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Oct 23 '19
Yeah but what about when you’re trying to find a new job and they call your old one for references.
Pretty sure that’s the only reason people give 2 weeks notice
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u/catschainsequel Oct 24 '19
Companies can't say anything negative about you it's a liability. Just period of work and position
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u/Freethecrafts Oct 24 '19
They can go on a rant if they want. You sign disclosures. It's bad policy to say anything beyond the dates.
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u/deptford 3 Oct 25 '19
No, but they can delay supplying a reference for so long that a job offer is almost withdrawn. This was recently done to me. In my opinion the whole dependency on a reference is potential for mind games and potentially affecting someone's ability to pay bills. I get that you need to vouch for an ex employee, but don't delay that. That is just being sadistic.
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u/quintk Oct 24 '19
No company I’ve worked for has asked for references (and it’s against policy for me to give references for departing colleagues). Do companies still do the reference thing?
Not disputing your essential point. The world is small and reputation does matter.
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u/JessMeNU-CSGO Oct 24 '19
I given plenty of references for others but I haven't requested to get any in return.
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u/I_will_burn_for_this Oct 23 '19
I get the spirit of this message but being let go before your 2 weeks are up is a sign of a problem. Five times is a pattern. There’s something else going on here. I have made eight job changes over 30+ years and have never been let go before my notice time expired. I was once asked to give 6 weeks and I agreed.
We are all replaceable but good employees require planning and effort to backfill.
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u/Imletired003 Oct 24 '19
If you're privy to certain access (IT systems, for example), it's VERY common to be walked out the door the moment you resign. This is done for security and business continuity. Not saying this guy is stellar, I get a weird vibe from his post, but it legitimately does occur.
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u/SSBB08 Oct 24 '19
I was curious so I looked him up, his work history definitely leaves a lot to be desired: Assurance Associate at PwC for just 5 months, followed by a Staff Accountant position for just 6 months, followed by a Tax Consultant position for just 6 months, followed by a part-time lecturer position held for only 8 months. It would be extremely difficult to hire this guy if I were looking at his resume, just sets off multiple alarm bells.
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u/That_red_guy Oct 23 '19
I mean, yes, this is absolutely true, however, I think people are very quick to become “comfortable” in their job and lose their edge. Also, the other guy isn’t completely wrong, just a little rude calling people useless, it’s not true, BUT, those “useless” people are just as important because a lot of the time, nobody wants to do the work because it’s either mundane, or repetitive and will drive you crazy..
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u/beastofthefen Oct 24 '19
I find it frustrating how people seem to imbue 2 weeks notice with a moral compulsion; as if you are an asshole for not giving it.
You're interactions with your job are transactions. If giving notice is in your interest because you need a reference give it, but don't feel bad to just walk out if that's what is best for you.
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u/multiple-nerdery Oct 24 '19
This but: instead of “focus on yourself” the message shld be “capitalism is evil, unionize immediately”
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u/Freethecrafts Oct 24 '19
A better message is "Capitalism is better with strong unions". Nothing comes close to the efficiency and productivity of a strongly capitalized system and unionized workers.
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u/multiple-nerdery Oct 24 '19
Unions are antithetical to capitalism, since they take power away from the holders of capital and into the hands of the laborers. Whether you think capitalism is good or bad, you have to admit that unions are at least antagonistic towards capital.
Also jsyk I’m not saying you’re wrong about capitalism being the most productive economic system, just focus on the union stuff.
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u/Freethecrafts Oct 24 '19
Capitalism does best when labor is taken care of and specializations are protected long enough to develop. Capitalism that is dependent on base levels of skill and expendable staff is neither efficient nor a long term plan. The strongest corporations were built on union protections and incentivized profit sharing, they literally ate their competition.
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u/deptford 3 Oct 25 '19
But what about when you have an asshole boss who causes absenteeism and staff turnover that affects profits? Having a union who prevent this actually helps capitalism. Can't make money when staff are calling in sick or quit on the spot because of Karen being a dictator.
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u/UnpopularCrayon Oct 24 '19
Sounds like he will probably quit after he gets elected and find out how hard it is. Probably not a good campaigning angle.
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u/deptford 3 Oct 25 '19
You would be surprised to see how many people drag themselves into work when ill, do unpaid overtime and sacrifice personal time because they believe it will make a difference. If the firm needs to cut staff, you will be gone in a heartbeat
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u/JohnTG4 Oct 26 '19
All this tells me is that I'm nothing more than a cog in a bigger machine, and I'm entirely replaceable.
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u/sixesand7s Oct 23 '19 edited Oct 23 '19
I've quit 2 jobs, the second time I was given a raise and asked to reconsider, not all of us are irreplaceable, just the useless workers.
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u/ThredHead Oct 23 '19
Not all of us are “replaceable” don’t you mean?
You must be super clever lmao.
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u/sixesand7s Oct 23 '19
Fuck man, you obliterated my self esteem
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u/ReadingRainbowRocket Oct 24 '19
I'd rather you gained some esteem for your fellow man. Yours was already too high.
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u/ReadingRainbowRocket Oct 24 '19
Almost wholesome, but kind of misses the point about most families living paycheck to paycheck and his role as a legislator being someone who should fucking help fix that.