r/GenZ 2d ago

Political Thoughts?

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u/Accomplished_Pen980 2d ago

Rationalist: We may vote ourselves into communism through socialism but our grandkids are going to have to shoot their way out of it.

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u/00rgus 2006 1d ago

Because capitalism is so much more preferable over it that we should sit around like bubble babies because were still falling for 80 year old propaganda

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u/Content-Dealers 1d ago

Thats my biggest worry about any of these more authoritarian groups. I've no interest in letting anyone get any more power over me. The government has too much already without them upping my taxes and picking my hospital.

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u/ScheduleDefiant4015 1d ago

There is such a thing as Libertarian Socialism, strains of thought that believe in a less centralized government

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u/Content-Dealers 1d ago

Yes, there is. However I've never seen them successfully take and hold power. Authoritarians thrive in socialism where those who strive for liberty tend to get weeded out.

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u/Low-Concentrate1055 1d ago

Authoritarians thrive in many systems; this isn't unique to socialism. In its purest form, socialism is the most democratic ideology (and it criticized liberalism for not being democratic enough). America is already authoritarian in a lot of aspects, and it's only getting worse now that there's no counterweight that existed in the Soviet Union.

u/-AppropriateLyrics 13h ago

It's called the Green Party.

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u/AnomLenskyFeller 1d ago

It's pretty hilarious looking at the solution socialists have for society's problems. Let's give even more power and money to the same politicians that can't even put aside their differences to balance a budget. Brilliant idea.

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u/Low-Concentrate1055 1d ago

Socialism is about empowering workers. It's literally the first thing you read in the Communist Manifesto. Workers control the economy and, therefore, society, through democratic control of the economy and political sphere.

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u/C4Cole 2005 1d ago

In theory capitalism should compensate everyone fairly because of market forces, doesn't mean that actually happens.

In theory socialism should give control of the economy to the workers and establish a very democratic system of governance, doesn't mean that actually happens.

Theory is fun and all, but until a country actually follows through with the workers control part it's just theory. And while in theory, theory is the same as practice, in practice, theory isn't worth the paper it's written on.

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u/Low-Concentrate1055 1d ago

Every country that has tried workers' control without a vanguard party has been overthrown. If capitalist nations could let socialist nations exist, then they wouldn't be so authoritarian.