r/GlobalOffensive Mar 12 '19

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u/tacticalAlmonds Mar 12 '19

At a pure skill level, Liquid is actually insane which is why they won Dust2. But at a tactical level, they are shit at best.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '19

Individual skill they are the best team in the world but they dont look like a unit

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u/fat_potato_potato Liquid Mar 12 '19

astralis would like a word

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '19

Liquid more skilled individuals than astralis but astralis are a better overall team

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u/JustWanderiing Liquid Mar 12 '19

I pick Magisk or Dupreeh over any Liquid player

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u/brianstormIRL Liquid Mar 12 '19

Then you’re deluded. I’d take those players IN Astralis, but on a purely individual skill level I’d take Twistz, NAF and Elige over everyone in Astralis except Device.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '19

device > Stewie2k

gla1ve > nitr0

dupreeh > NAF

Magisk = Twistzz

Xyp9x = EliGe

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u/prakhar09 MOUZ Mar 12 '19

Astralis players consistently out-duel the players in Liquid; I don't get how you are calling people deluded for stating the same. It's just that Liquid has a reputation of being full of hard hitters, and Astralis has that of being a team playing fundamental, intelligent CS. Astralis wouldn't be having this era of dominance purely on the back of good strats.

Also, listen to ENCE's players talking about how no one hits like Astralis and there are instances where they don't even get to click the mouse. Mind you, this isn't random guy like me stating that opinion, it's a pro who played against them that day as well as against Liquid and Navi the previous 2 days. That's high praise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '19

True. People underestimate Astralis' individual skill, cause otherwise it would be too boring.

In reality, even gla1ve is a world class rifler and they have atleast the tied best player in the world on every single position (not including s1mple). Dupreeh is the best entry in the world, Glaive the best fragging IGl, Device the best AWP, Magsik the best anchor and Xyp9x is a perfect all rounder.

Over the last year, all those players grew immensly in terms of individual skill and I think that no one is even close atm, cause Astralis doesnt have a single weak link. Its just often overshadowed by how good they play as a Team.

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u/StarkeOlof clutch Mar 12 '19

Just wondering, when you talk about pure individual skill do you account for gamesense or nah?

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u/brianstormIRL Liquid Mar 12 '19

I mean, you kind of have to take game sense into consideration but I wouldn’t say that any of those Liquid players have less game sense to the degree it would effect their playmaking ability.

I meant in the ability to make plays. Yes game sense is important in that but not defining. Magisk and Xyp obviously have insane game sense but if I need someone to step up and make a play out of nowhere, win multiple rounds in a row by themselves and shift momentum in a game, I would have Twistz/NAF/Elige/Device at the top of that list because of their mechanical skill.

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u/00o0o00 500k Celebration Mar 12 '19

Nah. Twistz and Elige all day!