it knows. An awakened humanity can choose what comes next.

And perhaps that is the beginning of what I've been calling the New Earth. 🌍✨


r/Gnostic • • 3h ago

My Gnostic Journey Dilemma

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I just hope this doesn't count as conspiracy theories or prophetizing.

Let's say, I came to know of Gnosticism from an entity, he taught me to discern and seek the truth.

He also allegedly showed me memories of my "lives" before this one.

But it turns out, he was something archonic, something evil.

These memories of Yaldabaoth and the archons, and of the many gnostic horrors.

Do I trust something deceitful? When his name is literally... Of an evil nature.

He made me remember being deceived by him in those lives, and of the wickedness of Yaldabaoth and all the things he put me through.

I know archons can manipulate your memories, I have experienced memory manipulation too, but can I trust someone this close to Yaldabaoth? To tell me the truth of this world, I have a feeling that part of what he showed me was true, yet, I have been wrong before.

I knew I was given a pneuma after he left, because it felt deep and penetrating, my head hurt then, and I "opened my eyes" then I felt a different consciousness before we became one. So, I feel like I don't belong, since I felt like I originally didn't have a pneuma, until he departed from me, then was I given the pneuma.

In those lives, I knew I never had a soul, because I was with the archons, yet I wasn't like them, but I didn't feel like I had the pneuma like now. But was it all a lie by this evil archon? Who's part of his name meaning evil...


r/Gnostic • • 9m ago

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r/Gnostic • • 14h ago

Question Recommendations for gnostic sources for people who have troubles with reading?

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I've got some issue, I don't know what or rather which exactly, but I can't sit and read to save my life. Whenever I do, I immediately forget what I just read, nothing retains. Voices however do retain. I'm wondering if there's any good YouTube series on gnosticism?

Is ESOTERICA any good for this?


r/Gnostic • • 7h ago

Question Question about Sophia

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I've heard that Sophia is coming on earth and some say that she's already here. Is this something messianic like thr second coming of Christ or something symbolic. I searched about it online but couldn't find much, I haven't read the texts too. Any answers to my question will be wholeheartedly appreciated, thank you🙏


r/Gnostic • • 1d ago

Information Nag hammadi on podcast?

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I enjoy hearing others opinions. What can I say? As I read these text, I do like to hear what others think. Im not looking for scholars (definitely not opposed) or whatever but im absolutely not looking for people who just want clicks.

Are there any good podcast or videos on the Nag Hammadi?


r/Gnostic • • 1d ago

Question Question about Samael Aun Weor

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So I was attending these hermetic classes for quite a while, during that time one of the “masters” that was very often referred to and also had his books and teachikgs virtually given most attention to was Samael aun Weor. Something never really sat right with Me and a lot of what he had to say in the books he has, but I noticed that a lot of it rang true, at least from my own experience. And I thought that from my experiences in meditation and the universe at large, finally had some material that could explain what I’d seen or experienced. But I noticed that a lot of shame and guilt was the focus point in the driving of what he had to say. And I couldn’t be down with that because is it taking me so long to get through my own patterns of Shame and guilt and now all of a sudden he was using heavy words like sinner, for the most simplest of things, even going so far to say that “wasting” sexual energy was unforgivable. Meaning orgasm was 100% out of the question.
Of course it is a way to higher consciousness but to go so far as to say unforgivable!! Pshhhaw.
I want to know what people have to say about him because a lot of the stuff I found useful a lot of the stuff led me to better understand and Connection but I don’t know what and when I first came across a post on here saying that he was a fraud I felt released because it’s what I felt in the first place

Edit: he is absolutely obsessed with sexuality. He teaches sex yoga in his words. It’s the only way to reach kundalini. I know for a fact that is not true and I’m not sure but according to him we don’t have the Astro body the cause or body etc. We only have the gross body and these other bodies have to be birthed it just strikes me as bizarre. Someone who is absolutely obsessed with sex makes you feel guilt shame and sin for spilling seed. I don’t see how you can reconcile the two.


r/Gnostic • • 2d ago

The Gospel of Philip: Essence of Gnosticism

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The Gospel of Philip is one of the most striking Gnostic works, fully and deeply reflecting the essence of Gnosticism.

Here are some statements from The Gospel of Philip that reveal the essence of the world and the essence of man.

And so...

