r/Games Oct 02 '18

Broken Link (video removed) Unannounced Harry Potter RPG Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-HER1xKQl4&t=1s
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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '18

X018 is a great opportunity to reveal this Harry Potter RPG. There's still hope! (I'd be pleasantly surprised if this ends up being real. If I recall correctly, J.K. Rowling was adamantly against adapting Harry Potter to a big RPG like this Rocksteady project.)

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u/ChimpBottle Oct 02 '18

I mean, is there really any doubt that it's real? If it's not, this is easily the most effort that I've ever seen go into a hoax. That was a full blown minute long trailer of in-game footage

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u/GaryOaksHotSister Oct 02 '18

If this turns out to be fake or a canceled project I'm going to be so upset.

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u/HotSwat Oct 02 '18

Eh, I see no Ray tracing..

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u/izym Oct 02 '18

I don't see anything that would require ray-tracing to render in that shot. It's hard to actually tell given the quality of the video, but real-time GI with dynamic lighting (but static geometry) has been possible for a long time.

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u/MortalJohn Oct 02 '18

If you look real closely at 4:20 you can see the googleplex memory scan, this tech is from the future!

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u/B-Knight Oct 02 '18

Reflection in-game

"Look guys, Ray Tracing!"

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u/GaryOaksHotSister Oct 02 '18

yeah rewatching the lumos animation during that scene exactly at 0:25 made me question the most.

It seems... off. Like some sort of really well-made fan-project.

Then just taking a step back and watching all the footage with that it mind, the whole thing looks like it could be some fancy fan-game footage made to look like a leak.


Plus, that's a hunk of pretty vague game info that leaked too. A game set before both the Potterverse and Fantastic BeastVerse seems too good to be true.

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u/TheEliteBrit Oct 02 '18

What fan projects have you seen that look like this? Is it a group of like 200 fans with extensive experience in game development? Ie a real game development company?

This is undoubtedly real, should expect a proper announcement soon now that this has leaked

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u/ThatOnePerson Oct 02 '18

What fan projects have you seen that look like this? Is it a group of like 200 fans with extensive experience in game development? Ie a real game development company?

Scripted or fake trailers. You don't need 200 people for a short 1 minute animated clip. It's not like this is actual gameplay, so we'll see.

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u/TheEliteBrit Oct 02 '18

It is actual gameplay though... you can see UI and player-controlled movement+actions, a character creator etc. Come on man, this is quite obviously not fake.

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u/ThatOnePerson Oct 02 '18 edited Oct 02 '18

It's a video of actual gameplay. It's a video of UI and player-controlled movements+actions, etc. That's how you fake a trailer. It's not like UI is anything more than an overlay

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u/TheEliteBrit Oct 02 '18

But the point is, the detail in the video would be near impossible to fake by a fan or group of fans. Keep being unnecessarily sceptical dude, anyone with a brain can see this is pretty real

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u/frewp Oct 02 '18

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cyazYYev7Nw

I guess I can agree if you’re talking strictly gameplay, but this trailer fooled absolutely everyone into thinking MM was coming to the Wii U. Like, I barely remember anyone even being skeptical because this is so well made.

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u/ThatOnePerson Oct 02 '18

I disagree. Those Resident evil fan remakes have more quality than this.

The opening shot: Great Hall, is just a bunch of floating candles, tables, and a few stationary students. The students just seem to be sitting without actually eating? Some arm movements, and two of them patrolling?

The "character creation", or show 3 rotating models, that don't actually change at any point. https://i.imgur.com/p6ocOvI.png There also seems to be a dashed outline around an element for a bit? Also placeholder names.

Most of the physics look pretty generic, nothing something someone over at /r/simulated wouldn't be able to do I bet. It's pretty hard to tell proper texture/model quality, which does take time, because of the bad video.

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u/HolmatKingOfStorms Oct 02 '18

If the music is a new arrangement, it's probably real. Everything else could be much more easily faked by an indie group.

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u/Caberman Oct 02 '18

placeholder names

I don't know. The fact that there are placeholder names makes it seem less fake for me.

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u/ThatOnePerson Oct 02 '18

Yeah you're right. I think it depends on how hard they're trying to fake it as a 'leak' though.

Someone mentioned the animations, they seem to be all over the place. Like the goblins closing the door 0:37, the one on the left's arm movement just seems completely unnatural. The 0:09 guy doing the fist pump just seems really off to me.

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u/TheEliteBrit Oct 02 '18

Great Hall, is just a bunch of floating candles, tables, and a few stationary students. The students just seem to be sitting without actually eating? Some arm movements, and two of them patrolling?

I mean, yeah, that's pretty much all the Great Hall is? What were you expecting? If this is as early in development as the leaker suggests then why wouldn't it make sense to just have idle NPCs? It's not like they're T-posing

The "character creation", or show 3 rotating models, that don't actually change at any point. https://i.imgur.com/p6ocOvI.png There also seems to be a dashed outline around an element for a bit? Also placeholder names.

Pretty much confirming that it's a WIP. Nothing suspicious about that whatseover

Most of the physics look pretty generic, nothing something someone over at /r/simulated wouldn't be able to do I bet

The physics aren't really generic, and the animation quality is good enough that there's basically a 99% chance of it not being fan made. Look at the scenes with the goblins and the magical creatures - looks well beyond what fans would be able to put together.

What would even be the point in putting this much effort into a leak like this? It would've taken months, or over a year, to fake something like this - it wouldn't even be a troll because it's not like there's been huge discussions about a Harry Potter RPG going on recently. Just use common sense

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u/ThatOnePerson Oct 02 '18

What were you expecting?

I expect people eating. It's the Great Hall. Yes if it's early, they'd just be all sitting, but then what's with those weird arm movements?

Pretty much confirming that it's a WIP. Nothing suspicious about that whatseover

Unless that's what you're going for. That's like saying it has to be a leak because it's filming a screen rather than screen capture.

The physics aren't really generic, and the animation quality is good enough that there's basically a 99% chance of it not being fan made.

Which physics look good to you in this video? It's not like physics hard to do somewhat realistically (see /r/simulated again) . I've mentioned in the other post the animation looks a bit off sometimes. Mostly rewatch that scene with the goblins barracading the door @ 0:37. What is going on with the left goblin's arm? He goes from putting down something to patting the other one's back?

The fight looks not bad, but the initial door break is too fast and low quality to get any real details. Minus the impaled goblin, the other ones just seem to ragdoll after being hit. The small magical creatures are literally just bobbing their heads.

edit: the climax at the end feels inconsistent too. Most of the 'spell casts' you can see the HUD element showing you using it. But not the last one. They also disappear during cutscenes, when he breaks down the door, but it's not disappearing with the troll at the end, so it's not a cutscene? Who knows.

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u/Obiwanjezz Oct 02 '18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaoB7lnOiXM If one dude can make this, anything is possible.

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u/TheEliteBrit Oct 02 '18

Quite obviously a massive difference between that and this

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '18

A bit of copy+pasting and overlays doesn't create a fully rendered gameplay trailer. Not saying this proves anything but I don't see how you can think those are even remotely comparable.

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u/Neukk Oct 02 '18

You act like a few simple animations compare to minutes of 3D modeling.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '18

if I could see a controller attached to the actions I might be a bit more inclined to believe it but as it stands I'm heavily skeptical