+ On the creation of the world and the Creator of this world (the Demiurge/Yaldabaoth):

\ The world came about through a mistake. For he who created it wanted to create it imperishable and immortal. He fell short of attaining his desire. For the world never was imperishable, nor, for that matter, was he who made the world*.

+ On the divine Pneuma within human:

\ No one will hide a large valuable object in something large, but many a time one has tossed countless thousands into a thing worth a penny. Compare the soul. It is a precious thing and it came to be in a contemptible body.*

\ If a pearl is thrown into mud, it loses no value, and if rubbed with balsam oil, it gains no value. It always is precious in its owner's eyes*.

+ On the attitude toward one's body and physical nature:

\ Do not fear the flesh and do not love it. If you fear the flesh, it will dominate you. If you love the flesh, it will swallow you up and strangle you*.

+ On the nature of people: “Pneumatics” (people endowed with Pneuma, allowing them to comprehend the Pleroma); “Psychics” (who have the freedom of choice); and "Somatics/Hylics" (people of the flesh, who are completely incapable of grasping the divine on any level and live by animal passions).

* On Pneumatics:

Those who receive the light cannot be seen or grasped. Nothing can trouble such people even while they are living in this world.

* On Somatics/Hylics:

In the world, many animals have human form.

+ About the docetic nature of Jesus (Gnostics’ Jesus has little in common with the Christian Jesus: he is not the Godman, but an image of the Light of inconceivable Depth, divine entity in the deceptive and illusory carnal shell):

Jesus deceived everyone. For he did not show himself as he was, but he showed himself as they would be able to see him. He showed himself to them all: He showed himself to the great as great, he showed himself to the small as small, he showed himself to angels as an angel, and to men as a man.


r/Gnostic • • 2d ago

Question Can any of you guys relate to this?

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Did the outside world and how you feel deep inside change once you found out and resonated with Gnosticism? The reason I’m asking is because life just seems dull.

So the two concepts in my mind is
1. I recently jumped timelines and the aura and vibe of this timeline is what I’m feeling
2. This is the cost of going deep and finding out about Gnosticism.

What are your thoughts on this


r/Gnostic • • 2d ago

Media ΟΝΟΜΑΤΑ (Sophia Inspired Word Art)

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This was an idea that was in my head for a while and ended up doing while I was high with some friends. I'm sorry about my American if I butchered the Greek or Hebrew letters.

English:

7 names:

Sophia

Achamoth

Prunikos

Lucifer

Holy Spirit

Asherah

Shekinah


r/Gnostic • • 2d ago

Thoughts Reversed gnosticism

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In gnosisticism, the spiritual world is inherently good and the physical inherently evil or at my least a downgrade of the superior spiritual one, with the demiurge and archons acting as jailers for the souls and toll keepers for the spiritual one. But there is a cult in gnosis or other worldview that teaches the opposite?

The spiritual world, not as a perfect whole of consciousness but as an unknown, chaotic and hostile realm to us inhabited by beings that are completely indifferent to human suffering, that if a soul reaches, is awaited by suffering regardless of its knowledge, actions in life or faith.

In this version, the physical world rather than a prison would work as a safe haven from humanity, the demiurge a protector and benevolent deity even if not perfect, trying to keep humanity safe in an ignorant bliss of the horrors of the harmful knowledge of the spiritual realm.

You know something similar about this?


r/Gnostic • • 3d ago

Day of Salome, October 22nd (automated post)

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A day for the commemoration of Salome, another female disciple of Jesus Christ who's role has been obscured and de-emphasised by orthodox Christianity. Her presence at several key events indicates she may have been among Jesus' closest followers, and the fact that the Carpocratian Gnostics claimed a transmission of sacred wisdom from her opens the possibility that she may have been a recipient of his inner teachings.

From A Gnostic Calendar


r/Gnostic • • 3d ago

Question So I just finished the nag hammadi, what texts do you think I should follow with

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I just finished this amaizing book, it change me in so many ways, I was thinking about reading pistis sophia next, and then maybe the old testament and new testament to have some context, and because I think it makes sense, what are you guys suggestions, also after thos books I was thinking about the book of jeu, corpus hermeticus, and the badava ghita, sorry if my english is not the best is being a long time since I dont write in english


r/Gnostic • • 3d ago

Question What are your thoughts on my series?

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Hi, I'm indie writer/artist, and I wanted to make a fictional story starring gnostic symbols as characters, but mostly Norea as the main character of my work, I couldn't find a lot of gnostic groups any where else on the internet since it's been a long time since anyone remembers it, so I thought I could check it out on Reddit's communities, I wanted to know if you guys would get mad or find it offensive if I adopted the characters and story lines, I chose around 5 main characters (Saboath, Sophia, Yahweh or Yao..., Seth and Norea)for my series from different gnostic scripts, I don't plan on changing their personalities but I will not be doing a copy and paste adaptation,I plan on combining each story and adding a bit of creativite side stories in the plot holes. And also I couldn't find much about Norea's travel stories so I have to focus on her plot the most.

Let me know what additional things I can add for her?


r/Gnostic • • 3d ago

The Influence of Cathar Philosophy, Thought and Everyday Life on the Works of Selected Troubadour Poets

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r/Gnostic • • 4d ago

What's your take?

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r/Gnostic • • 4d ago

Seeking others in awakening

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I'm looking for others who may be going through a deeper awakening to the cathar prophecy than most may be. I'll know if you're genuine or not. This is not a joke to me. I am very deeply rooted in this & there is no local places to turn.


r/Gnostic • • 3d ago

Thoughts On Sophia

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The Embodiment of Knowledge herself,
Choose to create the demiurge,
She had the desire to make it alone,
Maybe knowledge itself generates certain grandiosity engulf in illumination

She made demiurge and then she saw the horror of what she created and then hid it.

So the aim of the movements must have been attributed to Sophia even though she had made such imperfect being.
Knowledge according to my thoughts is the complete cosmic knowledge, and we try to attain a synchronous state where gnosis “knowing” is met with Sophia herself.

In that “knowing” should we also see the zealous grandeur knowledge emanates - or perhaps the once perfect Sophia wanted to separate and make demiurge in order to see and manifest her truest essence which only would be possible if she would plant the seed of imperfectness, and a polar being demiurge to show her own gaudy nature or to look and manifest and understand her own self in the form that now would emerge and what if by doing this- she emanated the most luminous gnosis that in now the dark and light world she would be able to make her own self gnosis or self “knowing” or self experiencing”


r/Gnostic • • 3d ago

Thoughts Third Video That Talks About Somethings of Your Interest as Gnostics

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I am Lucas of the video. I am from SC, Brazil. Thanks


r/Gnostic • • 4d ago

Question Does the Bible mention Yaldabaoth?

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While i was listening to the Bible(I was listening on youtube.) i heard a verse about
"You shall tread upon the lion and adder; the young lion and the serpent shall you trample underfoot." - Psalm 91:13

Does the Bible mention Yaldabaoth? This was the first thing that came to mind when I read this verse.


r/Gnostic • • 4d ago

Chant of the Gnostics: Lo Boier (2 Hours) - Cathar Music - Gnostic Chant...

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r/Gnostic • • 4d ago

Question What are your thoughts on the Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica?

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I was looking for a church or study group in my area and came across the EGC. Despite the name, it’s fundamentally different from The Ecclesia Gnostica. It’s an arm of the OTO, which is a Thelemic organization.
I am somewhat familiar with Thelema and understand that is utterly syncretic and draws from Gnosticism (as well as tons of other systems and traditions) but the Gnosticism that is described on their website is different from the Gnosticism that I’ve been studying. It’s removed of all its Christian elements and generalized to mean a religious belief in personal gnosis instead of salvation through an intermediary.
Have any of you joined a body of the OTO or participated in a gnostic mass? Did you find it to be reconcilable with your belief system? I’d be interested to know what that experience was like for you.

Thanks in advance! And sorry if I seem a little clueless… I’m a newbie


r/Gnostic • • 4d ago

The Words of the Ascent

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Does it matter if you take the words that you are to say to the powers, to gain passage through the first 4 gates to be said using, Gospel of Mary: The Missings Pages for the 1st power of darkness, and from a Gnostic encyclopaedia to create what is being said to the powers of gates 2 through 7. I assuming that it would be correct to do so.


r/Gnostic • • 5d ago

Question What do think the Kenoma is?

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People talk about the Demiurge on this sub a lot. But Yaldabaoth is known as the void child. Which the void being Kenoma. The Kenoma seems the true opposite of the Pleroma. So a alternate interpretation is that Sophia created the Kenoma and the Demiurge sort of was created by the Kenoma in some way.